How did the myth start that Primobolan was an AI?

[Spaceman Spiff]

There however, is shame in being painfully unintelligent while not noticing it and making it other peoples problem.

I lost my shit at this statement

 

[eryximachus]

Post in thread 'Blood work with Stanford's Test C/Primo'

Jan 7, 2022

Help me out here with the blue circles red circles, two weeks, etc.

It looks like you had estradiol of 24pg/ml two weeks after starting 300mg of testosterone and 300mg of primobolan, both at unknown esters.

Is there any further information available?

I don't see a follow up test. I don't see a baseline test.

You indicate that you increased the testosterone, and it looks like you have increased it again, and added "Ethinyl estradiol. 35 mcg"

Still no further blood tests.


Am I missing any information?


If I am not, how did you conclude that you "crashed" your estradiol with...

• malfeasance

Wow this thread is CRAZY.

Here is someone else who is basically being nice to you (which you never were to me here) while telling you that your argument makes no sense. You couldn't explain yourself then, and you can't explain yourself now.

@malfeasance help me out bro

 

[niqTM]

This has to be one of the most popular threads I have seen on this forum since I started. 4 pages in 6 hours. Primo is a "primo" subject.

 

[IndividualMan]

've raised a number of valid questions, most of which have been ignored and none of which have been answered satisfactorily.

You want satisfaction? Go satisfy yourself instead of riling yourself up in this thread so you can angrily bone your concerningly large, comically unaesthetic wife later.

 

[eryximachus]

if it really was mass hysteria on here/ on the internet, why did my almost 87yo great- something uncle use primo in the 80s to "keep the dbol water weight away". and why do local gear bros who know nothing of this mass hysteria routinely turn up with cushed E2 on their first ever bloodwork while taking primo for the first time?

There is no shame in admitting that you might have been wrong, and that a medication might have slightly different effects on different people metabolizing it slightly differently..

There however, is shame in being painfully unintelligent while not noticing it and making it other peoples problem.

Because you're totally full of shit. And you still haven't read the Bill Roberts piece. Primo was RARE until the Chinese started making it in the early 2010s. It was not available. I don't ever recall seeing it for sale until that time.

Thinksteroids.com has been around SINCE THE 1990s!!!

You can't find ANYTHING like this until the past few years.

So for 25 years - everyone here was in the dark. But now, we have seen the light.

But why?

This is pure madness.

 

[eryximachus]

You want satisfaction? Go satisfy yourself instead of riling yourself up in this thread so you can angrily bone your concerningly large, comically unaesthetic wife later.

You can't look yourself in the mirror and realize you're delusional.

That is a delusion. It is a fixed belief that cannot be changed no matter what evidence or reasoning is employed.

Pure mental illness.

 

[niqTM]

“Primo drove 100 miles a week combining 15 milli granola bars…” -Frank Zane

 

[Tdeck81]

I've raised a number of valid questions, most of which have been ignored and none of which have been answered satisfactorily.

 

[IndividualMan]

Because you're totally full of shit. And you still haven't read the Bill Roberts piece. Primo was RARE until the Chinese started making it in the early 2010s. It was not available. I don't ever recall seeing it for sale until that time.

Thinksteroids.com has been around SINCE THE 1990s!!!

You can't find ANYTHING like this until the past few years.

So for 25 years - everyone here was in the dark. But now, we have seen the light.

But why?

This is pure madness.

again, you are wrong. my great-whatever uncle used it precisely for keeping estrogenic effects at bay (I did not want to grow breasts and look like a fat person in my handsome face; in his words).
They did not have this forum or chinese primo in the middle of germany in the 80s. only difference is, he used it to inhibit conversion into methylestradiol isntead of normal E2.

You can't look yourself in the mirror and realize you're delusional.

That is a delusion. It is a fixed belief that cannot be changed no matter what evidence or reasoning is employed.

Pure mental illness.

you are the one showing signs of mental illness. all I am doing is being a little unkind to an old man having some kind of episode.

I would invite you to come to my country and study you in a lab setting, we have a few projects running regarding the development of aggression and stubbornness (and a few other antisocial qualities) in elderly poulations.

Current working data suggests that the deprivation of personal interaction and feelings of inadequacy often go hand in hand with antisocial tendencies, which can start to develop as early as your 40s.
These changes happen far earlier than most other age related personality changes, and can have drastic effects on cognitive decline later in life.

 

[eryximachus]

I lost my shit at this statement

"Mast can dry you out as it affects e2 receptors as well. They did a study and it affected healthy breast tissue. Kind of why people anectodally stated it helped with gyno."

Did it not occur to you that the name Masteron and Mastectomy were very similar? That maybe some additional research was required?

Maybe you could have searched this very forum?

Wikipedia?

And why the fuck do you have a different username?

 

[frenexen]

A lot of retards coming out of the woodworks recently it seems. Must all be emboldened by their shitty AI tools.

 

[BamaCrazy]

This has to be one of the most popular threads I have seen on this forum since I started. 4 pages in 6 hours. Primo is a "primo" subject.

The cool thing is you can read one comment from each of the first two pages, go to the last page and nothing has changed. A cycle of getting nowhere.

 

[dick_starbuck]

This was as pointless as it gets.

 

[IndividualMan]

And why the fuck do you have a different username?

In most forums, there are more than two people posting messages. You are referring to a direct messaging, which usually only consists of two participants, exchanging text messages.

The cool thing is you can read one comment from each of the first two pages, go to the last page and nothing has changed. A cycle of getting nowhere.

story of OPs life. i doubt it was only 1 cycle tho

 

[eryximachus]

again, you are wrong. my great-whatever uncle used it precisely for keeping estrogenic effects at bay (I did not want to grow breasts and look like a fat person in my handsome face; in his words).
They did not have this forum or chinese primo in the middle of germany in the 80s. only difference is, he used it to inhibit conversion into methylestradiol isntead of normal E2.

you are the one showing signs of mental illness. all I am doing is being a little unkind to an old man having some kind of episode.

I would invite you to come to my country and study you in a lab setting, we have a few projects running regarding the development of aggression and stubbornness (and a few other antisocial qualities) in elderly poulations.

Current working data suggests that the deprivation of personal interaction and feelings of inadequacy often go hand in hand with antisocial tendencies, which can start to develop as early as your 40s.
These changes happen far earlier than most other age related personality changes, and can have drastic effects on cognitive decline later in life.

Ok.

So, here we are.

1980: IndividualMan' s uncle uses Primo in 1980.

1999: Meso-RX founded

2022: First mention of Primobolan being an aromatase inhibitor on Meso-RX

EVIDENCE????? Random people claiming bloodwork, including SpacemanSpiff - AKA Rido - who wrote a bunch of incompressible shit in 2022 and that he still cannot summarize.

Explanation of what the fuck was going on from 1999-2022???? NOTHING

Evidence of mechanism of action? NOTHING.

Explanation as to why Schering missed this very important discovery of the MOST POWERFUL AROMATASE INHIBITOR KNOWN TO MAN??? NOTHING

Explanation as to why Bill Roberts FORGOT to mention that Primobolan is the most powerful aromatase inhibitor known to man? NOTHING

 

[eryximachus]

In most forums, there are more than two people posting messages. You are referring to a direct messaging, which usually only consists of two participants, exchanging text messages.

story of OPs life. i doubt it was only 1 cycle tho

Are you Rido? Because I thought that was SpacemanSpiff.

What the fuck does direct messaging have to do with anything?

 

[Bandern]

Ok.

So, here we are.

1980: IndividualMan' s uncle uses Primo in 1980.

1999: Meso-RX founded

2022: First mention of Primobolan being an aromatase inhibitor on Meso-RX

EVIDENCE????? Random people claiming bloodwork, including SpacemanSpiff - AKA Rido - who wrote a bunch of incompressible shit in 2022 and that he still cannot summarize.

Explanation of what the fuck was going on from 1999-2022???? NOTHING

Evidence of mechanism of action? NOTHING.

Explanation as to why Schering missed this very important discovery of the MOST POWERFUL AROMATASE INHIBITOR KNOWN TO MAN??? NOTHING

Explanation as to why Bill Roberts FORGOT to mention that Primobolan is the most powerful aromatase inhibitor known to man? NOTHING

Did anyone else picture him convulsing and blowing spit bubbles while he typed this

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

And why the fuck do you have a different username?

Because I trensitioned and went by a different name

 

[IndividualMan]

Ok.

So, here we are.

1980: IndividualMan' s uncle uses Primo in 1980.

1999: Meso-RX founded

2022: First mention of Primobolan being an aromatase inhibitor on Meso-RX

EVIDENCE????? Random people claiming bloodwork, including SpacemanSpiff - AKA Rido - who wrote a bunch of incompressible shit in 2022 and that he still cannot summarize.

Explanation of what the fuck was going on from 1999-2022???? NOTHING

Evidence of mechanism of action? NOTHING.

Explanation as to why Schering missed this very important discovery of the MOST POWERFUL AROMATASE INHIBITOR KNOWN TO MAN??? NOTHING

Explanation as to why Bill Roberts FORGOT to mention that Primobolan is the most powerful aromatase inhibitor known to man? NOTHING

not the most powerful, and most importantly: not in everyone. did you not read ANY of the replies you got? sampei and spiff both said that it was especially inhibitory FOR THEM.

A quick question for you. Completely disconnected from this thread: How would you feel if you had not eaten breakfast today?

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Did anyone else picture him convulsing and blowing spit bubbles while he typed this

He is on that Mike Mentzer stack.

I am not talking about his anabolic choices either