SnowyMiami
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Question to those cutting on GLP's. Do you intend to just keep them in forever like GH and test?
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Do you plan to live on GLP?
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I will defo run one as long until i reach my weight loss goals and reversed my Type 2 Diabetes, afterwards to prevent a crash i could imagine running low dose Tirza or Retra but mostly for stable glucose levels. So maybe for another 6-12 months or so. Stuff is already expensive as hell but who knows, maybe this changes within the next years and prices of 1mg drops do 8-9€ or so.
(Yes, i know there are chinese sources but the shipping, long waiting times, risks, lack of testing and communication is just not my thing.)
(Yes, i know there are chinese sources but the shipping, long waiting times, risks, lack of testing and communication is just not my thing.)
AlexDavis43
Member
I'd use a GLP1 until I reached goal weight and had enough time to establish a better diet & lifestyle to maintain it.
You don't want to use GLP1s as a crutch to make up for poor diet & lifestyle forever.
You don't want to use GLP1s as a crutch to make up for poor diet & lifestyle forever.
Ghoul
Member
Like type II diabetics use insulin or hypogonadal men use TRT as a crutch?
GLP-1 is an endogenous hormone that drives human behavior via mechanisms as potent as the most powerful drug addiction. It can be produced in insufficient quantity or an insensitivity can develop causing a relentless, dysfunctional appetite.
AlexDavis43
Member
There are loads of studies on type II diabetics coming off insulin with diet & lifestyle interventions. There are also studies on people coming off GLP1s who don't regain weight if the intervention included diet & lifestyle interventions.
TRT for men with hypogonadism is different.
Ghoul
Member
Don't let the dinosaurs who want to frame this issue as one of their superior will vs your inferior will. We knew better now.
They premise this on the belief everyone experiences the drive of appetite the same way they do, and they're just more disciplined.
The way that skinny loser pumping gas is a paragon of "self control" and not just someone without dysfunctional appetite.
Eli and Novo should be faulted for not making this clearer, which is intentional, for obvious reasons. Fewer would be willing to start if they thought it would be long term. Hard enough to get normies over the fear of needles.
Once relentless "food noise" is alleviated, many people, feeling like they have control over their health for the first time, do begin making better choices.
We see plenty of new members here who started on GLPs, then, in their quest to become healthier and get better results at the gym end up moving on to TRT.
Ghoul
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It's possible, yes, but for most people, regardless of changes in habits, the underlying problem is still there, food noise returns and they have to expend all available willpower to resist it, leaving little bandwidth for much else.
Besides, thus far, there's no evidence, not even a hint, of harm from long term use. If anything, it seems likely to be beneficial in ways beyond weight control.
Cost is primary downside.
I feel the same way about GLP/GIP as I do about TRT. It should be talked about honestly and fairly, and more people could use them than have them (or have access to them).
The food in the US is more available, more tasty, and less useful than its ever been.
NPP hunger is fuckin killing me rn but you take the good with the bad lmao
Probably. Not even for the weight related issues, but all the promise we're seeing in preventing cancer, alzheimers/dementia, cardiovascular events, etc. We see improvements in health outcomes in all these areas even irrespective of weight loss.
Until there is evidence of negative outcomes that aren't easily mitigated, I plan on staying on. Same with meds to lower my lipids and BP.
Until there is evidence of negative outcomes that aren't easily mitigated, I plan on staying on. Same with meds to lower my lipids and BP.
Absolutely. Since starting Tirz, it’s been smooth sailing - insulin resistance? Gone. Blood sugar? Rock steady (wasn’t even a problem before, but hey, I’ll take the upgrade). Feeling great overall, and inflammation quietly packed its bags and left.
Tirz isn’t just about blood sugar - it’s the full VIP package: appetite in check, digestion on point, stable energy all day, and even mood’s been smoother. Don’t know if it’s a plus or a minus, but I’ve turned cold-blooded on Tirz - nothing gets an emotional reaction out of me anymore. And food? Completely lost interest. It’s just fuel now, nothing more. Some studies even point to cardiovascular and anti-inflammatory perks. So yeah, feels like a keeper. Why fix what’s clearly working?
Tirz isn’t just about blood sugar - it’s the full VIP package: appetite in check, digestion on point, stable energy all day, and even mood’s been smoother. Don’t know if it’s a plus or a minus, but I’ve turned cold-blooded on Tirz - nothing gets an emotional reaction out of me anymore. And food? Completely lost interest. It’s just fuel now, nothing more. Some studies even point to cardiovascular and anti-inflammatory perks. So yeah, feels like a keeper. Why fix what’s clearly working?
Unfortunately thus is what they are designed to be. This is how they are being used vs compounds like aas, t3, clen, gh, ec which work in conjunction with willpower to teach good habits and enhance healthy practices.
Ghoul
Member
GLP-1 is a hormone. The primary hormone governing energy homeostasis. Someone can be deficient in production or sensitivity of that hormone like any other,
Diabetics survived, poorly, and with significant suffering prior to the development of exogenous insulin by dedicating an all consuming level of "self control" to managing the timing and amount of every gram of sugar and carbs they consumed. Now they can live better, healthier lives thanks to science, by adhering to the medication and keeping up on the other necessary steps to maintain their health on insulin.
GLP use is not successful with "bad habits". It just takes off the pressure of what is, for most, a dysfunctional appetite that signals the need to eat in excess of energy requirements. The number of knuckle dragging retards who think folks eat fast food and ice cream and the shot miraculously induces weight loss is astonishing, It's the same mindset of people who look down on steroid users because they think a shot grows muscle effortlessly, They're considered cheaters,
The willfully ignorance and contempt of the same people who inject themselves on a routine basis with hormones in supra-physiologic doses that are harmful to health, rather than health improving like GLPs, merely for purposes of satisfying their vanity is astonishing.
By the same logic applied to GLP users, they need the 'willpower' to add more chicken breast to their diets and plates to the bar, not another injection, before spouting off about other people's exogenous hormone use.
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And if you ever need a bit more for blood glucose management, you still got 3 other options.
trobertson33
New Member
When j reached my goal I started taking a smaller dose every 10 days or so just to maintain
You summed it up nicely. And the part about inflammation packing it’s bags is so true and welcome.
