Wuhan Wansheng Biotechnology Co., Ltd. (USA, International)

[nogainz]

First of all thanks for posting actual numbers.
Any change in your weight since then? I'm trying to figure out if the reta alone is improving people's numbers or if it's the weight loss associated with it.

22 lbs of overall weight loss in that timeframe. While substantial, it's fair to say that a 22-lb loss of weight likely contributes to lipid improvements. But a more than 25% reduction in ApoB and a nearly 70% reduction in LP(a) is not attainable from weight loss alone.

Reta is definitely providing a measurable acceleration of improvement in those markers. The only other lipid-friendly protocols in my stack are Gorilla Mind Omega 3 Elixir (the best content/ratio I've found) and Nutricost Citrus Bergamot. Those also might have a hand in some of the reduction, but the above markers are very tough to budge even at single digit percentages. This is kind of insane given the timeframe especially.

 

[nogainz]

Thank you for such a detailed reply. Do they even do any testing themselves? They seem to be one of the more popular sources, but I guess that because they offer ther stuff than peptides aswell.

No worries. They have upwards of a dozen tests for various AAS and peptides here:

Janoshik Analytical

Again, while results like these verify that they are capable of providing high purity/reasonable quantity product, I feel strongly it's a leap to assume this means the average kit we receive will be the same level of either or both. So I would strongly recommend doing your own testing, or at least pursue some sort of group testing, unless there is a recent result posted here from someone other than WWB.

 

[Zarioh]

No worries. They have upwards of a dozen tests for various AAS and peptides here:

Janoshik Analytical

Again, while results like these verify that they are capable of providing high purity/reasonable quantity product, I feel strongly it's a leap to assume this means the average kit we receive will be the same level of either or both. So I would strongly recommend doing your own testing, or at least pursue some sort of group testing, unless there is a recent result posted here from someone other than WWB.

Interesting, gonna check it out, thanks bro.

 

[Alvinq]

22 lbs of overall weight loss in that timeframe. While substantial, it's fair to say that a 22-lb loss of weight likely contributes to lipid improvements. But a more than 25% reduction in ApoB and a nearly 70% reduction in LP(a) is not attainable from weight loss alone.

Reta is definitely providing a measurable acceleration of improvement in those markers. The only other lipid-friendly protocols in my stack are Gorilla Mind Omega 3 Elixir (the best content/ratio I've found) and Nutricost Citrus Bergamot. Those also might have a hand in some of the reduction, but the above markers are very tough to budge even at single digit percentages. This is kind of insane given the timeframe especially.

Again appreciate the stats and info. Thanks man!

 

[Axxium]

I got a slightly different mitochondrial stack from WWB.
I got Mots-C, SS-31 and methylene blue.

I ran 2 vials of the Mots-c first, I titrated up to 5mg/day.
This was a nice energy boost and helped with cardio.

Now I am running SS-31 @ 4mg/day, and I don't really "feel" anything from it but as I understand it I should be subtly improving the health of my mitochondria.

My plan is to run 2 50mg vials of SS-31 at this dose without the others and then run Mots-c 5mg/day again, along with 10mg of MB per day

Why you running 5 mg a day Jesus lol you guys waste so much. Your body doesn’t even need 5 mg a day 2 max lol

 

[nogainz]

Why you running 5 mg a day Jesus lol you guys waste so much. Your body doesn’t even need 5 mg a day 2 max lol

It's aggressive for sure but what research are you basing this on? Even Dean St Mart, who is the reason all of us are running the mito stack, mentions that he pulses a single 5mg dose of MOTS-C once monthly while running SLU & MB daily.

Fair to say based on lack of research everyone is running their own maiden voyage with these compounds, and there's no established dosage or standardized protocol. For instance, Dean has only ever run 600mcg daily of SLU ever. Meanwhile the community has exploded the dosing based on rodent equivalent calculation to justify hundreds of mg daily in some cases.

Nobody knows.

 

[djedo]

Why you running 5 mg a day Jesus lol you guys waste so much. Your body doesn’t even need 5 mg a day 2 max lol

Mate, doses goes up to 10 mg a day in a study,with really great effects on insulin sensitivity and HbA1c.

 

[JPMOTM]

Just placed my second order with them to the UK. Had an issue with a couple of dodgy vial cap crimps on my first order that they sorted no problem.

Couldnt resist getting some 10ml bottles of 100IU HGH!

 

[JPMOTM]

Mate, doses goes up to 10 mg a day in a study,with really great effects on insulin sensitivity and HbA1c.

Just 0.5mg reta every other day dropped my HbA1c and tryglicerides while in a build phase on 4000kcal and 8IU HGH. Definitely a cheaper option if you arent already doing that! Couldn't go over 0.5md EOD otherwise it hit the appetite too hard.

 

[djedo]

Just 0.5mg reta every other day dropped my HbA1c and tryglicerides while in a build phase on 4000kcal and 8IU HGH. Definitely a cheaper option if you arent already doing that! Couldn't go over 0.5md EOD otherwise it hit the appetite too hard.

Reta is amazing, solved my fatty liver in 3 months.Reta,mots c and cardarine will be my go-to stack for next 8-12 weeks. Probably doing 15 mg reta a week, 5 mg/day mots c and cardarine 20mg/day.Wanna see effects on cardio, insulin sensitivity and lipids.

 

[final_prayer]

15mgs of Reta a week is ridiculous. Complete overkill.

 

[BigNate78]

First of all thanks for posting actual numbers.
Any change in your weight since then? I'm trying to figure out if the reta alone is improving people's numbers or if it's the weight loss associated with it.

I dropped 15lbs month and a half. I lift and I make sure I get food in

 

[BigNate78]

Just 0.5mg reta every other day dropped my HbA1c and tryglicerides while in a build phase on 4000kcal and 8IU HGH. Definitely a cheaper option if you arent already doing that! Couldn't go over 0.5md EOD otherwise it hit the appetite too hard.

Micro dosing glps is pointless and makes fluctuations way off than how its suppose to work

 

[djedo]

15mgs of Reta a week is ridiculous. Complete overkill.

Why?

 

[BigNate78]

Reason why not to microdose

 

[sh1n]

So you should switch to another source at reta?

 

[GreatOak]

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Alright Dr Trev.......ha ,

Stable blood plasma levels are just that no matter how you get there! Whether that be by injecting once a week , 3 times or 7!
It's the journey to those stable levels , that we all get to choose, no right or wrong!
If you can handle bigger peaks then hit once a week. wanna smooth the journey out hit 3 ,5 , 7.
Many roads lead to Damascus my friend. Oh & Dr Trev is a tool!

 

[Spectator666]

Why you running 5 mg a day Jesus lol you guys waste so much. Your body doesn’t even need 5 mg a day 2 max lol

Mate, doses goes up to 10 mg a day in a study,with really great effects on insulin sensitivity and HbA1c.

Ha. I am guilty of pulling this protocol out of my ass, but I don't think we really know where the effective dose drops off. I'm not running it right now, maybe I will lower my dose, go less frequently. Do you have a link to something that says you only need 2mg max?

 

[BigNate78]

Alright Dr Trev.......ha ,

Stable blood plasma levels are just that no matter how you get there! Whether that be by injecting once a week , 3 times or 7!
It's the journey to those stable levels , that we all get to choose, no right or wrong!
If you can handle bigger peaks then hit once a week. wanna smooth the journey out hit 3 ,5 , 7.
Many roads lead to Damascus my friend. Oh & Dr Trev is a tool!

Dont know who dr trev is so…. Have fun with that train of thought

 

[Axxium]

15mgs of Reta a week is ridiculous. Complete overkill.

These clowns have no idea I take .5 mg a week and have 8-11 % body fat and lost 18 lbs in a month. Yet they taking 15 mg a week and wasting and feeling like shit with the sides lmao. I feel incredible too. And my heart isn’t afib anymore so if ppl say you don’t get good results on .5 they’re literally retarded and have no clue how Reta truly works & these ppl saying take 10 mg a week just wanna sell bottles and make money.