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I brought the discussion from the QSC thread here, regarding the USPS and CBP "implementing" procedures to "collect" additional/increased "duties/tariff's."

I've found reporting verifying what you're saying @Ghoul. But, havn't found the actual "procedures" USPS & CBP plan on utilizing. I posted a link to that after the quotes below...

Ghoul said:
It's the same template shoving politics into here lately. The same lines, the same "recruiting" behavior, trying to harness the frustration of people unable to access cheap gear to "convert" them to the ideology of the poster.

The end of De Minimus for China and all the problems it caused for acquiring AAS, Sched III drugs, were long coming and probably the most bi-partisan issue in a decade.

When I warned people they should consider "stocking up" last August it wasn't dependent on who got elected.

And De minimus is still over for China btw, there's been no "flip flop".

De minimus is an exemption from customs scrutiny and duty.

Duties aren't being imposed, but the rest, full customs documentation is required,

This documentation is how customs primarily determines which packs are suspicious and which aren't.

The post office said, unlike the freight companies that were prepared, they couldn't comply, unable to provide that additional data to CBP because they weren't getting it from China Post(not the way UGL vendors ship anyway).

So a pause was imposed until they complied. Less then 24 hours later they found a way to supply the required data to CBP and packs were allowed to flow. That's not "chaos", it's imposing consequences for failing to comply with the law, and it fixed that problem in one day. That's success, not a "circus".

But I can understand people who admire the efficiency of the DMV or believe the USPS is a great organization filled with customer service oriented employees could be disturbed by such quick action.
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bigMoJo said:
Just want to check if you have the "report" on USPS providing data to CBP.

What I understood is that Trump reinstated the De Minimus exemption for packages from China...

"Following President Trump’s removal of the de minimis exemption earlier this week, on Friday, February 7, 2025, President Trump issued an amendment to his original Executive Order and temporarily reinstated the exemption until “notification by the Secretary of Commerce to the President that adequate systems are in place to fully and expediently process and collect tariff revenue for all Chinese products.”

www.internationaltradeinsights.com

Customs Confirms Scope of China IEEPA Tariffs and Removes, Then Reinstates, De Minimis Exemption for Most Low-Value Entries

Following President Trump’s removal of the de minimis exemption earlier this week, on Friday, February 7, 2025, President Trump issued an amendment to his
www.internationaltradeinsights.com www.internationaltradeinsights.com
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NOTE: This report also covers the EU responding to "De Minimus" type exemptions to their countries as well.

www.bbc.com

Trump tariffs: US Postal Service resumes deliveries from China

The company said it is working with customs after Donald Trump closed a tax loophole on low-value parcels.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
 
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bigMoJo said:
I brought the discussion from the QSC thread here, regarding the USPS and CBP "implementing" procedures to "collect" additional/increased "duties/tariff's."

I've found reporting verifying what you're saying @Ghoul. But, havn't found the actual "procedures" USPS & CBP plan on utilizing. I posted a link to that after the quotes below...





NOTE: This report also covers the EU responding to "De Minimus" type exemptions to their countries as well.

www.bbc.com

Trump tariffs: US Postal Service resumes deliveries from China

The company said it is working with customs after Donald Trump closed a tax loophole on low-value parcels.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
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The additional customs data required from shippers of small packs was proposed over a year ago, and CBP even recruited Chinese companies to start providing it in advance of the expected changes to the law via a program called the Section 321 data pilot.

Many of the big shippers of small packs volunteered to do this in advance, so when the inevitable day came, they'd be prepared and their shipments wouldn't be delayed while they tried to implement the new requirements. So of course companies like Shein did this, to avoid disruptions to their business, but USPS (which can be viewed as another company as far as how their packages are dealt with by customs) did not, until they were forced to:

CBP Expands 321 Data Pilot Participation

Securing America's Borders
www.cbp.gov

 
bigMoJo said:
I brought the discussion from the QSC thread here, regarding the USPS and CBP "implementing" procedures to "collect" additional/increased "duties/tariff's."

I've found reporting verifying what you're saying @Ghoul. But, havn't found the actual "procedures" USPS & CBP plan on utilizing. I posted a link to that after the quotes below...





NOTE: This report also covers the EU responding to "De Minimus" type exemptions to their countries as well.

www.bbc.com

Trump tariffs: US Postal Service resumes deliveries from China

The company said it is working with customs after Donald Trump closed a tax loophole on low-value parcels.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
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So basically now no one is going to be selling AAS or peptides from china?
 
JuiceStick said:
Indian PCT vendors don't ship from India. Nothing prevents Chinese UGLs from doing the same.
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We'll see how willing other countries are to be a conduit for China's controlled drug exports. Z sleep meds and Steroids aren't permitted to be sent via the middle eastern country the PCT vendors use, so it's not "anything goes".
 
Ghoul said:
And now it's Europe's turn:

www.stattimes.com

EU follows US, to modify norms for de minimis imports

Around 4.6 billion low-value consignments (worth €150 or less) entered the EU market in 2024 – 12 million parcels daily.
www.stattimes.com www.stattimes.com
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Fuck me! But knowing the EU they will do a shit job xD

They don't have the money to check all those parcels either especially because USA is one country Europe is multiple countries.
 
Sampei said:
Fuck me! But knowing the EU they will do a shit job xD

They don't have the money to check all those parcels either especially because USA is one country Europe is multiple countries.
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Packs aren't all on some giant assembly line. They're chosen for inspection before even arriving in the country of destination. The carrier is instructed to bring those to the customs facility. The rest are cleared and never physically go to customs.

99% of the checking is done electronically.

That's why the expanded data requirements are the key. (3x as much info).

That's how they choose what to pull aside.

Temu, Shein as the shipper? No need to check regularly, just random spot checks. They will never risk their "trust" level by allowing contraband to be sent in their name.

Same for any other company that values their ability to easily move goods.

But a "new" shipper? Those packs will be inspected much more frequently, Shipping to a recipient who's had previous contraband found? Another red flag resulting in that pack being selected. Anything found now flags the shipper as a suspect, making it easy to pull aside everything they send.

Fining the shipping companies also "focuses" their efforts on enforcing the "Know your customer" element of all this. Those companies must certify they verified the identity of the shipper.

If this isn't as effective as I think it will be, we should see oils and raws landing from China in the US regularly again. That's yet to happen.
 
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The Dow fell 500+ points so far today on news from Walmart taking a hit from Chinese trade-war tariff's.

Big "Deal-Maker" T already pissed his pants yesterday, saying a "deal" was possible with China... what happened? They havn't talked?

This is just the impact on the stock market from one company... imagine when more start reporting impacts from tariff's.

Everyone has already "stocked-up" on gear anticipating a shortage. Now, go ahead and "stock-down" on your stocks if Bid D's trade war is going to go on any further.

 
I've had three packs from India in the past few months no problem. Sailed right on through customs. One had Modafinil and Armodafinil in it, as well. The other stuff was old man stuff and of little interest to anyone. It seems like sleeping pills like the Lunesta generics are getting confiscated, though.
 
BigPapa2600 said:
Anyone have a siezed package since all this JFK horse shit? I’ve just noticed customs is a little slower as of late so far
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It's always taken 3-5 months to get an FDA letter for me. Surprised his came so quickly.

Jeffholio5

MESO-Rx Sponsor Post in thread 'PCT 24X7 "1 stop shop for all day healthcare"'

Just an update one of my packs from January were seized and I received a love letter from the FDA today so that’s fun. There are already reships in the works so hopefully I’ll end up receiving everything but yeah just an fyi for those buying right now.
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Still, things are much better than before the switch to UAE. Last year was a nightmare for packs from India.
 
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