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Guess I need to keep stocking up on my $25/mo tirz while using the ugl stuff.
nothing will happen to UGL GLP1's. the FDA solely exists to protect the cash flow of big pharma thats true. however UGL is not big enough to go after and nobody even knows and can calculate how big UGL GLP1 market is. most UGL's which sell GLP1's also sell scheduled substances and they do flourish.
they target solely compounders as this market has been growing. i have couple friends, wealthy, who buy compounded, but refuse to pay 1000usd for brand ozempic. nobody has a clue what UGL is and most of them are scared to try it, but when I told them I can have 20usd tirz/sema per vial, they did make eyes
they target solely compounders as this market has been growing. i have couple friends, wealthy, who buy compounded, but refuse to pay 1000usd for brand ozempic. nobody has a clue what UGL is and most of them are scared to try it, but when I told them I can have 20usd tirz/sema per vial, they did make eyes
Ghoul
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The only reason I returned to UGL for a while was to establish a 6 month buffer supply of pens. Multiple occasions of "sorry, back ordered" despite the official "no shortage" designation Lily obtained, still happen.
Interruptions of almost any med for chronic conditions is never a good thing for obvious reasons, but protein drugs in particular have additional problems that "treatment holidays", that is extended interruptions, can cause.
I suspect there will be lawsuits against Eli Lily in the future when clinical data demonstrates this, and the reckless way Lily allowed this to happen over and over.
Novo Nordisk was much more responsible with Wegovy, stopping the supply of starter doses to ensure existing patients would be able to get their prescriptions filled.
Eli Lily did the opposite. Starter doses were almost continuously available, while higher doses for established patients frequently became unavailable,
Ghoul
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Both Sema and Tirz have $499 / mo options now from their respective pharma companies for cash payers. They'll even hook you up with a prescription via telemedicine.
Ending compounded versions, while lowering the price for cash payers, and greatly expanding insurance coverage was a deliberate strategy to harvest the maximum amount of money possible as their capacity to produce more expands. We know it only costs a few dollars max per dose, so it's hugely profitable even if they need to lower prices again,
A licensed compounded pharmacy is something most people are ok with using, but some stuff from a sketchy non-pharmacy source to save a few hundred a month is further than a lot of "normies" would go, unless they're already using UGL PEDs/peptides or are broke and have no option.
RandallFlagg
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Ehhhh, at this point we are all at the mercy of Elite Ghoul.
He made some vague but ended up being fairly accurate predictions about the steroid apocalypse (well, I think it was more the de minimus crap) and this sounds like this is at least the worst time in over a decade.
Unfortunately, I gotta believe he is on point with this and the best hope is stock up in the short term...and hope for some generics in a few years.
Exciting time to have these drugs (I don't think they are going to turn out to be too good to be true)
... disappointing the barriers to access (like insurance and Pharma actively working for different reasons to get access). Such is life.
Ghoul
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Thanks (I think, lol).
To be clear I'm sure it'll find a way in. Demand is tremendous (many people would sell a kidney to be thin). Everything can be obtained for a price, These aren't even controlled, so the risk/reward ratio is pretty good for smugglers.
My point has always been for AAS and now GLPS is that it's not going to get CHEAPER or easier to obtain for the foreseeable future.
"Waiting for this to pass" for anything you really rely on from China isn't wise imo or likely to put you in a position that'll make you think "sure glad I waited until nearly running out" before ordering.
How much is a safe buffer to stock up on i wonder
RandallFlagg
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Lol....I did phrase that kinda backhanded... unintentionally.
People confuse the steroid crackdown and the de minimus stuff as you already know...you correctly predicted a shit storm, even if there were a few extra ingredients that keep getting added. I guess "vague" was not a fair term in regards to the de minimus stuff.
The exact details don't matter to me when the apocalypse is upon us. You did give everyone a few months head start to prep.
BeardedGuy
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I don’t know why people are not certain grey GLPs are just ending. I suspect there will be pressure through the CN gov to end it like as if it were fentanyl… our government threatens China government and it gets shut down. Why would Eli, Novo, Viking, or any of them settle for anything less?
In other words, my opinion is worse than Ghoul’s. UGL/Grey GLP will cease. Just my $0.02
In other words, my opinion is worse than Ghoul’s. UGL/Grey GLP will cease. Just my $0.02
Ghoul
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I view it like this,
With pharma products, or even common AAS we have a good idea of how long they'll last, and how much we'll use in that period of time. It's just a matter of budget and risk tolerance. You can store 5.years worth of Test Cyp without issue for instance.
With UGL peptides we don't know how old they are, what conditions they've been stored in, etc.
When QSC Tracy was running group boys, he had to replace product twice because between the initial Jano test and the customer tests, purity dropped significantly,
If my only source of GLPs was UGL, I'd want at least 1 year on hand, and top up that supply as good deals appear. ,
A robust domestic market for UGL GLPs will develop to replace the direct from China system. But at least with a buffer you can ride out any chaos and price spikes until things settle down.
BeardedGuy
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I’m aiming 3 years. Frozen in a thermos in the back bottom of my regular freezer.
Hey I see you’re well versed in the C UGL game is there any company you recommend or if you can DM me with some recommendations for Reta, the companies I have been looking at are pretty pricey nothing under 160 for 10mg
Where are you guys going to get reasonable prices on Reta? I currently am on mounjaro but I would like a back up in case my insurance stops covering my meds.
BeardedGuy
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Honestly almost any CN vendor you see on here will have Reta
I’m like new new to buying stuff online I just found out about this forum a few days ago. Is there any company that’s trusted enough that sells it cheap enough to stock a few months worth at a time?
Ghoul
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If you're on Tirz my advice is to stay the course and stock up on that. It's a much better value, comparing cost of max dose to max dose, and frankly, since it's been in production longer, it seems reasonable to expect since the labs have had longer to optimize it, working out the "bugs" that likely lead to a purer, and perhaps more stable product.
In many ways, peptide production is more like a tech product than a conventional drug with straightforward chemistry.
Ghoul
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The rules forbid us from discussing suppliers outside the "Underground" forum. I suggest you go there, and browse the threads at the top of the "sponsored" list at the top of the page, and the "unsponsored" vendor threads below, Those are the most active.
Go to the ends of the threads and work backwards to get a sense of the vendor's reputation.
If you can't post in there, click your user icon and select "upgrade account" where you make a very small contribution to MESO and immediately get the ability to post in there,
If you are also new to crypto payments, a necessity for these purchases, there's a forum here you can ask for help getting started.
Do not be intimidated from asking anything for fear of it being a "stupid question". The crowd here can be a bit rough, but someone will always step in to help with what you need.
I really appreciate that! I’ve seen you’re very active on the forum so I was hoping that you’d see my post and respond thank you for the sound advice!
If you are able to send a message with your advice I’d really appreciate it but I’ll go through the forum like you said meantime!
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