The effect is completely different, pharma gives stronger appetite suppression, can go through the day not thinking too much about food. Whereas the UGL stuff is having no noticeable impact on appetite. Weight is static, no loss since switching from pharma to UGL, but yet the dose is double. Using the same volume of bac water as I would with pharma, so around 0.5ml for each dose. As you said, adding a bit to the dose to get the same feeling is fine, but going double and not getting it is raising some alarm bells.