I don’t need no rocking chair.

[The ole man]

Ok so to bring the thread up to date,
I took the last 2 days of orals off, wasn’t exactly intentional the first day. Just got to busy at work and forgot to take them and then yesterday out with my girl, and I decided to skip that one too.
Also yesterday I got my morning oats/scoop protein, and then had my first ever smoothie with strawberry banana.
Then hung out at the park all day with her lil guy.
Finished the day with a homemade chicken salad/ no bread, and an avocado.
So I’m gonna guess we only got in 1000-1200 calories.
However back on track today with 20/20 dbol/winny.
Tomm moving forward we are gonna shift to a cutting phase.
Still at 300 mg test
Oral dosage will change
New dosage will be
20 mg dbol
40 mg winny
We gonna finish out the last 2 weeks of orals with this. That will put us at 12 weeks of blast, and will finish up 6 weeks of orals.
I will blast 2 more weeks after the orals are completed.
Weather to do a mini pct or not is the first question I have, so I’m still reading and trying to decide.
I will then move to 250/e10d sust on a cruise.
Will take bloods after 4 weeks.
Then I just might try 100mg/wk tren along with my sust on cruise June/July/August and then cruise thru September on just Sust and then do complete pct the last 3 months of the year.
I will take bloods 4 times being after 4 weeks of sust cruise May 29th, 6 weeks after tren added(July 15ish) and again after tren (Sept 1st) then again at end of year after pct.

 

[Btcowboy]

Ok so to bring the thread up to date,
I took the last 2 days of orals off, wasn’t exactly intentional the first day. Just got to busy at work and forgot to take them and then yesterday out with my girl, and I decided to skip that one too.
Also yesterday I got my morning oats/scoop protein, and then had my first ever smoothie with strawberry banana.
Then hung out at the park all day with her lil guy.
Finished the day with a homemade chicken salad/ no bread, and an avocado.
So I’m gonna guess we only got in 1000-1200 calories.
However back on track today with 20/20 dbol/winny.
Tomm moving forward we are gonna shift to a cutting phase.
Still at 300 mg test
Oral dosage will change
New dosage will be
20 mg dbol
40 mg winny
We gonna finish out the last 2 weeks of orals with this. That will put us at 12 weeks of blast, and will finish up 6 weeks of orals.
I will blast 2 more weeks after the orals are completed.
Weather to do a mini pct or not is the first question I have, so I’m still reading and trying to decide.
I will then move to 250/e10d sust on a cruise.
Will take bloods after 4 weeks.
Then I just might try 100mg/wk tren along with my sust on cruise June/July/August and then cruise thru September on just Sust and then do complete pct the last 3 months of the year.
I will take bloods 4 times being after 4 weeks of sust cruise May 29th, 6 weeks after tren added(July 15ish) and again after tren (Sept 1st) then again at end of year after pct.

My 2 cents brother, if your going to cruise dont PCT before the cruise. Just transition right into cruise dose

 

[The ole man]

My 2 cents brother, if your going to cruise dont PCT before the cruise. Just transition right into cruise dose

No mini pct then huh.
I was kinda thinking that.
I’m gonna get a good pct in at the end of the year.

I also been reading some views on using nolva on cycle, with possible low dose adex ( if needed )and using adex and hcg for pct. Any thoughts?

 

[Btcowboy]

No mini pct then huh.
I was kinda thinking that.
I’m gonna get a good pct in at the end of the year.

I also been reading some views on using nolva on cycle, with possible low dose adex ( if needed )and using adex and hcg for pct. Any thoughts?

Yeah no mini PCT if going to cruise.

As for the rest I cant comment except adex at .5 or .25 every 3 or 4 days for AI

 

[The ole man]

Yeah no mini PCT if going to cruise.

As for the rest I cant comment except adex at .5 or .25 every 3 or 4 days for AI

Ya I’m on .5 every 4 days of adex as Ai right now. I don’t take anything else on cycle other than liver and heart supps.

But I’ve read a few of the threads where a vet had said to use Nolva on cycle instead of/or with small dose of adex.
Said that Nolva and HCG was a much better combo for pct than Nolva and clomid.
I’ve seen it said a few times here and there. I might post a thread to see what opinions I get.

 

[Biggles48]

Have any of you run low dose NPP during cruise? For joint purposes? Pros/cons if so?

 

[The ole man]

Have any of you run low dose NPP during cruise? For joint purposes? Pros/cons if so?

I have not. But I’ve had no issues with joint pain in the last 6 months, on or off cycle.

 

[The ole man]

So finishing up the 5th week of orals, and the end of the first week of raising the dosage from 20 mg to 40mg of winny. Still at 20 mg of dbol.
I love winstrol! I’m eager to see what my lipids are after the run of orals.
I feel great, slow and steady gains. Definition is coming in.
Just all and all a good cycle!

Don’t let ppl scare you off of using it. Everybody said, don’t do it, it will dry out your joints and really fuck you up.
But I have no pain, no soreness, nothing but steady gains after 5 weeks.
And I’m 47 with sciatica, and a history of herniated discs.
My sciatica was all but a after thought the last few weeks!
I’m super stoked for my injury rehabilitation.
I’ve learned more on this site on how to take care of my body, than I ever learned from a Dr, or on a Dr Visit.


I recommend adding winny to your cycle. I will deff use it in the future. I might go with the injectable winny tho.
I might have to see what labs carry it.

 

[valuum]

Injectable winny doesn't get a lot of love online but the very few people I've known that use AAS in real life all spoke highly of it, old school guys, I think it was more standard back then. Like how so many of those guys still prefer sust

 

[The ole man]

Injectable winny doesn't get a lot of love online but the very few people I've known that use AAS in real life all spoke highly of it, old school guys, I think it was more standard back then. Like how so many of those guys still prefer sust

I’m gonna move to Sust myself here soon.

 

[The ole man]

So on 6th week of Orals.
I dropped the Dbol at start of 6th week and will finish this last week with 40 mg a day of winny
I dropped the dbol so the winny could cut me up this last week.
And am very happy with the turn out.
Still at 300 mg test.
This last week of winny I’ve reduced my calories to 1800 Sun, 1400 today, and will drop 200 ever day till Next Sunday.
Maintenance is about 2750 to 3000
I’m more ripped than I’ve been in a long while.
I absolutely loved this cycle!
I don’t know how my estrogen jumped that 3rd week, lack of good protocol with the Ai I guess.

The magic really comes when you drop the dbol, and shed the extra water you were retaining.
I would deff run this again!
Might run it next time 30mg dbol and 40mg winny for 6 weeks, with an extra 2 weeks of winny at 50mg.

After that I’m gonna move to Anavar for my orals. Probably source some powder and make my own caps. Make some for me and some 5 mg for my girl.

Anyway, 5 more days of orals, and then on to my cruise.
Cruise will be 250 Sust and 100 mg tren per week.

 

[Worf]

So finishing up the 5th week of orals, and the end of the first week of raising the dosage from 20 mg to 40mg of winny. Still at 20 mg of dbol.
I love winstrol! I’m eager to see what my lipids are after the run of orals.
I feel great, slow and steady gains. Definition is coming in.
Just all and all a good cycle!

Don’t let ppl scare you off of using it. Everybody said, don’t do it, it will dry out your joints and really fuck you up.
But I have no pain, no soreness, nothing but steady gains after 5 weeks.
And I’m 47 with sciatica, and a history of herniated discs.
My sciatica was all but a after thought the last few weeks!
I’m super stoked for my injury rehabilitation.
I’ve learned more on this site on how to take care of my body, than I ever learned from a Dr, or on a Dr Visit.


I recommend adding winny to your cycle. I will deff use it in the future. I might go with the injectable winny tho.
I might have to see what labs carry it.

Your joints and back pain feel better with the dbol/winny? I wonder if they cancel each other out

 

[The ole man]

Your joints and back pain feel better with the dbol/winny? I wonder if they cancel each other out

Good question. I think that it kept water weight off of me, which kept my bp in check.
I however am at the end of orals and I’ve gone down to about .5 dex e5d.
No problems.

 

[The ole man]

So feeling great! Got some excellent gains from this last blast of test 300 mg a week, and 6 weeks of dbol/winny.

So today I started my cruise. I haven’t ordered my sust yet, which I will by end of next week.
So the cruise until the sust shows up, is 150 mg test E and 100 mg of tren e, one pin a week, on Sunday.
We run this till the end of September, and then I do a 3 month pct, with hcg, and arimidex.
Then re-evaluate first of the year.

Btw, I had one side effect from the last blast. I ended up with a girlfriend that is 16 years my junior. I’m 47 just for you kiddo porn freaks that read more out of that, than was needed.
Just saying, been a couple threads where I’ve read some very disturbing posts on a member. I just leave it at that.
Anyway, so far she has been a good side effect of my cycle.
Except I’ve blew off a couple workouts to hang out with her.
She also knows about my aas use.
However I did play it off as Trt, which I might be able to say is fact, now that I’m on a cruise.
Anyway no tren cough on 1/2 ml of tren E. Thoughts? Not enough to make me have tren cough???

 

[The ole man]

So start of cruise
Time to drop down to under 10% bfi
@FourOneDeuxFitt You got a good cut program for my cruise.
Cruise is 150 mg test E( just till Sust gets here. Possible next pin on Sunday)
I’m also running 100 mg tren E a week.
Just 1 pin on Sun.
I’m gonna cruise all summer. But I want cut up to the max for mid summer!

Hook me up with a good program.
And any other diet or workout advice you got for me.

 

[Btcowboy]

So start of cruise
Time to drop down to under 10% bfi
@FourOneDeuxFitt You got a good cut program for my cruise.
Cruise is 150 mg test E( just till Sust gets here. Possible next pin on Sunday)
I’m also running 100 mg tren E a week.
Just 1 pin on Sun.
I’m gonna cruise all summer. But I want cut up to the max for mid summer!

Hook me up with a good program.
And any other diet or workout advice you got for me.

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Nice work

 

[The ole man]

Nice work

Appreciate it bro.
I’m putting my heart into it.
I’m about 14 months into this, coming from a person that had about 25% bfi

 

[Btcowboy]

Appreciate it bro.
I’m putting my heart into it.
I’m about 14 months into this, coming from a person that had about 25% bfi

I hear that we take great pride in what we can accomplish. I went from a somewhat avid lifter to a fat fuck at 320lbs. About 3 years ago in had enough and started working at dropping the weight. Last may was down to 184lbs. BF I got caliper measures a few months before at 196 and was 13.5% from probably close to 50%. Worked my ass of through to August last year and blasted off. Put on a good 25 plus lbs mostly good. Now slow cut on cruise was dropping 1 lb every 2 weeks until this shutdown I am on. Now work killing gym time for me. Been at work 4 weeks now with 4 more to go and haven't weighed so hoping I ain't climbing lol.

Again brother keep doing what your doing it is working.

 

[Biggles48]

Appreciate it bro.
I’m putting my heart into it.
I’m about 14 months into this, coming from a person that had about 25% bfi

I’m on cruise right along with you. Same test dose/wk. Never ran tren before but its on the horizon. What are you seeing from the 100/wk tren? Noticeable difference from taking just test?

 

[The ole man]

I’m on cruise right along with you. Same test dose/wk. Never ran tren before but its on the horizon. What are you seeing from the 100/wk tren? Noticeable difference from taking just test?

I’m not for sure at the moment.
I’ve only been on it 6 days and it’s tren E so I’m thinking prob another week.
Yesterday I couldn’t quit eating and I wondered if it might be the culprit.
I will update in about another week.
However I didn’t get no burn or cough from injection like ppl claim.
But then again I only pinned 1/2 ml of tren mixed with a ml of test, and 1/2 ml of extra gso.
Maybe that dilutes it so much that i don’t see that cough. Maybe not enough tren to cause a cough.
I’m only doing 1 pin a week of this too. Not splitting my weekly dose.
I’ve also dropped my Ai to .5 every week.
Feel good. Have had good workouts.
Been seeing a girl and she has cut into my gym time some. So trying to maintain and slightly cut at the moment.