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[malomkarom]

Yep. Super desensitised. Over 2 vials of 36 iu a day from QSC.

HOLLY FUCK
How many decades of GH does that?

 

[Trenbolonetax]

Yep. Super desensitised. Over 2 vials of 36 iu a day from QSC.

Are you also desensitized to the insulin resistance from GH?

 

[Wrangel7]

Well, I grew like crazy (including hands, feet and probably nose but not as much — mainly hands from what friends have noticed, although I'm not sure how much was water retention) for a while, and my HRV dropped, and RHR increased as expected. Then HRV & RHR stopped moving negatively and started recovering when it dumped sub 20ms. Then progress kinda slowed. I tested around this time. It's not as if my IGF-1 levels are natty; just not "worthy" of the dosages used.

Regarding injection frequency, I was aiming for every 4-5 hours, excluding sleep/work. More or less even doses other than after training with a slightly increased dose.

The frequency was to maximise lipolysis benefit to gain more aggressively; however, in hindsight, this was not the best decision.

Surprisingly, I'm not insulin resistant. Just over 4 mmol/l blood glucose level about 2 hours postprandial. HbA1c of just over 39 mmol/mol. No exogenous insulin use. No metformin (tried it but stopped it).

what effects did you have with 90 units? how did you divide them?

it seems that your body cannot recognize the external hormone and I discarded it

Are you also desensitized to the insulin resistance from GH?

 

[Wrangel7]

HOLLY FUCK
How many decades of GH does that?

Less than one if you're sufficiently crazy/desperate/stupid.

 

[nullandvoid]

Well, I grew like crazy (including hands, feet and probably nose but not as much — mainly hands from what friends have noticed, although I'm not sure how much was water retention) for a while, and my HRV dropped, and RHR increased as expected. Then HRV & RHR stopped moving negatively and started recovering when it dumped sub 20ms. Then progress kinda slowed. I tested around this time. It's not as if my IGF-1 levels are natty; just not "worthy" of the dosages used.

Regarding injection frequency, I was aiming for every 4-5 hours, excluding sleep/work. More or less even doses other than after training with a slightly increased dose.

The frequency was to maximise lipolysis benefit to gain more aggressively; however, in hindsight, this was not the best decision.

Surprisingly, I'm not insulin resistant. Just over 4 mmol/l blood glucose level about 2 hours postprandial. HbA1c of just over 39 mmol/mol. No exogenous insulin use. No metformin (tried it but stopped it).

I had this, too, unfortunately, particularly in wrists, which created a permanent tightness. Sometimes I'll twist my hands a certain way, and they'll kind of catch and hurt a bit. Feet also grew. I was getting pissed with the brand of shoes I buy and kept sending them back because they were too tight thinking they were manufactured poorly. Then I measured my feet and thought "wtf?" A full size. I never really got any benefits, just numbness in hands and water retention, but kept the faith over a number of years. No sleep improvement or anything. I finally just gave it up. Disappointing.

 

[Wrangel7]

I had this, too, unfortunately, particularly in wrists, which created a permanent tightness. Sometimes I'll twist my hands a certain way, and they'll kind of catch and hurt a bit. Feet also grew. I was getting pissed with the brand of shoes I buy and kept sending them back because they were too tight thinking they were manufactured poorly. Then I measured my feet and thought "wtf?" A full size. I never really got any benefits, just numbness in hands and water retention, but kept the faith over a number of years. No sleep improvement or anything. I finally just gave it up. Disappointing.

For me, shoes were a similar but different story. The speed indicates water retention was a major factor, but in a matter of a couple months (if not less), I would try and walk to the gym as quickly as possible and then take my shoes off immediately once I got inside because they were so tight and my feet were in pain. Then I had to buy new ones.

 

[glpfun]

Yep. Super desensitised. Over 2 vials of 36 iu a day from QSC.

Jfc

 

[juicebro]

I've always had very low igf-1 no matter the dosage or brand of gh. Doesn't mean gh isn't working.

 

[Here2Learn]

Probably butt hurt over the fat loss drugs.

That would be my guess.

 

[Wrangel7]

I've always had very low igf-1 no matter the dosage or brand of gh. Doesn't mean gh isn't working.

Going to check my IGF-1 with no exogenous HGH and compare to other data.

 

[Benf15harp]

I’d like to think that 90ius of hGh would result in a matching IQ score but, no way IQ would be that high.

 

[Middus]

If by "alphas" you mean full of idiot fucking primates confused about the nature of the world like yourself then sure.

I had a lengthier retort, but I can't manage to articulate it. My cognitive abilities are diminished having read your diatribe.

IMO, Alpha, Beta Sigma, Omega, Kappa = She, Him, Shim, Zhir, Zhee, Zuul

 

[Wrangel7]

I’d like to think that 90ius of hGh would result in a matching IQ score but, no way IQ would be that high.

IQ's been tested to be a few sigma over 100. Infer from that what you will.

 

[piggy_nui]

Well, I grew like crazy (including hands, feet and probably nose but not as much — mainly hands from what friends have noticed, although I'm not sure how much was water retention) for a while, and my HRV dropped, and RHR increased as expected. Then HRV & RHR stopped moving negatively and started recovering when it dumped sub 20ms. Then progress kinda slowed. I tested around this time. It's not as if my IGF-1 levels are natty; just not "worthy" of the dosages used.

Regarding injection frequency, I was aiming for every 4-5 hours, excluding sleep/work. More or less even doses other than after training with a slightly increased dose.

The frequency was to maximise lipolysis benefit to gain more aggressively; however, in hindsight, this was not the best decision.

Surprisingly, I'm not insulin resistant. Just over 4 mmol/l blood glucose level about 2 hours postprandial. HbA1c of just over 39 mmol/mol. No exogenous insulin use. No metformin (tried it but stopped it).

This is not just “water retention”. Your dose is gigantic. That’s acromegaly, a common side effect. It’s permanent.

 

[Trenbolonetax]

IQ's been tested to be a few sigma over 100. Infer from that what you will.

 

[lillijadeclyde]

IQ's been tested to be a few sigma over 100. Infer from that what you will.

a few sigma, like a few standard deviations above 100? that's an iq of 145+. you're full of shit

 

[Wrangel7]

This is not just “water retention”. Your dose is gigantic. That’s acromegaly, a common side effect. It’s permanent.

Of course! I was referring to the speed of it. Acromegaly doesn't happen that fast, but it has happened. Water retention is the major immediate contributor to foot size in the short term and acromegaly in the long term.

 

[Wrangel7]

a few sigma, like a few standard deviations above 100? that's an iq of 145+. you're full of shit

133 counts as a few. Would you like me to help you use a dictionary and look up "few" and other three letter words?

 

[CryAboutIt]

You hit the nail on the head. For people who have watched the entire progression of QSC you will find that things have changed quite a bit. All the testing, advanced testing, improvements in products, better pricing, etc. is all business decisions to bring in more customers and make more money. Many of these things are a win-win because we get what we want and Tracy gets more money. That's how business works and that's fine and good. Suddenly pretending to be friends and part of the "community" and that whole vibe I certainly cannot get on board with. You would hope that vendors care about their customers health and well-being to some degree, but I wouldn't count on it. Not in this market.

That's why members sticking together and utilizing a strict vetting process and holding vendors accountable is so important. If you find a good vendor on Meso, don't thank that vender, you can thank all the members who put the work in to hold a high standard and keep accountability in market.

I agree to a certain extent. Dick riding a vendor is exactly that. But why should I pay for testing, and publish testing for vendors and members alike to use for their benefit and ZERO cost to them? How does that benefit me? Because Meso is about harm reduction? Really? It js for most things but when it comes to vetting sources and their products it should be every man for themselves. My thought is if you keep testing to yourself and don’t publish testing for all to see it will always keep vendors guessing when their batches are being tested. Publishing testing gives buyers and potential buyers a false sense of security that testing doesn’t need to continue to be done. And if you can’t afford to pay for testing with the prices being offered by UGLs then you shouldn’t be buying from UGLs period. Go spend the money on pharma.

 

[Petarosus188]

Yep. Super desensitised. Over 2 vials of 36 iu a day from QSC.

Jesus Christ..