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[Savagesteve]

Really? I’ve found the WWB primo 200 to be some of the least uncomfortable. I still don’t understand the hardon for EO. Does nothing to my CRP. I know others have issues with it. But guys talk about it like it’s poison and that’s just incorrect.

EO gives me baseball size lumps and extreme pip…just like some guys can’t use migylol carrier and I absolutely love it

 

[Damaged1]

EO gives me baseball size lumps and extreme pip…just like some guys can’t use migylol carrier and I absolutely love it

Yeah that’s why I think that primo is pippy.

 

[Photon]

I’m not seeing GSO here? Is that not EO?




How We Know EO Is Present

Ethyl oleate shows up on GC-MS not as one single clean peak, but as a family of typical fatty acid ethyl esters, especially:

Matching EO markers in your report:

• (E)-9-Octadecenoic acid ethyl ester – 24.93%
  → This is literally ethyl oleate.
• Octadecanoic acid, ethyl ester – 1.33%
  → Ethyl stearate (common EO impurity).
• Ethyl 9-hexadecenoate – 0.75%
  → Ethyl palmitoleate (another EO-related ester).
• 9,12-Octadecadienoic acid ethyl ester (Z,Z) – 3.14%
  → Ethyl linoleate (normal minor component in EO).

Those four peaks are classic EO fingerprints.

EO always contains a mixture of ethyl esters, dominated by ethyl oleate, exactly as shown in your chromatogram.

It has no EO.
Not all CN oils have EO.
It's just too expensive, to test all of them to see which oil and which specific batch contains it. You don't even know what you receive most of the time.

SSA for e.g did not have EO in their U600 vials for a particular batch.

Janoshik Analytical

EO shows up on the report if present

Janoshik Analytical

It's a MCT+Vegetable oil blend of some kind, probably food grade as well used by the CN to keep costs low. WWB has had Primo in stock since the start of the year, if anything I'd guess it might be from them. I think its 75$ for a vial?

 

[Damaged1]

It has no EO.
Not all CN oils have EO.
It's just too expensive, to test all of them to see which oil and which specific batch contains it. You don't even know what you receive most of the time.

SSA for e.g did not have EO in their U600 vials for a particular batch.

Janoshik Analytical

EO shows up on the report if present
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Janoshik Analytical

It's a MCT+Vegetable oil blend of some kind, probably food grade as well to keep costs low.

Good god, vegetable oil? Right off the grocery store shelf.

 

[Dial It In]

I’m not seeing GSO here? Is that not EO?




How We Know EO Is Present

Ethyl oleate shows up on GC-MS not as one single clean peak, but as a family of typical fatty acid ethyl esters, especially:

Matching EO markers in your report:

• (E)-9-Octadecenoic acid ethyl ester – 24.93%
  → This is literally ethyl oleate.
• Octadecanoic acid, ethyl ester – 1.33%
  → Ethyl stearate (common EO impurity).
• Ethyl 9-hexadecenoate – 0.75%
  → Ethyl palmitoleate (another EO-related ester).
• 9,12-Octadecadienoic acid ethyl ester (Z,Z) – 3.14%
  → Ethyl linoleate (normal minor component in EO).

Those four peaks are classic EO fingerprints.

EO always contains a mixture of ethyl esters, dominated by ethyl oleate, exactly as shown in your chromatogram.

That label font looks like another label I’ve seen

 

[RockyP]

It’s unclear what their special sauce is. But given how popular and widely used their products are I do believe we’d be hearing about abscesses and other bad shit from pinning their gear if there were widespread QC issues. I haven’t seen any such reports at least not on this board. Not saying it doesn’t happen but at some point one needs to ask “where are the bodies?” If we’re going to start taking about endotoxins and whatnot I think that’s applicable to all UGL gear that isn’t specifically tested for such.

 

[Dial It In]

It’s unclear what their special sauce is. But given how popular and widely used their products are I do believe we’d be hearing about abscesses and other bad shit from pinning their gear. I haven’t seen any such reports at least not on this board. Not saying it doesn’t happen but at some point one needs to ask “where are the bodies?”

Dead bodies tell no tales. This could also be a very recent thing popping up. Not in the history of gear of course just what we see coming around with certain sources.

 

[RockyP]

Dead bodies tell no tales

I agree. And I know everyone hates china. But it’s still capitalism. They are doing what they do in all industries. They are making products of comparable quality for a fraction of the price. I’m not a china oil champion. But I do value rational thought.

 

[Photon]

It’s unclear what their special sauce is. But given how popular and widely used their products are I do believe we’d be hearing about abscesses and other bad shit from pinning their gear if there were widespread QC issues. I haven’t seen any such reports at least not on this board. Not saying it doesn’t happen but at some point one needs to ask “where are the bodies?” If we’re going to start taking about endotoxins and whatnot I think that’s applicable to all UGL gear that isn’t specifically tested for such.

I personally have no issue injecting CN oils. No lumps or elevations in hsCRP. Only issue I have is the shorter shelf life of it which is offset with how cheap it is. Prior to this year i don't think there was any way of identifying if a vendor resold CN oils.

But if a vendor is reselling it as MCT then it's just wrong..

 

[RockyP]

I personally have no issue injecting CN oils. No lumps or elevations in hsCRP. Only issue I have is the shorter shelf life of it which is offset with how cheap it is. Prior to this year i don't think there was any way of identifying if a vendor resold CN oils.

But if a vendor is reselling it as MCT then it's just wrong..

Agree 100%.

Speaking of china, just received my peroxide test strips from alibaba seller. Will be putting those to good use soon

 

[newguy2]

That label font looks like another label I’ve seen

Yeah a lot of people were pointing that out when the other brand first dropped.

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

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How nattys on instagram think gear is brewed

Reality: How gear is brewed…

 

[hungr4mor]

We reimburse / reship anytime a wrong item is sent

What do you do when you cancel after payment? Since you did me dirty like that

 

[Tommygunz1401]

What do you do when you cancel after payment? Since you did me dirty like that

Someone else had same issue recently few pages back said order was still sent out.

 

[Axle Labs]

What do you do when you cancel after payment? Since you did me dirty like that

DM or email us if your order is marked as cancelled despite you sending payment. Means your payment wasn't detected.

 

[Axle Labs]

Mast-E raws testing is in! Will mark it back in stock tomorrow or tonight.

(You can order it on our other brand now though if you know the name).

 

[accidentaljedi173]

Mast-E raws testing is in! Will mark it back in stock tomorrow or tonight.

(You can order it on our other brand now though if you know the name).

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Ah, the good ole "other brand"

 

[hungr4mor]

DM or email us if your order is marked as cancelled despite you sending payment. Means your payment wasn't detected.

You fixed it! Solid as always! Thanks!!!

 

[RockyP]

Mast-E raws testing is in! Will mark it back in stock tomorrow or tonight.

(You can order it on our other brand now though if you know the name).

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No run of 400/ml this time? Only seeing 200 as in stock

 

[Axle Labs]

You fixed it! Solid as always! Thanks!!!

Glad to hear