Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic

Get your e2 checked.
Posting something I'd expect to hear from SSRI'd out chick at the bar is a bad sign.
Why do you guys post if you don't have anything substantial to say? I didn't insult anyone. So why don't you just shut up and mind your own business. What kind of toxic behavior is this? Stupid kids.

PS: Thanks for worrying about my bloodwork but it's perfectly fine ;)
 
Why do you guys post if you don't have anything substantial to say? I didn't insult anyone. So why don't you just shut up and mind your own business. What kind of toxic behavior is this? Stupid kids.

PS: Thanks for worrying about my bloodwork but it's perfectly fine ;)
You're mistaken, and if you go back to the beginning you'll maybe see the full picture.

You made statements about the source having a verifiable address for return shipments... Does that make sense really? These packages are shipped in a certain way and I'm not going to void opsec by explaining it to you in detail.

But somebody recently received your package unfortunately, while they more than likely have no clue what it is, they could equally be a Nancy and contact authorities out of concern, this is how things happen. Being an optimist I hope some gym goer just got a gift.

But you stated some pretty dumb shit. You're on Meso, and stated you're not new to this. How did you think you would receive response? This isn't a babysitting forum. Nobody is going to hold your hand and console your loss. It's happened to damn near everybody here and it's a risk.

For insight I'm participating in a thread where legitimacy is still being tested for sourcing. I took an inherent risk just recently while knowing of legitimate vendors. I'm hoping I did my diligence, I vetted everything I could including there reviews, ratings, and status in the market. I spent a large sum of money, for the better of the community knowing it could be a loss, also knowing it could be a win for everyone because the pricing is stocking wholesale. I accept the loss if it occurs. I won't cry over and over like you did. Instead I'll come back to that thread humble and notify everyone else to avoid.
 
Why do you guys post if you don't have anything substantial to say? I didn't insult anyone. So why don't you just shut up and mind your own business. What kind of toxic behavior is this? Stupid kids.

PS: Thanks for worrying about my bloodwork but it's perfectly fine ;)
You're not gonna get preferential treatment here like you do at whatever high school you attend hate to break it to you..
 
Why do you guys post if you don't have anything substantial to say? I didn't insult anyone. So why don't you just shut up and mind your own business. What kind of toxic behavior is this? Stupid kids.

PS: Thanks for worrying about my bloodwork but it's perfectly fine ;)
Ok, so what exactly are you looking for here? Sympathy? A group hug? Or do you think posting this will suddenly make Tracy change his personality?

You knew who you ordered from and how this usually goes. Tracy being Tracy isn’t news. Don’t know how to use BTC? You’re an idiot. Don’t like the product or service? Eat shit. Same script, different day.

Real advice, no toxicity: take the L, mentally write off the $400, and move on. Plenty of guys here paid way more for their “forum education.” This isn’t bullying, it’s just experience talking.
 
Do we have a consensus about the type of water for reconstituting hgh? I've saw the jano video saying it doesn't matter if it's sterile/saline/bac water, and it's true that we don't have bac water in europe.

I've only used bac water for all of my peptides till now but since qsc doesn't have it I don't wanna order separately and thinking of buying sterile water from the pharmacy made for injections. I'm sure it will be ok for GH if I use the vial in 6 days, but how about reta if it takes more than 2 weeks? Thanks
 
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Do we have a consensus about the type of water for reconstituting hgh? I've saw the jano video saying it doesn't matter if it's sterile/saline/bac water, and it's true that we don't have bac water in europe.

I've only used bac water for all of my peptides till now but since qsc doesn't have it I don't wanna order separately and thinking of buying sterile water from the pharmacy made for injections. I'm sure it will be ok for GH if I use the vial in 6 days, but how above reta if it takes more than 2 weeks? Thanks
Mate, Learn to DIY.... Real f...ing easy process...

And then you know what kind/quality , water, ba, filter, vials you used.....
 
Maybe i am - or maybe you have a short memory of what you put in your post of your own words....

This quote is what I was referring to....

Fellow European, that is giving you an easy solution to that problem...
That was not my question, you ignored everything else I wrote and made your DIY point about that which is totally unrelated. I said we don't have bac water in europe to imply that bac water is not necessarily needed thus not being used in europe, which was jano's point as well.

I then said I'm not gonna use bac water anymore and go for pharma sterile water due to convenience which will be good if I use up a vial in a relatively short term, and then my question was if sterile water would still be good/safe if I use it for reta which usually takes more than 2 weeks to finish up a vial

And the first question about the consensus of what type of water to use for GH was there for someone to correct me if I'm wrong about any water being good to use, I did not in any shape ask where or how to get/make bac water
 
That was not my question, you ignored everything else I wrote and made your DIY point about that which is totally unrelated. I said we don't have bac water in europe to imply that bac water is not necessarily needed thus not being used in europe, which was jano's point as well.

I then said I'm not gonna use bac water anymore and go for pharma sterile water due to convenience which will be good if I use up a vial in a relatively short term, and then my question was if sterile water would still be good/safe if I use it for reta which usually takes more than 2 weeks to finish up a vial
And he gave you a logical answer especially with the RETA being multi-dose for an extended period.

DIY...

Relax man, if you don't want answers to what you clearly posted as a question, don't post it. Nobody cares to read your shit when you respond like you did.

Anybody reading that is thinking your inquiring to want an answer.
 
That's the thing I literally didn't ask that, I can get bac if I want online, but I won't if it's not needed to, which is what I'm actually asking,

You're telling me to make my own bac water when my question is if bac water is really needed, does that sound like a good answer or are both of you lacking basic reading comprehension?
 
That's the thing I literally didn't ask that, I can get bac if I want online, but I won't if it's not needed to, which is what I'm actually asking,

You're telling me to make my own bac water when my question is if bac water is really needed, does that sound like a good answer or are both of you lacking basic reading comprehension?
It's called bacteriostatic water. That means the amount of bacteria is kept static. It stops new bacterial growth.

Without it 24 hours at room temperature or 48 hours refrigerated. The bacteria WILL inter the vial and they will start to eat and degrade the peptide.

You can make your own bacteriostatic water rather simply. You need water for injection and benzyl alcohol.

If you have ever tried to grow mushrooms you would understand that bacteria is everywhere and it's impossible to stop it no mater how sterile your technique is.

So to answer your question directly : yes if you want to make a multidose vial bacteriostatic water is a necessity.
 
Do we have a consensus about the type of water for reconstituting hgh?
You asked right here, Dipshit

I'm sure it will be ok for GH if I use the vial in 6 days, but how about reta if it takes more than 2 weeks? Thanks
Once again Dipshit.

That's the thing I literally didn't ask that, I can get bac if I want online, but I won't if it's not needed to, which is what I'm actually asking,
Read the top 2. Dipshit


You're telling me to make my own bac water when my question is if bac water is really needed, does that sound like a good answer or are both of you lacking basic reading comprehension?
Do you, I refer to the top questions dumb ass.
 
You're mistaken, and if you go back to the beginning you'll maybe see the full picture.

You made statements about the source having a verifiable address for return shipments... Does that make sense really? These packages are shipped in a certain way and I'm not going to void opsec by explaining it to you in detail.

So the thing is, the one responsible for anything that goes wrong should be the one who takes the loss. In this case it clearly wasn't my fault and obviously I am not the only one. QSC sensing out shitty packed goods is a problem. And I just wanted to warn the people that consider buying from QSC.

I could geht H36 for 100-120 dollar (with reship guarantee) but not EU domestic, which why I ordered with QSC. If I had know that the service is this awful and that Tracy is such a wanker with no morality at all, I wouldn't have done it. That's why I came here.

Tracy told me he would look after the parcel and see if it can be recovered. Which was a lie. What would you think about that?
 
It's called bacteriostatic water. That means the amount of bacteria is kept static. It stops new bacterial growth.

Without it 24 hours at room temperature or 48 hours refrigerated. The bacteria WILL inter the vial and they will start to eat and degrade the peptide.

You can make your own bacteriostatic water rather simply. You need water for injection and benzyl alcohol.

If you have ever tried to grow mushrooms you would understand that bacteria is everywhere and it's impossible to stop it no mater how sterile your technique is.

So to answer your question directly : yes if you want to make a multidose vial bacteriostatic water is a necessity.
do your research, your about 10 years behind with this broscience; nothing you said is remotely true or supported by any science; the bacteria doesn't magically enter a vial and bac water is no better at keeping a vial bacteria free than simple saline, and bac water isn't needed if proper sanitation is used when handling the vial
You asked right here, Dipshit


Once again Dipshit.


Read the top 2. Dipshit



Do you, I refer to the top questions dumb ass.
you're so stupid I'm not even gonna bother to answer to your response or continue arguing with you
 
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do your research, your about 10 years behind with this broscience; nothing you said is remotely true or supported by any science; the bacteria doesn't magically enter a vial and bac water is no better at keeping a vial bacteria free than simple saline, and bac water isn't needed if proper sanitation is used when handling the vial

you're so stupid I'm not even gonna bother to answer to your response or continue arguing with you
How do you know that there isn't already bacteria inside the vial? Is it perfectly sterile?

Water is one of the best mediums for bacteria to grow.

The Zydus HCG I got came with saline water and said discard the unused portion.

Can you contact them and tell them that they are behind the science? Maybe you can be their lead research scientist.
 
do your research, your about 10 years behind with this broscience; nothing you said is remotely true or supported by any science; the bacteria doesn't magically enter a vial and bac water is no better at keeping a vial bacteria free than simple saline or needed if proper sanitation is used when handling it

you're so stupid I'm not even gonna bother to answer to your response or continue arguing with you
It's best not, I'm good at hurting Internet babies feelings. Being wrong sucks when it's so easily pointed out.

Benzyl alcohol disrupts bacterial cell membranes, stops ATP generation, inhibits replication and prevents biofilm formation.

So when bacteria enter from air, stopper puncture, syringe contact, they cannot multiply. They die off over time instead of exploding into millions. That tiny amount of benzyl alcohol is the entire magic. It does not sterilize, it prevents bacteria from reproducing. Bacteriostatic water preventing vial contamination is real established medical science, not broscience.


Best wishes cupcake. You're another bright burnt out lightbulb.
 
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That's the thing I literally didn't ask that, I can get bac if I want online, but I won't if it's not needed to, which is what I'm actually asking,

You're telling me to make my own bac water when my question is if bac water is really needed, does that sound like a good answer or are both of you lacking basic reading comprehension?
Bac water is not needed.

The fill tank on your local toilet should suffice for multi use injection solution
 
So the thing is, the one responsible for anything that goes wrong should be the one who takes the loss. In this case it clearly wasn't my fault and obviously I am not the only one. QSC sensing out shitty packed goods is a problem. And I just wanted to warn the people that consider buying from QSC.

I could geht H36 for 100-120 dollar (with reship guarantee) but not EU domestic, which why I ordered with QSC. If I had know that the service is this awful and that Tracy is such a wanker with no morality at all, I wouldn't have done it. That's why I came here.

Tracy told me he would look after the parcel and see if it can be recovered. Which was a lie. What would you think about that?
You do know his history correct? Filtered the thread from page 1? It'll tell you everything you needed to know.

It's unfortunate this happened to you. It's happened to everyone like I said. Hard lessons, learned the hard way stick to the memory best. Look at his demeanor in this thread and think if that's someone you'd do business with. Many do, many did, many will, and many won't.

There's people here still waiting to see if he'll clear up orders that never got filled. Meso is one platform. He's going to make money somewhere, so many choose to do business with him still. Years ago Meso would have eaten him alive. All the new people like you perpetuate this behavior so why leave now...
 
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