Not seeing results

[Bigbicep]

Yes I had bloods done on week 4. My test is over 1500

It could be underdosed. When I was on 500mg on week 3 I was at around 2500ng/dl. Find a reliable source. Eat and and train hard. Your test is still above normal you will make gains. Gains arnt instant they take time. If you want to continue with this cycle go for it you will make gains aslong as you’re eating and training right. Pull bloods 2-3 weeks after you started the 1g and see where they are then.

 

[ackmack78]

It could be underdosed. When I was on 500mg on week 3 I was at around 2500ng/dl. Find a reliable source. Eat and and train hard. Your test is still above normal you will make gains. Gains arnt instant they take time. If you want to continue with this cycle go for it you will make gains aslong as you’re eating and training right. Pull bloods 2-3 weeks after you started the 1g and see where they are then.

Same here 550 a week split into 2 shots and I tested at 3000 24 hours after injection. This dudes never gonna make gains though if he doesn't eat more than 2500 calories

 

[anabolicperro]

if you dont talk about your diet and training on the description
i wonder why you are not seeing progress.

 

[Thecabanaboy]

Rome wasn’t built in a day. Ronnie Coleman wasn’t either.

 

[lukiss96]

Everyone gave you the right advise right away. you just don't want to hear it.

Your diet is shit, your training is shit, you aren't over training, and you are just wasting Test with idiot dosing.

Take the advice.

100% but it just doesn't sound good to kids nowadays. Tell them some secret shortcut and sell them some new shit. They're all ears then.

 

[HeatherSwanson]

I weight about 200 right now.

Havnt read the rest of the thread but you're about 2/3 of your caloric and protein minimum requirements for the amount of gear you're using if you're training properly.

Find your Total Daily Minimum Energy (caloric) TDME requirements first. Weigh yourself same time everyday in the morning post piss and chart it. See what your weight is doing. Then add 100 calories within Marco spec and chart for a week to see what happens. If you're shrinking and BF stays the same you're under eating ... Which is almost a gaurentee if you're not skinny fat.

I'm 205 everyday, abbs all year round, 5'10" and eat 3200-3500 calories as maintenance. Obviously we are all different and I'm extremely active so my numbers might be out to lunch but I'd hedge a bet you're under.

 

[MikeIronTyson]

I’m running something similar - 600test, 600deca, 50dbol. I’m also running HGH 5iu/day and GHRP-6 (which will make you hungry as fuck so you might want to check that out). Your problem is lack of eating, plus you lost water weight when you dropped the dbol. Get MyNetDiary from the App Store. Super easy to track your macros. At 220 6’1” I’m starting my bulk at 4,000 calories and that’s all clean foods + 1/3 serving of a mass gain protein shake for additional carbs (helps with carb bloat). I have to watch out to not go over that tbh so that’s nice knowing I’ll have to raise calorie intake with the additional ~30lbs I should gain. 40%protein 40%carbs 20%fat.

 

[lukiss96]

I’m running something similar - 600test, 600deca, 50dbol. I’m also running HGH 5iu/day and GHRP-6 (which will make you hungry as fuck so you might want to check that out). Your problem is lack of eating, plus you lost water weight when you dropped the dbol. Get MyNetDiary from the App Store. Super easy to track your macros. At 220 6’1” I’m starting my bulk at 4,000 calories and that’s all clean foods + 1/3 serving of a mass gain protein shake for additional carbs (helps with carb bloat). I have to watch out to not go over that tbh so that’s nice knowing I’ll have to raise calorie intake with the additional ~30lbs I should gain. 40%protein 40%carbs 20%fat.

That's a lot of gear and other stuff. It would be a crime to not grow on that much.

 

[jJjburton]

Havnt read the rest of the thread but you're about 2/3 of your caloric and protein minimum requirements for the amount of gear you're using if you're training properly.

Find your Total Daily Minimum Energy (caloric) TDME requirements first. Weigh yourself same time everyday in the morning post piss and chart it. See what your weight is doing. Then add 100 calories within Marco spec and chart for a week to see what happens. If you're shrinking and BF stays the same you're under eating ... Which is almost a gaurentee if you're not skinny fat.

I'm 205 everyday, abbs all year round, 5'10" and eat 3200-3500 calories as maintenance. Obviously we are all different and I'm extremely active so my numbers might be out to lunch but I'd hedge a bet you're under.

Where are you coming up with the 2/3 number?

 

[MikeIronTyson]

That's a lot of gear and other stuff. It would be a crime to not grow on that much.

Holy fucking back pumps. Damn near crippled me at work today.

 

[HeatherSwanson]

Where are you coming up with the 2/3 number?

My TDME requirement is like 3500 calories... For maintenance. Im super active, train like a demon and have other sports I participate in.
2300 calories a day is about 2/3 of that, a number that guys use to cut at our bodyweight, around 200lbs.

 

[Thecabanaboy]

No results = no shock to the body.

Switch up routines
Look up Mike Mentzer
He has some interesting theories.

 

[slobbonmycob]

So just an update, I've stopped the cycle a little early.
I started at 190lbs and am ending cycle at about 202lbs.
I've very large increases in strength but my size isn't where I want it to be quite yet. I upped my calories and protein intake like everyone said but unfortunately it wasn't until the middle of my cycle. Going forward I will definitely do better diet wise.
I have AI on hand and will be running 40/40/20/20 of Tamoxifen after being off cycle for 2 weeks. Will probably get blood work again soon.

 

[slobbonmycob]

It could be underdosed. When I was on 500mg on week 3 I was at around 2500ng/dl. Find a reliable source. Eat and and train hard. Your test is still above normal you will make gains. Gains arnt instant they take time. If you want to continue with this cycle go for it you will make gains aslong as you’re eating and training right. Pull bloods 2-3 weeks after you started the 1g and see where they are then.

So my labs don't give an exact number, only that it's greater than 1500.

 

[bigboy420]

It could be underdosed. When I was on 500mg on week 3 I was at around 2500ng/dl. Find a reliable source. Eat and and train hard. Your test is still above normal you will make gains. Gains arnt instant they take time. If you want to continue with this cycle go for it you will make gains aslong as you’re eating and training right. Pull bloods 2-3 weeks after you started the 1g and see where they are then.

Dude doesnt know how to train and he should go for a G if test?

Thats the world we life in. He should pin TRT and learn the basics first if ya ask me.

 

[grey]

So my labs don't give an exact number, only that it's greater than 1500.

You are ordering the wrong bloodwork then.

You need the sensitive test (or just order the one used for females) same thing.

 

[HeatherSwanson]

Dude doesnt know how to train and he should go for a G if test?

Thats the world we life in. He should pin TRT and learn the basics first if ya ask me.

Just by the statement of caloric intake he's out of scope of knowledge to be using that much gear.

 

[PaintDrinker]

Umm start eating 4000 calories like tomorrow dude

 

[lukiss96]

Just by the statement of caloric intake he's out of scope of knowledge to be using that much gear.

He's out of scope to even think about steroids. Damn, I miss those times when average gym goers and others thought that steroids are for bodybuilders and freaks only lol. Brb popping dbol pills to look like Arnold.