RHR difference between HGH brands

[Benf15harp]

. I wish this stuff would boost my RHR

 

[Mariafitness]

I would not take that as the conclusion.


For the general topic:

4IU of Lobster, SRY, and Opti Gold Top have all increased my RHR, but it has stayed relatively static on them the whole time.

Semi-related, Ivabradine has been effective at mitigating the majority of my AAS/HGH/Reta induced RHR increased heart rate now that I've been on it for a few days. 15-20bpm drop.

Have you tried magnesium? at a few gram dosing

 

[hexagonal]

Have you tried magnesium? at a few gram dosing

Yes. Zero impact.

 

[Kralteramon]

Not to keep dragging out this topic but I noticed that QSC HGH when just reconstituted has these transparant strands that seem to form in the liquid. It goes away after a few hours and turns completely transparent. Lobster HGH does not have those when just reconstituted. What can those strands be? Could it be aggregates? Strange because they dissapear after a while.

 

[Ghoul]

Not to keep dragging out this topic but I noticed that QSC HGH when just reconstituted has these transparant strands that seem to form in the liquid. It goes away after a few hours and turns completely transparent. Lobster HGH does not have those when just reconstituted. What can those strands be? Could it be aggregates? Strange because they dissapear after a while.

Fibril aggregates caused by incorrect PH and unfolded rHGH. Like these:



That we hope don't become these:

 

[Kralteramon]

So what the hell is wrong with QSC HGH. I get worse sides, way higher rhr. Could it be because of those fibrils? And why the hell do they only show themselves right after reconstituting? It looks a bit like strong alcohol when it's really cold. Like cloudy, but not white just really transparent.

 

[Ghoul]

So what the hell is wrong with QSC HGH. I get worse sides, way higher rhr. Could it be because of those fibrils? And why the hell do they only show themselves right after reconstituting? It looks a bit like strong alcohol when it's really cold. Like cloudy, but not white just really transparent.

Personally I don't think "contaminants" are responsible for increasing GH sides. They may cause *other* sides, but the odds some defective rHGH molecule or whatever impurity in the vial would induce exactly the same sides that properly functioning growth hormone induces is extremely unlikely, and never been found to be the case in studies. The most likely thing a "broken" rHGH molecule does, is nothing. It doesn't bind to the GH receptor, and just gets eliminated from your system. Worst case scenario it triggers an immune reaction, but those are different side effects,

What's much more likely IMO is that the brands of rHGH that cause more GH sides are just more potent. There's more functioning rHGH per mg, so it causes stronger effects, both desirable and sides.

I know that's counterintuitive, but the most likely reason 5iu of one brand causes sides, and 5iu of another doesn't, isn't because the latter is "cleaner", it's because it's weaker.

Another possibility is that some difference in formulation makes one absorb more slowly than another. A difference in PH, ie slightly acidic, would make blood vessels constrict at the injection site, slowing absorption down significantly, reducing sides.

 

[dinfar1337]

Personally I don't think "contaminants" are responsible for increasing GH sides. They may cause *other* sides, but the odds some defective rHGH molecule or whatever impurity in the vial would induce exactly the same sides that properly functioning growth hormone induces is extremely unlikely, and never been found to be the case in studies. The most likely thing a "broken" rHGH molecule does, is nothing. It doesn't bind to the GH receptor, and just gets eliminated from your system. Worst case scenario it triggers an immune reaction, but those are different side effects,

What's much more likely IMO is that the brands of rHGH that cause more GH sides are just more potent. There's more functioning rHGH per mg, so it causes stronger effects, both desirable and sides.

I know that's counterintuitive, but the most likely reason 5iu of one brand causes sides, and 5iu of another doesn't, isn't because the latter is "cleaner", it's because it's weaker.

Another possibility is that some difference in formulation makes one absorb more slowly than another. A difference in PH, ie slightly acidic, would make blood vessels constrict at the injection site, slowing absorption down significantly, reducing sides.

completely agree, hgh causes side effects, impurities gets caught up in the body and gets murdered by some anti bodies or whatever.

this idea of a side effect difference from 95% hgh and 99% tested hgh is funny. its like saying 80% purity test raws which is what is circulating the market now causes 600mg testosterone estrogen even tho im only injecting 500?

 

[Kralteramon]

It's just hard to believe such a huge bump in rhr between brands, and it's not a short rhr spike it lasts for 8 hours or more. I aknowledge you have good points. My SSA HGH arives today. Will update you after I tried. If you're right about the side effects, that would mean that Lobster HGH is bunk as hell.

 

[dinfar1337]

It's just hard to believe such a huge bump in rhr between brands, and it's not a short rhr spike it lasts for 8 hours or more. I aknowledge you have good points. My SSA HGH arives today. Will update you after I tried. If you're right about the side effects, that would mean that Lobster HGH is bunk as hell.

I dont disagree

 

[readalot]

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Read these two excellent references. Exogenous GH increases cardiovascular output (CO). If your RHR jumps dramatically with increased resting CO, what does that tell you about your stroke volume (SV) and overall cardiovascular fitness?

Unclear to me if GH directly acts primarily as a chronotropic agent or if the increase in RHR is secondary to increase in CO.

 

[readalot]

And the blood pressure tie in:

CV Physiology | Systemic Vascular Resistance

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[MisterT]

It's just hard to believe such a huge bump in rhr between brands, and it's not a short rhr spike it lasts for 8 hours or more. I aknowledge you have good points. My SSA HGH arives today. Will update you after I tried. If you're right about the side effects, that would mean that Lobster HGH is bunk as hell.

So how was the SSA gh? You grab their 24 or 36? Heard lots of clouding with the 36

 

[brutalbuilt]

i had the worst water retention with qsc hgh out of every brand i ever tried

 

[Kralteramon]

So how was the SSA gh? You grab their 24 or 36? Heard lots of clouding with the 36

Haven't tried it yet. Will start this weekend until next week and report my findings . Thanks for following up!

 

[Stubb]

I've been using lobster stuff for the past month. Have a batch of SSA stuff ill be trying out once im through this vial, will also report any differences. I haven't seen an increase in my RHR on it so far, or any other sides.

 

[Kralteramon]

I've been using lobster stuff for the past month. Have a batch of SSA stuff ill be trying out once im through this vial, will also report any differences. I haven't seen an increase in my RHR on it so far, or any other sides.

Good! Let me know. Maybe we can find a few more people to share cost for a jano test ($300). Who knows, maybe the HGH sent in by Lob is not the same stuff as we got. I haven't seen many user testing for the stuff.

 

[Zyrtex]

I just wonder how much of this is "placebo" and youre just gaslighting yourself into this. Tell someone to switch up your vials randomly and lets see if the rhr gets raised the same or different between brands.

 

[alan7890]

Just received 24iu kits and the tops are blue but when I look on janoshik test pictures the tops are green, has anyone else received H24 with with blue tops ?

 

[Stubb]

Its probably worth noting that whilst I've not experienced any negative side effects I can definitely say that my hair and nails have been growing noticeably faster. Only time will tell if lobster's stuff lives up to its name and the pincers start growing too.