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What exactly is "Z" score?

Standard deviation above or below same sex / age peers who’ve been tested using the same method as the lab you’re using.

Every lab’s method deviates a little in the way IGF-1 is calculated, based on equipment and protocol. Z is the most precise measurement of where your IGF is compared to normal.

-2 to +2 physiologic range
0 - average
< -2 maybe hypopituitary / adult GH deficiency
> +2 maybe acromegaly (+3 before a concern)

Two tests less than -1, with symptoms of low GH (hard to build muscle, low energy/mood, midsection fat etc) might be a sign of “partial adult growth hormone deficiency” some leading edge endocrinologists will prescribe rHGH for.
 
Standard deviation above or below same sex / age peers who’ve been tested using the same method as the lab you’re using.

Every lab’s method deviates a little in the way IGF-1 is calculated, based on equipment and protocol. Z is the most precise measurement of where your IGF is compared to normal.

-2 to +2 physiologic range
0 - average
< -2 maybe hypopituitary / adult GH deficiency
> +2 maybe acromegaly (+3 before a concern)

Two tests less than -1, with symptoms of low GH (hard to build muscle, low energy/mood, midsection fat etc) might be a sign of “partial adult growth hormone deficiency” some leading edge endocrinologists will prescribe rHGH for.

I need to find these “leading edge endos” asap
 
I need to find these “leading edge endos” asap

Remember this is outside of treatment guidelines, so insurance isn’t going to pay. Hopefully it’ll be in the next revision so it can be covered. Because of legal restrictions on GH prescriptions, an endo has to diagnose a deficiency.

You need a “Functional endocrine clinic”, or contact pituitary.org for a referral to a specific practitioner who deals with partial, symptomatic adult GH deficiency.

Endos willing to do this are easiest to find in the bigger HRT / anti-aging clinics.

When you’re self pay, they can set you up with compounders so a months supply of pharma rHGH will be hundreds, instead of $5-10k for filling the prescription with a name brand.

Examples:

Manhattan HRT - Testosterone, HGH, Hormone Therapy NYC | Anti-Aging Centers



 
Jesus dude you're a freak

Did you ever get a baseline measurement?

Are you making good gainz?
Baseline was 84 natty. When I added Test E it bumped up to 118, and after that I introduced HGH and the numbers started climbing like an elevator with no brakes. Right now I’m sitting at a solid “mid-physique” 175-180 lbs at 5’9. Putting on size has never really been the issue for me, but the goal changed. I used to be 210 lbs, looked like a young grizzly and bulldozed through life, but honestly felt terrible carrying that much weight.

Genetics are whatever. I even did one of those genetic tests and they basically told me my muscles aren’t elite and sports “aren’t recommended” for me, and that gaining muscle would be difficult. So here I am ignoring the paperwork and doing it anyway.
 
Anyone receive Reta 30’s lately? What color are your caps? Red?

Who has gotten Reta 30 recently? What color are your caps?

Thank you. That info will help anyone who has the 40’s and it’s one less color on the list.

I have reds show up, which is probably just fine and they are Reta 30’s…. But then I saw the TB500 is also red.
I’ve had a few people DM me asking if this was ever answered.

I reached out to @TheLobster about the Reta 30 cap color this morning.

Lobster said Reta 30 from November should be yellow caps. I have red caps but ordered the Reta at the end of October. Still talking and trying to find out if the cap color changed between Oct/Nov, or if 30s are red and 40s are yellow.

Will update once this gets clarified.
 
Does lobsters products all come with the nice solid lids like the yellow ones above or do some come with those see through plastic ones like most CN suppliers are using atm?
 
Does lobsters products all come with the nice solid lids like the yellow ones above or do some come with those see through plastic ones like most CN suppliers are using atm?
Everything I have received came with the nice solid lids and they all remove clean no tearing.
 
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