Is it true that all sites on eroids are scams?

Right?
Well actually, maybe but maybe not! (I will admit for the more seasoned vet these conflicts or differing opinions pose minimal challenges because their personal contacts, FRIENDS, MATES, enable and expedite the purchase of AAS while minimizing the risk in many respects)

Why, because often there are just as many negative reviews for a pathetic product as positive ones. How can this be? Paid ratings, rankings and reviews are all to common is this business and for neophytes in search of a legitimate source, whom are they to believe?

No doubt a well doctored, managed and advertised product site with bogus "community boards", frequently overcome with artificial mates and bro's has an undeniable appeal to noobs (not knowing the difference).

How is this quandary best overcome? Uncensored boards especially with respect to PED sites; sales, efficacy, veracity, reliability etc. No, this approach is not perfect but it's a drastic improvement over those arcane site serving "rules", which favor moderators whom are invariably on someone's payroll and whom enforce the "rules" in an indiscriminate fashion, favoring only themselves or site sponsors.

For example of how this works effectively, pull up the thread "steroidsfax.com" whereupon a query involving the resale of "unlabeled Sciroxx products" was raised on Meso's OPEN FORUM board. The end result after several contentious recriminations was a satisfied noob and a AAS site whom developed a more trusting relationship with Meso membership. (Admittedly, in my experience, most AAS resale sites are unwilling to subject "their company" to the degree of scrutiny which is trite to many uncensored boards)

Many "open" AAS boards would simply "not tolerate" such revealing discussions because of the vested interest of all those involved, excluding the isolated customer. Why the "rules" don't allow the disclosure of secure, sensitive, privileged or "copyrighted" information, lol!

JIM
 
Right?
Well actually, maybe but maybe not! (I will admit for the more seasoned vet these conflicts or differing opinions pose minimal challenges because their personal contacts, FRIENDS, MATES, enable and expedite the purchase of AAS while minimizing the risk in many respects)

Why, because often there are just as many negative reviews for a pathetic product as positive ones. How can this be? Paid ratings, rankings and reviews are all to common is this business and for neophytes in search of a legitimate source, whom are they to believe?

No doubt a well doctored, managed and advertised product site with bogus "community boards", frequently overcome with artificial mates and bro's has an undeniable appeal to noobs (not knowing the difference).

How is this quandary best overcome? Uncensored boards especially with respect to PED sites; sales, efficacy, veracity, reliability etc. No, this approach is not perfect but it's a drastic improvement over those arcane site serving "rules", which favor moderators whom are invariably on someone's payroll and whom enforce the "rules" in an indiscriminate fashion, favoring only themselves or site sponsors.

For example of how this works effectively, pull up the thread "steroidsfax.com" whereupon a query involving the resale of "unlabeled Sciroxx products" was raised on Meso's OPEN FORUM board. The end result after several contentious recriminations was a satisfied noob and a AAS site whom developed a more trusting relationship with Meso membership. (Admittedly, in my experience, most AAS resale sites are unwilling to subject "their company" to the degree of scrutiny which is trite to many uncensored boards)

Many "open" AAS boards would simply "not tolerate" such revealing discussions because of the vested interest of all those involved, excluding the isolated customer. Why the "rules" don't allow the disclosure of secure, sensitive, privileged or "copyrighted" information, lol!

JIM
I'm picking up what you're dropping. Maybe I wasn't clear on mass spectrum tests on product and respected board members (not mods).

If I was a respected board guru that had easy access to mass spectrum tests, which there are many out there. If I was delivered a bunk or very low potent "board sponsored" product, and the posted test results were deleted. I'd start a war. This isn't a "Hey I got ripped off..", or "I got bunk results.." tissues for my issues thread. I'd pm every member I'm acquainted with and forward them the situation. I wouldn't attack the board directly, kicking and screaming. Then, I'd go to a number of other popular boards and politely pm the mods to be aware and post the results there. This is part of what I'd do. Anyone with half a brain will Google what they can find when researching a new source or brand product. If the issue is properly noted without freaking out like that Rosco w/e, it will be found and accredited. But, retards are everywhere. I don't see major board mods deleting factual documented proof for personal gain happening constantly. I believe word would get out fast. On small boards? I wouldn't doubt it. Nothing is 100% in UGLs. Not even your best bro's most trusted connect. If you're smart, you can make an educated decision. With proper research, you can increase the odds of a successful business transaction with superior product. I'm not saying anything new. So anyway...

From my short period of source research on several major boards (a veteran friend recommended). I've seen many lost/seized etc. orders fixed by board reps if the issues are handled properly. Like before, nothing is 100%. Falling asleep finally. Hopefully I was more clear, even if I'm completely out of my mind.
 
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Right?
For example of how this works effectively, pull up the thread "steroidsfax.com" whereupon a query involving the resale of "unlabeled Sciroxx products" was raised on Meso's OPEN FORUM board. The end result after several contentious recriminations was a satisfied noob and a AAS site whom developed a more trusting relationship with Meso membership. (Admittedly, in my experience, most AAS resale sites are unwilling to subject "their company" to the degree of scrutiny which is trite to many uncensored boards)
JIM
I followed that thread very closely, and it was exactly that diligence on the part of vets combined with the freedom to actually post uncensored concerns which gave me confidence to "jump in." And it was the manner of response by the entity in question which determined where. I am truly appreciative.
 
I'm not sure about DEA chasing customers,it's too expensive and has no point really IMHO...and I never heard anyone got hassled who is not a reseller. Not even after ORD.

As for legit sites,for a newbie it's very hard for them to spot what's ok and whats not.

It happens regularly throughout the year. But you're right, it's not the feds. It's usually local cops who finds steroids in a car during a traffic stop or something like that.
Know this....if there is a computer involed, WU/MG/Greendot, USPS/customs or a fire arm, the feds CAN and WILL pick up the case irregardless of if they are convicted by the state or even if they are not prosecuted by the state for any reason.
I've known guys doing time in the state only to get transferred while doing state time or upon their release from state prison. If the feds wrap up a conspiracy started while someone is doing time for different crime they get picked up before being released from the state for the crime their doing time for. It's called a "Hold"
What's up with these reckless posts your making on different boards recently, Thorus? You sound like a fucking amateur? Clean it up for Christ's sake?
 
I have seen a lot of post regarding euroking being gtg. I doubt it. I placed an order for some gear and they claim they havent recieved payment in turn my gear hasnt been sent. the payment company i used verified that the money was picked up. so, so far i have to say scam.
 
Jixer do u mean euroking-gear? I ordered with them back in August, I do remember it took them a few days to pick up the funds.
 
yeah, euroking gear. I ordered about a week ago. the customer service replyed once then the next day deleted my ticket. just submitted another one so i will see how this one goes.
 
The best way to verify that your money is picked up send a ticket with the picture of the reciept else you can contact me by pm so we can handle it

I have seen a lot of post regarding euroking being gtg. I doubt it. I placed an order for some gear and they claim they havent recieved payment in turn my gear hasnt been sent. the payment company i used verified that the money was picked up. so, so far i have to say scam.
 
The best way to verify that your money is picked up send a ticket with the picture of the reciept else you can contact me by pm so we can handle it

Keep this post updated jixxer...

EK is supposed to be good from the reports I've seen anyway...I have no personal experience with them...either way...its good for the process to be out in the open.

And please....trade in that bicycle you ride for something with a real motor....
 
I have no reason to cheat anyone for few bucks

i just need him to pm me with the order number and ill see what the issue is

Keep this post updated jixxer...

EK is supposed to be good from the reports I've seen anyway...I have no personal experience with them...either way...its good for the process to be out in the open.

And please....trade in that bicycle you ride for something with a real motor....
 
I have no reason to cheat anyone for few bucks

i just need him to pm me with the order number and ill see what the issue is

I wasn't trying to insinuate that. Sorry if I came off that way.

I tried to say I have always heard good things, which is the truth. That's why I was surprised when this post came up.

Let me be clear; I have ONLY heard good things about EK. And your fast reply to this posting, confirms what I have previously heard.

and JIX...you can talk about my momma, my girl, or my country....but you keep that trap shut about my ride. [:o)]
 
Your EK posts have been quite supportive IMO Stretch, and I really don't understand how someone could interpret them as being adversarial!
 
I'm picking up what you're dropping. Maybe I wasn't clear on mass spectrum tests on product and respected board members (not mods).

If I was a respected board guru that had easy access to mass spectrum tests, which there are many out there. If I was delivered a bunk or very low potent "board sponsored" product, and the posted test results were deleted. I'd start a war.


Board vets usually do receive legit product - because they are vets and presumably hold some sway over the newer members. It's the junior members that are the real target for sources to make sales to - simply because they vastly exceed vets in numbers. So, the vet receives the product, it tests well and he gives it his seal of approval. The junior menbers, seeing the respected vet give a positive review, feel secure in using the source and the orders start rolling in. It's at this point the unscrupulous sources start sending under-dosed or bunk gear. It's the old "bait-and-switch," if you will. Complaints from junior members are typically written off by the mods as "just some dumb noob" and they get banned from the board.

Another thing to keep in mind with these open source boards is the type of person the lasts long enough to attain "vet" status, by their very nature, will toe-the-line and not ruffle any feathers. Otherwise, they would have been banned long before. Even when a source does turn scammer, you'll rarely see the vets join the feeding frenzy. It's always the junior members rising up that forces the mods to remove the source, while the vets sit around looking like they just got caught jerking-off.


This isn't a "Hey I got ripped off..", or "I got bunk results.." tissues for my issues thread. I'd pm every member I'm acquainted with and forward them the situation.


If the board wanted to protect the source enough to delete your posts, you won't be PMing anybody because you'll be banned. Vet or Not. The only loyalty in this racket is to money.


If you're smart, you can make an educated decision. With proper research, you can increase the odds of a successful business transaction with superior product. I'm not saying anything new. So anyway...


If you're smart, you can take an educated gamble. Because that's what it is - a gamble. The best advise for everybody that's contemplating ordering from online sources is to do your research and don't send more money than you can afford to lose.
 
Board vets usually do receive legit product - because they are vets and presumably hold some sway over the newer members. It's the junior members that are the real target for sources to make sales to - simply because they vastly exceed vets in numbers. So, the vet receives the product, it tests well and he gives it his seal of approval. The junior menbers, seeing the respected vet give a positive review, feel secure in using the source and the orders start rolling in. It's at this point the unscrupulous sources start sending under-dosed or bunk gear. It's the old "bait-and-switch," if you will. Complaints from junior members are typically written off by the mods as "just some dumb noob" and they get banned from the board.

Another thing to keep in mind with these open source boards is the type of person the lasts long enough to attain "vet" status, by their very nature, will toe-the-line and not ruffle any feathers. Otherwise, they would have been banned long before. Even when a source does turn scammer, you'll rarely see the vets join the feeding frenzy. It's always the junior members rising up that forces the mods to remove the source, while the vets sit around looking like they just got caught jerking-off.





If the board wanted to protect the source enough to delete your posts, you won't be PMing anybody because you'll be banned. Vet or Not. The only loyalty in this racket is to money.




If you're smart, you can take an educated gamble. Because that's what it is - a gamble. The best advise for everybody that's contemplating ordering from online sources is to do your research and don't send more money than you can afford to lose.

I think this is true 99% of the time. But there are exceptions.

I have posted on the open forum that I couldn't recommend my own companies HGH as of yet. Because I haven't tried it, and KIGS get bad reviews. I recommended, to a new member on our forum, that I would be leary to "send his hard earned money" away for a product which may not be legitimate.

I am not disagreeing. per say...(spelling?)...but money isn't UNIVERSALLY the only thing ALL people in this racket are loyal to. I care about my name, and I care about the members of this forum. In time, this will be fully evidenced.

Everything else you said is 100% spot on.
 
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Board vets usually do receive legit product - because they are vets and presumably hold some sway over the newer members. It's the junior members that are the real target for sources to make sales to - simply because they vastly exceed vets in numbers. So, the vet receives the product, it tests well and he gives it his seal of approval. The junior menbers, seeing the respected vet give a positive review, feel secure in using the source and the orders start rolling in. It's at this point the unscrupulous sources start sending under-dosed or bunk gear. It's the old "bait-and-switch," if you will. Complaints from junior members are typically written off by the mods as "just some dumb noob" and they get banned from the board.

Another thing to keep in mind with these open source boards is the type of person the lasts long enough to attain "vet" status, by their very nature, will toe-the-line and not ruffle any feathers. Otherwise, they would have been banned long before. Even when a source does turn scammer, you'll rarely see the vets join the feeding frenzy. It's always the junior members rising up that forces the mods to remove the source, while the vets sit around looking like they just got caught jerking-off.

If the board wanted to protect the source enough to delete your posts, you won't be PMing anybody because you'll be banned. Vet or Not. The only loyalty in this racket is to money.

Touche! Though I was misquoted. You left out the "..attacking the board head on, kicking and screaming." Of course jumping at the board, mods, sources head on in this shady situation will get you insta-banned. I completely agree with you though.





If you're smart, you can take an educated gamble. Because that's what it is - a gamble. The best advise for everybody that's contemplating ordering from online sources is to do your research and don't send more money than you can afford to lose.

When you gamble, every call is a decision unless you're a donk. :)
 

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