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Yes I'll 100% post them -

I'm planning to hop back on cycle in a week, I've got a lot of Primals primo100 left and I'll prob kill some of that first as I ease into the cycle, then what I think I'm gonna do is run only WWB's primo200 for like a 6ish weeks, get bloodwork, then run primals pirmo200 for like another 6ish and get bloodwork. Maybe I'll make a thread or something but I'll keep yall updated if youre interested! I'm curious to see how things change (if they do at all) with the EO-based WWB primo and the BA/BB only primal oil.
WWB is Hepius?
 
Yes I'll 100% post them -

I'm planning to hop back on cycle in a week, I've got a lot of Primals primo100 left and I'll prob kill some of that first as I ease into the cycle, then what I think I'm gonna do is run only WWB's primo200 for like a 6ish weeks, get bloodwork, then run primals pirmo200 for like another 6ish and get bloodwork. Maybe I'll make a thread or something but I'll keep yall updated if youre interested! I'm curious to see how things change (if they do at all) with the EO-based WWB primo and the BA/BB only primal oil.
WWis Hepius?
The irony is that the Chinese EO containing Primo200 is smooth as butter. A lot of the domestic stuff I’ve tried from reputable vendors is…spicy.
could we just squirt some ro into that other primo and tame it down?
 
Yeah def - If i were primal and I knew that I brewed my own stuff, I would be 100% confident the tests will come back with 0 EO and wound't even resond to accusations that it wasn't. And since none of the other domestic sources have primo there is definitely an incentive to get it on the market as fast as possible. If they had to test the raws first, they'd have to wait a week for jano to send them the confirmation before they'd be able to brew - but if they just brewed right away and sent a sample to jano, that confirms their shit is good and they can put it on the website right away.

I think its good that ppl on this forum are super critical tho because it keeps standards high. Like so many people shit on primal for the cyp 50 overdose and the vials and the anadrol thing etc. which is great bc it keeps them accountable, and I still think Primal is one of the best domestic vendors in terms of product quality + customer service + delivery times. I don't think Primal would risk their reputation they've built and all the shit they've taken on rebottling chinese primo, but ig we will see.
I mean to be fair, what reputation? They are Internet black market drug vendors who started this thread July. So that whole 5 months of reputation?
 
I mean to be fair, what reputation? They are Internet black market drug vendors who started this thread July. So that whole 5 months of reputation?
Valid point, but I think Primal's done a good job of responding to the community and being transparent about a majority of everything they do. And I think were a bit spoiled on meso, most sources on other forums don't test shit or gaf about anything lmao
 
Isn't heipus and stromusc like the same thing tho? just different "branded" chinese oils? And that they both use EO for like all of their products?

Thats what I've always assumed but I'm not 100% sure
Yes. WWB = Hepius = stromusc. They all use EO in most of their oils. If you tolerate EO it’s a feature not a bug. The high conc gear with EO is more tolerable for most people. This is the smart business move and the Chinese are smart. Don’t tell anyone but there are more than a few domestic vendors doing the same exact thing (various brands coming from the same place).
 
Isn't heipus and stromusc like the same thing tho? just different "branded" chinese oils? And that they both use EO for like all of their products?

Thats what I've always assumed but I'm not 100% sure

Yes, same.
CN vendors don't brew, they just resell AAS. With the exception of QSC, all of them are just reselling hepius or stromus products, which is also why they are usually clueless as to what goes into each product. (Composition oil solvent etc)
 
Yes. WWB = Hepius = stromusc. They all use EO in most of their oils. If you tolerate EO it’s a feature not a bug. The high conc gear with EO is more tolerable for most people. This is the smart business move and the Chinese are smart. Don’t tell anyone but there are more than a few domestic vendors doing the same exact thing (various brands coming from the same place).
Ok thanks for clearing that up! In my experience I actually like EO esp with the higher conc stuff, but guaiacol fucks me up and I'll never touch anything with that stuff. I've used TNE 100mg/ml with that and would get the absolute worst pip. Hopefully chinese sources aren't putting that shit in normal products.
 
Yes. WWB = Hepius = stromusc. They all use EO in most of their oils. If you tolerate EO it’s a feature not a bug. The high conc gear with EO is more tolerable for most people. This is the smart business move and the Chinese are smart. Don’t tell anyone but there are more than a few domestic vendors doing the same exact thing (various brands coming from the same place).

I have no issue with EO so I won't say much, however it does have a short shelf life. CN products are great if you don't plan to keep them and are on a budget. Buy, use, throw or replace. Obviously get it tested.

They also don't use pure MCT, they also use some kinda cheap oil blend with MCT and vegetable oil (what do you expect for that price lol).
 
I have no issue with EO so I won't say much, however it does have a short shelf life. CN products are great if you don't plan to keep them and are on a budget. Buy, use, throw or replace. Obviously get it tested.

They also don't use pure MCT, they also use some kinda cheap oil blend with MCT and vegetable oil (what do you expect for that price lol).
Same. Not my cup of tea. I like a long shelf life. And they also use shit materials (glass / stoppers).
 
Transparency update regarding Primo E inventory

I want to give a clear and honest update about our recent Primo E 100mg and 200mg situation so there’s no confusion on anyone’s end.

Over the last week we’ve been reorganizing all of our raw materials as we prepare for our upcoming relocation (again). During that process, we unexpectedly came across just under 300g of our previous Primo E raw batch. A batch we fully believed had been used up months ago.

Instead of explaining that right away, my instinct was to say “new raws just landed” because I didn’t want it to sound like we’re careless with inventory. Saying “we found raws we thought were gone” can come across sloppy, even though these raws were already from a , tested , trusted, previously validated batch.

To Clarify:
These were not new raws. They were part of our earlier Primo E batch that had already passed blind HPLC testing.

Here’s what actually happened on the business side - Primo E 200mg consistently sells much faster than 100mg. We are still waiting on a fresh raw shipment to arrive. Rather than having zero Primo available still, we used the remaining 300g to produce a small run of Primo E 200mg and Primo E 100mg to keep customers supplied with their favorite product in the meantime. This approach helped maintain inventory flow and ensured our customers weren’t left waiting during the transition period.

Nothing was done with untested materials, and nothing was rushed out of desperation. It was simply a business decision to keep shelves stocked using an already verified batch while our new shipment is incoming.

I’m sharing the real story because transparency matters. Even if the full explanation isn’t glamorous, honesty will always come first here. Which I’ll make sure to stand on here on out!

If anyone has questions about batch numbers, testing, or anything related to these releases, feel free to reach out anytime!
 
Transparency update regarding Primo E inventory

I want to give a clear and honest update about our recent Primo E 100mg and 200mg situation so there’s no confusion on anyone’s end.

Over the last week we’ve been reorganizing all of our raw materials as we prepare for our upcoming relocation (again). During that process, we unexpectedly came across just under 300g of our previous Primo E raw batch. A batch we fully believed had been used up months ago.

Instead of explaining that right away, my instinct was to say “new raws just landed” because I didn’t want it to sound like we’re careless with inventory. Saying “we found raws we thought were gone” can come across sloppy, even though these raws were already from a , tested , trusted, previously validated batch.

To Clarify:
These were not new raws. They were part of our earlier Primo E batch that had already passed blind HPLC testing.

Here’s what actually happened on the business side - Primo E 200mg consistently sells much faster than 100mg. We are still waiting on a fresh raw shipment to arrive. Rather than having zero Primo available still, we used the remaining 300g to produce a small run of Primo E 200mg and Primo E 100mg to keep customers supplied with their favorite product in the meantime. This approach helped maintain inventory flow and ensured our customers weren’t left waiting during the transition period.

Nothing was done with untested materials, and nothing was rushed out of desperation. It was simply a business decision to keep shelves stocked using an already verified batch while our new shipment is incoming.

I’m sharing the real story because transparency matters. Even if the full explanation isn’t glamorous, honesty will always come first here. Which I’ll make sure to stand on here on out!

If anyone has questions about batch numbers, testing, or anything related to these releases, feel free to reach out anytime!

Does that mean the $1k+in primo that I got won’t fuck me over after all
 
Transparency update regarding Primo E inventory

I’m sharing the real story because transparency matters. Even if the full explanation isn’t glamorous, honesty will always come first here. Which I’ll make sure to stand on here on out!

If anyone has questions about batch numbers, testing, or anything related to these releases, feel free to reach out anytime!
Honestly will come first only when you’re caught up in it. Let us know on the GCMS, let’s put it to rest. Really are looking sloppy asf going back and forth on your word.
 
Transparency update regarding Primo E inventory

I want to give a clear and honest update about our recent Primo E 100mg and 200mg situation so there’s no confusion on anyone’s end.

Over the last week we’ve been reorganizing all of our raw materials as we prepare for our upcoming relocation (again). During that process, we unexpectedly came across just under 300g of our previous Primo E raw batch. A batch we fully believed had been used up months ago.

Instead of explaining that right away, my instinct was to say “new raws just landed” because I didn’t want it to sound like we’re careless with inventory. Saying “we found raws we thought were gone” can come across sloppy, even though these raws were already from a , tested , trusted, previously validated batch.

To Clarify:
These were not new raws. They were part of our earlier Primo E batch that had already passed blind HPLC testing.

Here’s what actually happened on the business side - Primo E 200mg consistently sells much faster than 100mg. We are still waiting on a fresh raw shipment to arrive. Rather than having zero Primo available still, we used the remaining 300g to produce a small run of Primo E 200mg and Primo E 100mg to keep customers supplied with their favorite product in the meantime. This approach helped maintain inventory flow and ensured our customers weren’t left waiting during the transition period.

Nothing was done with untested materials, and nothing was rushed out of desperation. It was simply a business decision to keep shelves stocked using an already verified batch while our new shipment is incoming.

I’m sharing the real story because transparency matters. Even if the full explanation isn’t glamorous, honesty will always come first here. Which I’ll make sure to stand on here on out!

If anyone has questions about batch numbers, testing, or anything related to these releases, feel free to reach out anytime!
So saying the raws weren’t tested. The raws were actually tested previously? Or they weren’t tested previously either? And just basing purity off of HPLC

No one would care if you actually came across a bag of raws at random lol. This whole thing sounds worse.
 
Transparency update regarding Primo E inventory

I want to give a clear and honest update about our recent Primo E 100mg and 200mg situation so there’s no confusion on anyone’s end.

Over the last week we’ve been reorganizing all of our raw materials as we prepare for our upcoming relocation (again). During that process, we unexpectedly came across just under 300g of our previous Primo E raw batch. A batch we fully believed had been used up months ago.

Instead of explaining that right away, my instinct was to say “new raws just landed” because I didn’t want it to sound like we’re careless with inventory. Saying “we found raws we thought were gone” can come across sloppy, even though these raws were already from a , tested , trusted, previously validated batch.

To Clarify:
These were not new raws. They were part of our earlier Primo E batch that had already passed blind HPLC testing.

Here’s what actually happened on the business side - Primo E 200mg consistently sells much faster than 100mg. We are still waiting on a fresh raw shipment to arrive. Rather than having zero Primo available still, we used the remaining 300g to produce a small run of Primo E 200mg and Primo E 100mg to keep customers supplied with their favorite product in the meantime. This approach helped maintain inventory flow and ensured our customers weren’t left waiting during the transition period.

Nothing was done with untested materials, and nothing was rushed out of desperation. It was simply a business decision to keep shelves stocked using an already verified batch while our new shipment is incoming.

I’m sharing the real story because transparency matters. Even if the full explanation isn’t glamorous, honesty will always come first here. Which I’ll make sure to stand on here on out!

If anyone has questions about batch numbers, testing, or anything related to these releases, feel free to reach out anytime!
srsly?

I’m really trying to like you, but you make it so damn hard. This is such a crazy story. So you lied to us so you wouldn’t appear incompetent?
 
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