HGH question

[Zc7219]

30M 6’3 230lb 15%

Just received latest bloodwork and I’ve noticed a trend over the last 3 years. My IGF has consistently been 60-73 and Z score a -2. To me the results look like I’m bottom of the barrel when it comes to GH production.


My question is if I was to start using 3-4 IU would it be that much of a game changer for me with my levels being so low?

Every post I read about 2-3 IU people say it’s mainly just faster hair/nail growth. Will I notice anything else other than that?

Thanks guys

 

[Ghoul]

Since exogenous GH stops natural production, for the average, z score 0, 2iu likely puts them modestly higher than where they started, with moderate effects.

It would put your GH far higher than where it likely currently is. I’d expect a much more significant benefit than average (but GH is still slow, so be patient, a few months may be needed to see real quality of life improvements).

On the other hand, if IGF doesn’t rise, you have a some other issue impairing GH to IGF-1 conversion. Liver issues, inflammation, e2 too low etc. Have you checked those markers.?

 

[Zc7219]

Since exogenous GH stops natural production, for the average, z score 0, 2iu likely puts them modestly higher than where they started, with moderate effects.

It would put your GH far higher than where it currently is. I’d expect a much more significant benefit than average (but GH is still slow, so be patient, a few months may be needed to see real quality of life improvements).

Are there any “sides” associated with low HGH production?

With low test it was very obvious. But I can’t say I’ve noticed anything from low igf. but I’m also not sure what to look for.

 

[Ghoul]

Are there any “sides” associated with low HGH production?

With low test it was very obvious. But I can’t say I’ve noticed anything from low igf. but I’m also not sure what to look for.

Central adiposity is the most visible sign. A “gut” even when not very overweight.

 

[explodingHeart]

Central adiposity is the most visible sign. A “gut” even when not very overweight.

What about the inverse? My shoe size is 2 sizes higher than predicted for my height. Before ever taking GH. Ankle size is 10 inch circumference while lean.

 

[sim]

30M 6’3 230lb 15%

Just received latest bloodwork and I’ve noticed a trend over the last 3 years. My IGF has consistently been 60-73 and Z score a -2. To me the results look like I’m bottom of the barrel when it comes to GH production.


My question is if I was to start using 3-4 IU would it be that much of a game changer for me with my levels being so low?

Every post I read about 2-3 IU people say it’s mainly just faster hair/nail growth. Will I notice anything else other than that?

Thanks guys

My IGF was lower than yours and I've been running 2IUs and it basically tripled mine after several months of use. I do get sides like water retention and CTS but it isn't too bad. Muscle fullness is improved but whether it has any improvement on hypertrophy I can't say. Also notice some moderate leaning out without changing cals or increasing cardio.

I recently switched to 5IUs 3x/week on the days I lift. Taken pre bed and it has a dramatic improvement on sleep. Wake up a bit groggy but I could easily sleep 8-10 hours. Also water retention and CTS seem to have subsided so I'll stick with this to see how things pan out over the next few months.

 

[rtrnofbesoge]

For perspective my IGF 1 levels were at 434 from 5iu, can't remember my GH level at the time but I'm sure it was high also

 

[Ghoul]

For perspective my IGF 1 levels were at 434 from 5iu, can't remember my GH level at the time but I'm sure it was high also

What age?

 

[rtrnofbesoge]

39