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fit2beking
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Chris Christie Was Born to Run
http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2156871,00.html
He wont even get out of that hell hole called the republican primary! [
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GigaloRob
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"Born to run" Shit, that guy has not broken in to a fast walk let alone a run.
fit2beking
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drockspang1
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Funny how all of a sudden Christie has become loved by the main stream media.
Just the fact that the media is trying so desperately to push him towards running in '16 on the republican ticket should tell anyone who is center, or right of center to ABSOLUTELY find another candidate! I mean exit polling from Tuesdays election had Hillary beating Christie... IN NEW JERSEY!
3 years is a long time in the political arena... so who knows who will be making headlines by then. Maybe by 2016 people will actually be able to sign up for Obamacare? [)]
Just the fact that the media is trying so desperately to push him towards running in '16 on the republican ticket should tell anyone who is center, or right of center to ABSOLUTELY find another candidate! I mean exit polling from Tuesdays election had Hillary beating Christie... IN NEW JERSEY!
3 years is a long time in the political arena... so who knows who will be making headlines by then. Maybe by 2016 people will actually be able to sign up for Obamacare? [
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How Republicans Rig the Game
Through gerrymandering, voter suppression and legislative tricks, the GOP has managed to hold on to power while more and more Americans reject their candidates and their ideas
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-republicans-rig-the-game-20131111
Through gerrymandering, voter suppression and legislative tricks, the GOP has managed to hold on to power while more and more Americans reject their candidates and their ideas
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-republicans-rig-the-game-20131111
Unfortunately the republican primaries are a race to bottom of the intellectual barrel, and whatever knuckle dragging mouth breather that ends up surviving that shit storm is so far right (or like Mitt Romney, pretending to be far right just to survive the primaries) that no one from either party with a centrist or moderate view would ever consider voting for them. So many promising politicians have no chance because they believe gays have equal rights and don't believe that the earth is 6000 years old. I'd take a moderate conservative over a far left liberal any day, but if I had to chose far left or far right, I'd easily chose far left.
Yeah, tell me how that's working out for you. Let's see, was Carter or Regan a better president? Hmm...
Oh, and hows that ObamaCare far left crap working out for you and the country?
Retard.
If you had the mental capacity to actually understand what I wrote you'd see that I am not in favor of far left or far right, I prefer moderate positions. I'm a registered republican and vote conservative on most fiscal issues. But, having to chose one extreme or the other I'd prefer that party that wouldn't want to teach my kids that dinosaur bones are satan trying to play tricks on us.
Also, the foundation for "obamacare" was 100% a republican principal in the 90's, when it was considered the financially responsible thing to do by not letting the uninsured use the ER as a free medical service while giving the rest of us taxpayers the bill. But now that it's being implemented by a democrat it's "socialist". Guess what else is socialist? VA benefits, Medicare, and social security. Try taking those things away and people would shit their pants. I'd be willing to bet that obamacare had affected you personally in no way whatsoever, but because you probably watch nothing but Fox News and the drudge report all day you're convinced that half the country is being kicked off their plans and left without insurance. Were there fuck ups? Sure. Am I glad I'm not needing to be part of the insurance marketplace? Indeed. But I know several people who beat cancer that had been unable to get any form of health insurance until obamacare passed.
nuncaquite
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What you have done in your post on this thread is misrepresent who you are and what you believe. Everyone here that reads your post will see this clearly.
This is meso bro. #1 for a reason. You have to be the best liar you can be, if you are going to fool this crowd. If this misrepresentation is the best you can do? You will get eaten alive.
I liked John McCain as an independent, but unfortunately you have to fall in line with certain political views when you run as a republican or democrat. As far as Obama Care goes, I don't know what the fuck is going to happen it seems all speculation to me. However if you think cutting medicaid and medicare is a good idea I hope you never get caught with a significant amount of steroids that leads to a felony conviction. Good luck finding a job that offers you private health insurance.
I don't think I misrepresented who I am, but just in case I did let me boil it down. I am a socially libertarian and fiscally conservative person. I have views that are sometimes in line with liberals (pot, healthcare) and sometimes in line with republicans (taxes, govt spending, etc). I tended to vote conservative on most issues, and usually voted for republican candidates locally (albeit I'm only 27 so there haven't been that many elections for me). UNTIL the Republican Party all of a sudden became a party of religious extremists and political obstructionists that would rather grind the country to a halt than concede or compromise on any issue. The GOP is being held hostage by 30% of its members, and once responsible and innovative members are now relegated to the background out of fear of being primaried by a tea party candidate and blindly vote with them. It's when these situations occur that I start voting for other parties. Hell I voted 3rd party for president last year besides I couldn't stand either candidate. Nothing would make me happier than to see someone with moderate views get to the general election, I'd vote for a moderate on either side of the either over an extremist on either party. I just don't see anyone with moderate views making it through the GOP primaries.
I despise both political parties. Fuck Clinton, he signed off on the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act and fuck Biden for writing it up. Fuck Clinton for overseeing NAFTA. Fuck Bush for the Patriot Act and the war in Iraq. I don't even know if these political parties support the views they are supposed to have, I can't tell. The Tea Baggers look like the biggest problem we have now. But lets take a step back from criticizing Obama Care and the Tea Baggers for a second and look at Obama signing off on 2013's NDAA act and how it violates your rights as an American citizen. Obama Signs 2013 NDAA: May Still Arrest, Detain Citizens Without Charge take a look at who is involved in this shit.
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You attempt to rewrite history is pathetic. I doubt you were out diapers when Reagan was around. Things were rocking in the 80s. It was a good time to be an American you progressive tool. Don't forget to ask Obama if you can sniff his panties on the way to pick up your government check.
Moderate equates to working across the aisle which equates to growing government. If you have not figured that out you are a fool. Moderate is not an honorable label - it is synonymous with someone who knows shit about politics, the constitution, and just wants to be liked by everyone. Moderates are chickenshits.
fit2beking
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I have yet to see you offer any logical arguments to defend your point of view except call him names. He doesn’t have to be born in the time of the presidency to get opinions. It's called history! I am pretty sure you weren't here when Washington, Lincoln, Roosevelt, and countless others but that does not mean we don't have an account of what these men did as president. So based on the accounts in history we can see their ups and downs while in office.
You sir sound like someone who is losing an argument and now you are resulting to name calling. He gave logical statements to his stance and views on things. You may not agree with him, but what I see is in his 27 years he has garnered some pretty logical views, whether I agree or not is not the point. I can appreciate his views. You on the other hand sound like one of those fringe right wingers who spew hate but offer nothing logical in your views.
One of the reasons this country's political system is fucked is because so many people have this stupid "us versus them" mentality with political parties. I'm not some stubborn asshole that believes one side has all of the answers. And yes, maybe it was "rockin" during the 80s, but the political and financial infrastructure that was put into place then is what caused us to be so totally fucked today. My generation is going to be taxed to death to fix what the generation before mine broke. The Reagan administration is when the wealth gap between the wealthy and middle class began expanding at record pace. Kinsian economics and the "rising tide that lifts all boats" is a primary reason that the top 10% of the populous owns 75% of the wealth. And guess what? I'm in that 10% due to my business success and I still think that's fucked up.
Also, I'm not "rewriting" history about Reagan, some people put him in this god-like status that he doesn't deserve. He signed the largest tax hike in California's history while governor, while at the same time nearly doubling its spending. He campaigned saying "read my lips, no new taxes" and then raised taxes 11 times in 8 years. He tripled the governments deficit while in office, which ironically was because of a major tax cut that killed govt revenue, which in the end forced him to enact the tax hikes listed above.
But hey I'm just a dumb progressive that majored in political science and business so what do I know.
Also, I'm not "rewriting" history about Reagan, some people put him in this god-like status that he doesn't deserve. He signed the largest tax hike in California's history while governor, while at the same time nearly doubling its spending. He campaigned saying "read my lips, no new taxes" and then raised taxes 11 times in 8 years. He tripled the governments deficit while in office, which ironically was because of a major tax cut that killed govt revenue, which in the end forced him to enact the tax hikes listed above.
But hey I'm just a dumb progressive that majored in political science and business so what do I know.
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