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[Photon]

MC’s primo looks like a bunch of other vendors primo that all tested good but looks like it came as finished oils from China with the cheap Chinese caps. A whole bunch of it hit the market at the same time as many vendors are selling it and the bottles look nothing like their normal bottles.

It does look like CN oils if you dig deeper..
It's not pure MCT, it's some kinda oil blend which CN sources use...

SSA

Janoshik Analytical

WWB

Janoshik Analytical

Can primo in GSO be more pippy than primo in MCT?

Should be less pippy.
Thicker oils are usually less pippy unless you have some kinda allergy or something. One thing to take note is that majority if not all of the testing is done on MCT in general, not GSO.

 

[Photon]

Hi @Axle Labs

Do you have the TRE400 mg/ml report from Jano for the 011 batch?
Don't see any 2025 TRE400 results on the website.

 

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[Whistles77]

It does look like CN oils if you dig deeper..
It's not pure MCT, it's some kinda oil blend which CN sources use...

SSA

Janoshik Analytical

WWB

Janoshik Analytical

Should be less pippy.
Thicker oils are usually less pippy unless you have some kinda allergy or something. One thing to take note is that majority if not all of the testing is done on MCT in general, not GSO.

MC confirmed reselling Primo on SST

 

[Photon]

MC confirmed reselling Primo on SST

CN Primo.
These vendors need to declare before selling it.
Might as well get it from CN sources that ship US Dom..

 

[Damaged1]

Oh th

CN Primo.
These vendors need to declare before selling it.
Might as well get it from CN sources that ship US Dom..

Oh they finally replied to me and basically confirmed what I had been saying all along.

 

[Damaged1]

Oh th

Oh they finally replied to me and basically confirmed what I had been saying all along.

Yeah I offered that criticism in response. At least they owned it. Other vendors have ignored the question altogether.

 

[Axle Labs]

Feel free to use website!

 

[Axle Labs]

EQ 500mg/mL testing is in.

 

[Axle Labs]

Hi @Axle Labs

Do you have the TRE400 mg/ml report from Jano for the 011 batch?
Don't see any 2025 TRE400 results on the website.

We've had the same TRE raws for a while. I do have the TRE200 testing for the same raws but can send in TRE400 as well once we get more raws for future batches.

 

[Axle Labs]

Test-C 300mg/mL -> 291.48mg/mL

 

[bigstepper]

Anyone sending the PrImo for GCMS?
Saw this interesting report today.

MCT+GSO blend from MC

Janoshik Analytical

I’m not seeing GSO here? Is that not EO?




How We Know EO Is Present

Ethyl oleate shows up on GC-MS not as one single clean peak, but as a family of typical fatty acid ethyl esters, especially:

Matching EO markers in your report:

• (E)-9-Octadecenoic acid ethyl ester – 24.93%
  → This is literally ethyl oleate.
• Octadecanoic acid, ethyl ester – 1.33%
  → Ethyl stearate (common EO impurity).
• Ethyl 9-hexadecenoate – 0.75%
  → Ethyl palmitoleate (another EO-related ester).
• 9,12-Octadecadienoic acid ethyl ester (Z,Z) – 3.14%
  → Ethyl linoleate (normal minor component in EO).

Those four peaks are classic EO fingerprints.

EO always contains a mixture of ethyl esters, dominated by ethyl oleate, exactly as shown in your chromatogram.

 

[Damaged1]

I’m not seeing GSO here? Is that not EO?




How We Know EO Is Present

Ethyl oleate shows up on GC-MS not as one single clean peak, but as a family of typical fatty acid ethyl esters, especially:

Matching EO markers in your report:

• (E)-9-Octadecenoic acid ethyl ester – 24.93%
  → This is literally ethyl oleate.
• Octadecanoic acid, ethyl ester – 1.33%
  → Ethyl stearate (common EO impurity).
• Ethyl 9-hexadecenoate – 0.75%
  → Ethyl palmitoleate (another EO-related ester).
• 9,12-Octadecadienoic acid ethyl ester (Z,Z) – 3.14%
  → Ethyl linoleate (normal minor component in EO).

Those four peaks are classic EO fingerprints.

EO always contains a mixture of ethyl esters, dominated by ethyl oleate, exactly as shown in your chromatogram.

That explains the PIP on those Chinese primo vials.

 

[RockyP]

That explains the PIP on those Chinese primo vials.

Really? I’ve found the WWB primo 200 to be some of the least uncomfortable. I still don’t understand the hardon for EO. Does nothing to my CRP. I know others have issues with it. But guys talk about it like it’s poison and that’s just incorrect.

 

[Damaged1]

Really? I’ve found the WWB primo 200 to be some of the least uncomfortable. I still don’t understand the hardon for EO. Does nothing to my CRP. I know others have issues with it. But guys talk about it like it’s poison and that’s just incorrect.

I’m told people react differently to it and to try a little sub q to see what it does because I guess it can burn for some people.

 

[RockyP]

I’m told people react differently to it and to try a little sub q to see what it does because I guess it can burn for some people.

Yes for sure a lot of people get CRP elevation from it and that is bad and in those folks shouldn’t be used at all. Primo is PIP prone no matter what, especially at 200 / ml. 100 is more tolerable but it’s still a big molecule. I’m not a fan of subcutaneous oils but some guys make it work

 

[Damaged1]

Yes for sure a lot of people get CRP elevation from it and that is bad and in those folks shouldn’t be used at all. Primo is PIP prone no matter what, especially at 200 / ml. 100 is more tolerable but it’s still a big molecule. I’m not a fan of subcutaneous oils but some guys make it work

I won’t do subq oils but was told it’s a good way to judge reaction.

 

[Damaged1]

Another strange thing about this batch of Chinese finished oil primo is I will get halfway through a vial as I do 1 ml daily with just normal primo pip then all of a sudden from the same vial I get this crushing pip like crushing as is in can barely walk and flu like symptoms. Makes no fucking sense to me.

 

[RockyP]

Another strange thing about this batch of Chinese finished oil primo is I will get halfway through a vial as I do 1 ml daily with just normal primo pip then all of a sudden from the same vial I get this crushing pip like crushing as is in can barely walk and flu like symptoms. Makes no fucking sense to me.

Hmm. I might get a hsCRP drawn. It may not be PIP per se it may be a systemic inflammation from a build up of the primo (10 day half-life so 40-50 days to steady state).

 

[Damaged1]

Hmm. I might get a hsCRP drawn. It may not be PIP per se it may be a systemic inflammation from a build up of the primo (10 day half-life so 40-50 days to steady state).

I’m bringing primo down and raising EQ anyway. Tired of the primo roulette.