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[Ateam2023]

I don't follow. Where's the data? A few guys said this or that happened, and that's all of it in a nutshell

I'm not talking about this thread specifically dumb ass , if you look through and use the search function you'll see a lot of people use this particular compound for E2 control, you could also pull it up on the Internet and find information too, but I think you're too smooth brain to do that you just wanna argue, Have a Grateful Day,

 

[powdered_toast_man]

I'm not talking about this thread specifically dumb ass , if you look through and use the search function you'll see a lot of people use this particular compound for E2 control, you could also pull it up on the Internet and find information too, but I think you're too smooth brain to do that you just wanna argue, Have a Grateful Day,

I could totally use google to find a lot of dumbfucks on reddit saying that. I agree.

 

[oldage]

U cant fix stupid

 

[newguy2]

I made the switch from easy touch to these and I will tell you that I noticed a big difference because I poke through two stoppers per syringe and I can't tell if it gets dull or not very sharp , when I used to use easy touch they seem to dull more IME , so I'm also sold on these true plus syringes and they're pretty reasonably priced

Thanks for the feedback. I do the same with easytouch and agree. I just stocked up on them but will give these a try when I run out.

 

[powdered_toast_man]

U cant fix stupid

Tell me about. All of these mfers saying primo "lowers e2" but won't say it reduces aromatization of test into e2. How the fuck does it lower e2 without reducing the rate of aromitization?

 

[DeodatoFulci]

I made the switch from easy touch to these and I will tell you that I noticed a big difference because I poke through two stoppers per syringe and I can't tell if it gets dull or not very sharp , when I used to use easy touch they seem to dull more IME , so I'm also sold on these true plus syringes and they're pretty reasonably priced

Many thanks! Ordered a few boxes. Huge Nipro TW fan so im stoked to grab these.

 

[Magenzus]

Tell me about. All of these mfers saying primo "lowers e2" but won't say it reduces aromatization of test into e2. How the fuck does it lower e2 without reducing the rate of aromitization?

You’re right about aromatase, and by saying that, you’re also conceding the lower E2.

 

[The Answ3r]

There’s this long running gym myth that Primo “kills e2.” Sounds cool, but reality is less Hollywood. Primo isn’t an AI, and there’s no solid evidence it directly lowers estrogen. Estrogen doesn’t read forum posts.

Same thing with Masteron. Half the gym swears Mast annihilates e2. In practice, it mostly annihilates your wallet and gives you that dry look. No solid evidence it works like an AI either.

What usually happens is way less magical. Guys drop their test and crank up Primo. Less test means less aromatization. Boom, e2 drops. Primo gets the credit like it just won Mr Olympia.

Another possibility people bring up is vials not being what the label says, or being cut with something else. If something like EQ is involved, that can absolutely change how e2 behaves for some guys. Not saying that’s the case, just saying it’s one reason bloodwork stories get messy.

Then there’s body fat. Lose fat, aromatase tends to drop, e2 can drop. Again, not Primo sorcery, just biology doing biology things while we argue online.

To be fair, plenty of guys do see lower e2 on bloods while running Primo. Others see nothing move. Both can be true. Different bodies, different test doses, different fat levels, different labs, different vials.

So if Primo tanks your e2, congrats, you’re special. If it doesn’t, also normal. Hormones don’t care about vibes, gym lore, or what your favorite influencer said.

 

[Magenzus]

Primo 100 that tested at 103%, GCMS results:

From what I know the results are good, but let’s have the more experienced bros on this have a look.

 

[Magenzus]

Heres the same for the NPP 100 that came in at 97.5%

 

[Whistles77]

Primo 100 that tested at 103%, GCMS results:

From what I know the results are good, but let’s have the more experienced bros on this have a look.

Looks really good to me. MCT, not veg oil. No oxidation.

Edit: NPP looks sweet too



In case it's useful: Here are all the test reports ive seen for this batch:
HLPC

- Vendor Raws: Janoshik Analytical
- Vendor HLPC: Janoshik Analytical
HLPC
- Magenzus GCMS: Janoshik Analytical
- Magenzus HLPC: Janoshik Analytical

 

[The Answ3r]

Primo 100 that tested at 103%, GCMS results:

From what I know the results are good, but let’s have the more experienced bros on this have a look.

Thanks for testing the Primo. Looks like we bought it around the same time over Christmas. Good to know the dosing checks out, I can sleep easy now.

 

[M0USE]

Solid observation eagle eye! So what?

I need it lol

 

[Dial It In]

Primo 100 that tested at 103%, GCMS results:

From what I know the results are good, but let’s have the more experienced bros on this have a look.

Hexa and Oxa? Was this the Chinese primo from before?

 

[ZaddyZonar]

Hexa and Oxa? Was this the Chinese primo from before?

His batch was purchased in December on the last restock

 

[TanFishMan]

Primo 100 that tested at 103%, GCMS results:

From what I know the results are good, but let’s have the more experienced bros on this have a look.

Second time I’ve seen GCMS not list BA and BB. Why?

 

[Whistles77]

His batch was purchased in December on the last restock

Yeah, This was the batch where the raws produced a Primo 100, but the Primo 200 came out as 180 and was discounted. There was only a vendor GCMS of the Primo 200/180 and not a GCMS of the Primo 100 until now

Claimed to have been brewed in Miglyol 812. I don't see anything that contradicts the claim....and now wish i'd got more.

The Primo 200 GCMS shows BB, whilst the Primo 100 one doesn't, both fit Migoyl i think.

 

[powdered_toast_man]

You’re right about aromatase, and by saying that, you’re also conceding the lower E2.

No I'm not. I'm saying there is no lowering of e2 from primo and you are mistaken. To be clear, regardless of what you think you've see in your own bloodwork.

I will try to explain another way. We call AIs "AIs" because of what they do. We take them to lower e2 bc that action reliably does so. SERMs, a similar arguement.

Primo on the other hand is an androgen. WE don't take androgens to reliably reduce e2 on bloodwork because it doesn't. Otherwise we would cstegorize it by it's reliable additional effect, even if the mechanism was undescribed.

The reliability is the entire issue - it is entriely unreliable... it might not modulate e2 at all and you just dont know how to read the results of your shitty, cheap lab results.

If you want to keep taking it for this purpose, you do you. I'm going to tell everyone else not to use primo for this purpose.

 

[Photon]

Jano Test E250 “Unknown Batch”

Waiting on other test, also requested Jano to fix report to say Primal and batch “P10” as the label says.

Did we ever find out why we never got the Test E raw results?

Test E250 Sept Batch GCMS

I apologize but was the Test E GCMS ever addressed?


Leaving this China Primo200 as a sample..

Janoshik Analytical

And a pure MCT sample

Janoshik Analytical

@SwolieGuacamole
@MisterT

 

[ZaddyZonar]

I apologize but was the Test E GCMS ever addressed?
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Leaving this China Primo200 as a sample..

Janoshik Analytical

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And a pure MCT sample

Janoshik Analytical

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@SwolieGuacamole

Damn, didn’t see the Test E before. Thought the primo was the only China oil they resold. Hmm