How did the myth start that Primobolan was an AI?

The issue is Coinbase makes me wait for 7 business days. I don't know why. I can use XMR, the address I was given was bitcoin.
Great, so donation tomorrow?

Edit: You also could've just said you'll pay XMR. Would be done already. OFC that would've been the end of the world for you, your mother may need to wait for her next paycheck still.
 
Blood work with same regimen / Test dose without the Primo.

What else you running? SHBG of 3?

Please take care of yourself. Your trig/hdl-c ratio is abysmal Brother.
we already know the answer, either deflect or he discover he is a responder to primo on next bloodwork with everything higher. he is getting way too much attention because of the 10year badge, anyone other would have a dead 3 page thread

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Blood work with same regimen / Test dose without the Primo.

What else you running? SHBG of 3?

Please take care of yourself. Your trig/hdl-c ratio is abysmal Brother.
Dude takes everyone for a bunch of idiots and argues against his own bloodwork before learning what a control is.

Why are these people pinning anything? Leave the primo out of the occasion, there are so many things wrong with that bloodwork he probably shouldn't even be on TRT without the 4 fucking ml of primo, let alone with it.
 
How many times do you need it explained?

You have damn near crashed E2 at 180/w at 265 free test.
It is your bloodwork, you can see the numbers. ALl it takes is literally 2 minutes of looking into medical reference ranges.

Friend, no one has explained anything here. This is what appears when I search for estradiol reference ranges.

You seem to be claiming that "free test" should be converted to estrogen, hence the estradiol rate should be much higher. Therefore, I am wrong.

Maybe. But is it not odd that estradiol is in range?

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Dude takes everyone for a bunch of idiots and argues against his own bloodwork before learning what a control is.

Why are these people pinning anything? Leave the primo out of the occasion, there are so many things wrong with that bloodwork he probably shouldn't even be on TRT without the 4 fucking ml of primo, let alone with it.
By all means - explain.

If it is that bad, shouldn't your concern for a fellow human warrant a few minutes of your time to expound on your concerns?
 
Friend, no one has explained anything here. This is what appears when I search for estradiol reference ranges.

You seem to be claiming that "free test" should be converted to estrogen, hence the estradiol rate should be much higher. Therefore, I am wrong.

Maybe. But is it not odd that estradiol is in range?

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YOU ARE ALMOST DOUBLE THE REFERENCE RANGE FOR FREE T

Why on fucking earh would it be strange that you get lowest third of the range on double the generally described trt dosages and twice the top of the range free T? There's no maybe's here. None. None at all. YOu have the E2 of the average dude on 80mg/w test and some adex.

What are you still arguing? You are literally sending us the results of low E2, ABSOLUTELY crashed SHBG which RAISES E2 and double the top of the range FT which yet again RAISES E2 just to end up at what is considered close to crashed E2 on A HUNDRED AND EIGHTY MG OF TEST AND 3IUs OF GH which yet again RAISES E2.

What even is your argument? Genuinely asking, what did you manage to grasp onto this time? Another chat GPT answer showing you're wrong?

You are literally reading your most trusted (by the way admiteddly completely useless for medical purposes) source and it's STILL telling you you're wrong.

Drop your TRT to 40mg/w and cruise around levels 250-300. That should leave you in range, so you shouldn't notice any difference. Realize how retarded you sound now?
 
YOU ARE ALMOST DOUBLE THE REFERENCE RANGE FOR FREE T

Why on fucking earh would it be strange that you get lowest third of the range on double the generally described trt dosages and twice the top of the range free T? There's no maybe's here. None. None at all. YOu have the E2 of the average dude on 80mg/w test and some adex.

What are you still arguing? You are literally sending us the results of low E2, ABSOLUTELY crashed SHBG which RAISES E2 and double the top of the range FT which yet again RAISES E2 just to end up at what is considered close to crashed E2 on A HUNDRED AND EIGHTY MG OF TEST AND 3IUs OF GH which yet again RAISES E2.

What even is your argument? Genuinely asking, what did you manage to grasp onto this time? Another chat GPT answer showing you're wrong?

You are literally reading your most trusted (by the way admiteddly completely useless for medical purposes) source and it's STILL telling you you're wrong.

Drop your TRT to 40mg/w and cruise around levels 250-300. That should leave you in range, so you shouldn't notice any difference. Realize how retarded you sound now?
Throughout this thread - I've really been baffled by the magnitude of rage.

I am not even arguing, I specifically ask for suggestions - and it's still f bombs, retard and so on.

Anyway, thanks for taking the time to review my bloodwork.
 
Throughout this thread - I've really been baffled by the magnitude of rage.

I am not even arguing, I specifically ask for suggestions - and it's still f bombs, retard and so on.

Anyway, thanks for taking the time to review my bloodwork.
We've been nice for a solid 10 pages. Then you started getting ridiculous.

Every question has been answered and explained to the fullest, suggestion have been made. You straight up dismiss your own bloodwork, not much more we can do.

You can see with your own set of eyes what's happening. You have a regimen and bloodwork of someone at double, tripple the top of the range for E2 and still get VERY LOW E2 results and argue there no inhibition going on,.

Dude, ffs, just look at your E2 reading if you don't have the braincells to proccess the more complicated stuff. Your E2 is fucking 23. That is a low reading. No ifs, no buts, no discussion possible.

You have low E2 on enough test for 2 genuine male TRTs and enough free T for 4-5 men.
YOu are on pretty high sports trt with HGH and have borderline crashed E2. If you can't just see that you indeed are retarded.

I'm out of here, got pretty pissed off by now.






retard
 
Blood work with same regimen / Test dose without the Primo.

What else you running? SHBG of 3?

Please take care of yourself. Your trig/hdl-c ratio is abysmal Brother.
It is my understanding that DHT lowers SHBG. Primo has always lowered it significantly for me. It is my understanding that this is typical behavior, and a quick search of Pubmed shows a number of studies to that effect, they are based on bioidentical DHT and not manufactured derivatives.

I am taking rosuvastatin and telmisartan.
 
i've learned I need to run primo 1:1 with my test.
I found that running Test & EQ at 200:200 keeps my E2 mid reference range but at 500:500 my E2 is in the toilet and my joints hurt so bad I couldn't even train so be careful if you ever increase your dose. You may find the primo overpowers the test at higher doses like EQ did for me. Or even the opposite.
 
It is my understanding that DHT lowers SHBG. Primo has always lowered it significantly for me. It is my understanding that this is typical behavior, and a quick search of Pubmed shows a number of studies to that effect, they are based on bioidentical DHT and not manufactured derivatives.

I am taking rosuvastatin and telmisartan.
So do you have bloodwork on same/similar Test regimen without the Primo?
 
So do you have bloodwork on same/similar Test regimen without the Primo?
The TRT clinic I use does this in house. They do not use Quest or Labcorp. I would have to get it from them.

At this point however, I'm willing to listen to other arguments. To me, estradiol is in range. Perhaps this was the wrong way to look at it. I put my blood work out there in its entirety not to invite mockery, but to foster discussion, legitimate criticism and offers of assistance.
 
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