Nick Walker's Coach scoffs at "shortage" of primo / mast

[RockyP]

I really love this podcast - Kyle and Andrew put out some great content. In this recent clip, Kyle laughed off a listener question re: mast / primo shortages, saying he / his athletes have no issues getting what they need. I always did think that the top athletes had the best connections, likely private sources, etc. But in this market I still wonder where the F they are getting the raws from. There's plenty of mast P out there, though I find it hard to believe Nick Walker is using Mast P 100 / ml - he'd need a 5 cc syringe to get enough in him - especially since he apparently uses close to 1.5 grams of tren and god knows how much test.
I just can't believe there is Mast E to be had...


View: https://youtu.be/UWte1jOiRN0?si=z7372Yubzf-zV-KO

 

[xrayphoton13]

Just gotta know the right people. There's plenty of small American UGLs that still have it. They are starting to dry up though. Ask him the same question in 6 months if things don't change in China and you'll get a different answer

 

[Deadpool99]

Just gotta know the right people. There's plenty of small American UGLs that still have it. They are starting to dry up though. Ask him the same question in 6 months if things don't change in China and you'll get a different answer

Honestly my hot take/unpopular opinion (never touched primo so maybe biased):

Primo’s overrated for its price. It’s a long-term, high-dose compound, and unless you’re deep into contest prep, okay u need every possible advantage where you’re chasing the driest possible look, it just doesn’t justify the cost.

EQ for example gives a similar anabolic return if you manage hematocrit and estrogen properly. Sure, Primo’s cleaner on paper, but for the massive fuck ton of a difference in price, that compound isn't giving you a massive fuck ton of gains compared to EQ.

 

[urmumsurdad30]

well theres more to the world than just China soooo yeah

 

[MadaFacor]

I really love this podcast - Kyle and Andrew put out some great content. In this recent clip, Kyle laughed off a listener question re: mast / primo shortages, saying he / his athletes have no issues getting what they need. I always did think that the top athletes had the best connections, likely private sources, etc. But in this market I still wonder where the F they are getting the raws from. There's plenty of mast P out there, though I find it hard to believe Nick Walker is using Mast P 100 / ml - he'd need a 5 cc syringe to get enough in him - especially since he apparently uses close to 1.5 grams of tren and god knows how much test.
I just can't believe there is Mast E to be had...


View: https://youtu.be/UWte1jOiRN0?si=z7372Yubzf-zV-KO

At that level, they will likely have unlimited access. There has been likely millions of vials in circulation over the last few years and those supplying guys like Nick, are going to make sure they have inventory for guys like Nick.

 

[s2kallday]

EQ for example gives a similar anabolic return if you manage hematocrit and estrogen properly. Sure, Primo’s cleaner on paper, but for the massive fuck ton of a difference in price, that compound isn't giving you a massive fuck ton of gains compared to EQ.

EQ is substantially more anabolic and is "cleaner" as far as sides IMHO. Barely affects lipids in comparison, rarely faked, no dht conversion, ect.

As far as the OP, my moneys on the pros using mast prop 200.

 

[madcap71]

I prefer EQ over primo or mast, personally.
But if you're after mast or primo, you'll find it if you look hard enough

 

[RockyP]

Definitely nothing magical about primo or mast. You can pretty much get into shape with anything. Test + halo / winny / tren with low BF will do it very nicely.

 

[dinfar1337]

likely private sources, etc. But in this market I still wonder where the F they are getting the raws from

raws production isnt out at all, just way smaller scale now.

you can hit your fav raw dealer up, instead of looking at him like a salesman from the supermarket talk to him like hes your drug dealer.

just a simple i will give 1.5 the normal price for x and x raws and he will be up in your ass searching for something for you.

theres no such thing as private sources, some people just like to operate only selling high moq since its less headache selling to ugls or resellers instead of normal people.

theres plenty of new stock going around, just not enough for everybody so access is limited to buyers who buy alot to sell out fast.

the coaches likely takes some offers doing like a big offline group buys organized by themselves for their clients and just end up selling it to his client making hella profit for reliable stock. basically almost all coaches do this

 

[RockyP]

Ya’ll get no lipid issues from EQ?

 

[s2kallday]

Ya’ll get no lipid issues from EQ?

EQ affects my lipids essentially identically to testosterone.

 

[Eddie.]

Ya’ll get no lipid issues from EQ?

I can’t pinpoint how much each drug affects my lipids, once I’ve found that even test skews em I hopped on ezetimibe and essentially added low dose rosuvostatin and never looked back.

Now despite the compounds and the dosages I just go based on bloodwork. If they get too low I’ll take em less frequently, if they get high I’ll increase frequency.

 

[ChemBB]

theres no such thing as private sources

wat

 

[Ghoul]

I can’t pinpoint how much each drug affects my lipids, once I’ve found that even test skews em I hopped on ezetimibe and essentially added low dose rosuvostatin and never looked back.

Now despite the compounds and the dosages I just go based on bloodwork. If they get too low I’ll take em less frequently, if they get high I’ll increase frequency.

What's too low?

 

[Avies48]

raws production isnt out at all, just way smaller scale now.

you can hit your fav raw dealer up, instead of looking at him like a salesman from the supermarket talk to him like hes your drug dealer.

just a simple i will give 1.5 the normal price for x and x raws and he will be up in your ass searching for something for you.

theres no such thing as private sources, some people just like to operate only selling high moq since its less headache selling to ugls or resellers instead of normal people.

theres plenty of new stock going around, just not enough for everybody so access is limited to buyers who buy alot to sell out fast.

the coaches likely takes some offers doing like a big offline group buys organized by themselves for their clients and just end up selling it to his client making hella profit for reliable stock. basically almost all coaches do this

Therein lies the issue tho… money… they want to hold back to reap their losses from the past issue… i know some who are changing prices due to this “shortage”z….

 

[ve79]

Honestly my hot take/unpopular opinion (never touched primo so maybe biased):

Primo’s overrated for its price. It’s a long-term, high-dose compound, and unless you’re deep into contest prep, okay u need every possible advantage where you’re chasing the driest possible look, it just doesn’t justify the cost.

EQ for example gives a similar anabolic return if you manage hematocrit and estrogen properly. Sure, Primo’s cleaner on paper, but for the massive fuck ton of a difference in price, that compound isn't giving you a massive fuck ton of gains compared to EQ.

I agree. Primo dose give you a great look but I can't justify paying that much for it

 

[thejoker]

Shortages or no shortages Nicks conditioning was dog shit, gear protocol was not his downfall.

 

[RockyP]

Shortages or no shortages Nicks conditioning was dog shit, gear protocol was not his downfall.

He looked awful. 6th place was a gift. He could have easily been out of top 10.

He looked much better in the pics / videos a few days / weeks out (his torso lower is just disgustingly wide tho). Does make me wonder that, not the gear per se, but the peaking protocol just went off the rails. Perhaps they used insulin and he spilled over? Idk tho. And you could tell he knew. Even in pre judging he looked like someone just shot his dog. Fell bad for the kid. He should hang it up before he drops dead. He’s been very open about his past trauma. I think we all use this sport to fight demons in one way or the other. But his health has got to be horrible. He should just retire and move on. He’s going to end up like Dallas or Rich

 

[urmumsurdad30]

He looked awful. 6th place was a gift. He could have easily been out of top 10.

He looked much better in the pics / videos a few days / weeks out (his torso lower is just disgustingly wide tho). Does make me wonder that, not the gear per se, but the peaking protocol just went off the rails. Perhaps they used insulin and he spilled over? Idk tho. And you could tell he knew. Even in pre judging he looked like someone just shot his dog. Fell bad for the kid. He should hang it up before he drops dead. He’s been very open about his past trauma. I think we all use this sport to fight demons in one way or the other. But his health has got to be horrible. He should just retire and move on. He’s going to end up like Dallas or Rich

Nicks fuming and Martins laughing hahaha

 

[RockyP]

Nicks fuming and Martins laughing hahaha

Yeah I mean Nick really made a fool of himself. Talking all this shit beforehand. Disrespecting other competitors. Guaranteeing victory. I think in the coming weeks we’ll (once again) see him change coaches and prob be dropped by sponsors. The guy isn’t right in the head. I sympathize with it. But he’s gotta just hang it up. He wasn’t even close this year. He absolutely did not deserve to be in the top 10. All the guys 7–10 looked better than him. He should have swapped places with Goodvito