MESO-Rx Exclusive 1-Testosterone (DHB): Effects, Risks, and Hepatotoxicity

[eery]

So dhb has less side effects than tren?

From a mental, mood and psychiatric POV, that seems to be the case.

Some get extreme lethargy and it wrecks their immune system after a few weeks, and the potential inflammation and liver effects that are theorized.

We dont really know enough about it to say and the anecdotes are all over the place. Try it and make up your own opinion.

 

[sliderke]

From a mental, mood and psychiatric POV, that seems to be the case.

Some get extreme lethargy and it wrecks their immune system after a few weeks, and the potential inflammation and liver effects that are theorized.

We dont really know enough about it to say and the anecdotes are all over the place. Try it and make up your own opinion.

Thnx for the reply.
First going to start with the test eq thzt
I have on hand now.
The dhb try will be for the end
Of the year then. What would be a good combination with it apart from the obvious test.

 

[OasAAS]

It’s not, actually!

Boldenone (EQ) doesn’t 5α-reduce to DHB in vivo in man. [1]. It's part of the reason why I'm very careful to designate it by its name from the nomenclature, 1-Testosterone (1-Test; 1-Testo).

Boldenone singularly produces 5α-androst-1-ene-3,17-dione in vivo in man, in only minuscule amounts since it is so resistant to 5α-reductase. [1].

I actually wrote about why boldenone (EQ) has these effects you're referring to here:

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References
[1] Goto, T., Tohkin, M., & Yamazoe, Y. (2019). Solving the interactions of steroidal ligands with CYP3A4 using a grid-base template system. Drug Metabolism and Pharmacokinetics. doi:10.1016/j.dmpk.2019.05.003

Wait so I really have 0 DHB circulating though I’ve been on eq250 for 4 months?

 

[xrayphoton13]

Wait so I really have 0 DHB circulating though I’ve been on eq250 for 4 months?

Correct. And you're one of the few people on the Internet who knows that neat fact now

 

[OasAAS]

Correct. And you're one of the few people on the Internet who knows that neat fact now

Welp time to brew some DHB tomorrow

 

[xrayphoton13]

Welp time to brew some DHB tomorrow

It may sound odd but I would much rather run tren. C-reactive protein seems to skyrocket in DHB users. If we had definitive proof that it was guaiacol causing it that would be one thing but there are anecdotal reports of people swearing there is no guaiacol in their DHB but c-reactive protein was still elevated

 

[OasAAS]

It may sound odd but I would much rather run tren. C-reactive protein seems to skyrocket in DHB users. If we had definitive proof that it was guaiacol causing it that would be one thing but there are anecdotal reports of people swearing there is no guaiacol in their DHB but c-reactive protein was still elevated

Tren doesn’t vibe with me but DHB I’m one of the few that can tolerate.

It’s not like tren tho. Only tren is tren

 

[OasAAS]

I’m waiting on some more EO to come in then I’m going whip up a batch. Let’s give it a shot see how it is/isn’t synergistic with EQ.

 

[oldgrey]

Tren doesn’t vibe with me but DHB I’m one of the few that can tolerate.

It’s not like tren tho. Only tren is tren

If you don't mind, when you say you can tolerate it, what specific effects / sides are you referring too? thanks

 

[OasAAS]

If you don't mind, when you say you can tolerate it, what specific effects / sides are you referring too? thanks

No debilitating PIP

 

[oldmanwilliams]

I'm interested in more details in the possible carcinogenicity.

When I used DHB my C reactive protein was normal on it. I do take a lot of things that are anti-inflammatory which may counteract the DHB side effects. I felt fine on it but eventually I got an abscess from it I believe. I don't know if it is worth using or not because it's so wierd in the sense that something is likely go to wrong if you use it long enough.

 

[Mrhairyman]

@Type-IIx
Wish you had an audio version

 

[OasAAS]

@Type-IIx
Wish you had an audio version

Reading too hard?

 

[demon]

tried a low dose for 8 weeks and really enjoyed it: ~250 mg Test (opti) and 140 mg DHB (QSC), daily injections. Strength gains were noticeable, though my joints got a bit sore — not sure if that was from pushing weights hard or a drop in E2. I’m still waiting on the sensitive E2 results.


Next, I’m considering dropping to 200 mg Test and 70 mg DHB for 6 weeks and rechecking labs.

 

[Ricky93]

Wait so I really have 0 DHB circulating though I’ve been on eq250 for 4 months?

Probably not 0. It's generally accepted boldenone converts at a very low rate to DHB. Some say it's 1%. Vigorous Steve had a video 4 years ago he mentioned it was something like 2-5%? Anyway he was making rough estimates and I believe has since posted new videos with a lower percentage.

It may sound odd but I would much rather run tren. C-reactive protein seems to skyrocket in DHB users. If we had definitive proof that it was guaiacol causing it that would be one thing but there are anecdotal reports of people swearing there is no guaiacol in their DHB but c-reactive protein was still elevated

Synthetic solvents are well known to raise CRP and from what I've seen DHB crashes at a relatively low dose (100-200+?) so I'm not surprised underground labs will use whatever and get away with it.

I'm interested in more details in the possible carcinogenicity.

When I used DHB my C reactive protein was normal on it. I do take a lot of things that are anti-inflammatory which may counteract the DHB side effects. I felt fine on it but eventually I got an abscess from it I believe. I don't know if it is worth using or not because it's so wierd in the sense that something is likely go to wrong if you use it long enough.

Can you elaborate on that 'abscess'? U're talking about an excess in CRP or something entirely different?

 

[oldmanwilliams]

Probably not 0. It's generally accepted boldenone converts at a very low rate to DHB. Some say it's 1%. Vigorous Steve had a video 4 years ago he mentioned it was something like 2-5%? Anyway he was making rough estimates and I believe has since posted new videos with a lower percentage.


Synthetic solvents are well known to raise CRP and from what I've seen DHB crashes at a relatively low dose (100-200+?) so I'm not surprised underground labs will use whatever and get away with it.


Can you elaborate on that 'abscess'? U're talking about an excess in CRP or something entirely different?

My CRP was nonexistent. I got a nasty abscess in my left delt and I am sure it was from the DHB which to me means it's too much of a wildcard. What do you want to know about it?

 

[Fizzik]

My CRP was nonexistent. I got a nasty abscess in my left delt and I am sure it was from the DHB which to me means it's too much of a wildcard. What do you want to know about it?

Was it a sterile abscess or an infection?

 

[adrenalytic]

My CRP was nonexistent. I got a nasty abscess in my left delt and I am sure it was from the DHB which to me means it's too much of a wildcard. What do you want to know about it?

DHB the molecule gave you an abscess?

 

[Ricky93]

My CRP was nonexistent. I got a nasty abscess in my left delt and I am sure it was from the DHB which to me means it's too much of a wildcard. What do you want to know about it?

Was DHB all u injected into that delt? Something has simple as dropping a nedlee on the floor is enough to cause an infection.

 

[adrenalytic]

Was DHB all u injected into that delt? Something has simple as dropping a nedlee on the floor is enough to cause an infection.

This is kinda what I was driving at. The API would not cause an abscess. Unsanitary injection technique or shitty brewer is a more likely cause. Not the drugs fault.

DHB is an amazing anabolic if you can tolerate it.