Neo Anabolics (US DOMESTIC)

[HereToTeachAndLearn]

@NeoAnabolics , be careful on what you commit to with these yahoos. They do not have your best interests in mind, since you are only a means to an end.

I will add his band of idiots to my IGNORE list and finally be able to read here in peace. Fuck all of them.

 

[Dirthand]

something as simple and inexpensive as sterility testing

Sterility testing is janos most expensive harm reduction test...at 240usd.... however I feel it's one of the most important that can be performed. If i have found a way to do it for my homebrew out if my poor man's blue callor budget.. I do not see why it's a big struggle is for these dealers making money hand over fist.. yes this guy might just be starting out si I understand the finacial stress that may cause... however if your gonna play the game. Fuck run with the ball!!!
Peace

They do not have your best interests in mind, s

I really don't have a dog in the hunt but just out if curiosity the way I read this is you think the best interest of the source is more important than the interest of the end user?
Peace
D

 

[readalot]

I will add his band of idiots to my IGNORE list and finally be able to read here in peace

No you won't. You said you put me on ignore what, 5 times now?

Address my comments above. Explain how this testing will benefit both customers and source. Pretty simple.

 

[readalot]

I can send two different bottles for sterility testing

I will send off 2 bottles to test and we will see what the outcomes are.

Also, don't pull an Axle, regardless what happens. Don't come back later and make some excuse for why the samples didn't get run (got lost, member who pushed for the testing got banned, any other BS). Say what you mean and mean what you say.

Regarding sterility, this isn't some one off proof of concept. The sterility of a injectable product line is only as good as the last batch results. If 240 USD is too much for your operation per batch of injectable oil, then find another option/lab, etc.

 

[iris]

I don't see it as a revolutionary step forward in harm reduction like some preach.



Yeah it's really only a few trying to gaslight and shame the crowd into action, to be part of their team.

Alex, maybe you have written this somewhere, but could I ask you why you think sterility testing is not something that should be requested?

Is it because nobody here has had problems that may be related to that and so you assume that the production procedures of these labs are adequate?

 

[AlexDavis43]

these dealers making money hand over fist..

I see people making this assumption about many sources.

 

[Dirthand]

I see people making this assumption about many sources.

Do you run their books for them???

 

[readalot]

Do you run their books for them???

I'm starting to lean towards that as a credible hypothesis.

 

[readalot]

Alex, maybe you have written this somewhere, but could I ask you why you think sterility testing is not something that should be requested?

Is it because nobody here has had problems that may be related to that and so you assume that the production procedures of these labs are adequate?

You may be waiting a while.

 

[iris]

You may be waiting a while.

I mean, he doesn't need to reply.
I think what BWare wrote you today is what he supports, also.

BTW, Bware is a really fine gentleman.
I really like him, he is thoughtful and considerate.
He has done a lot of testing and, iirc, also tested the same substance with 3 different labs, for comparison.
He has certainly made individual contributions that benefitted everyone here.
I am sure you value the exchange you had with him, earlier.

I am trying to look at this, from both sides.
Reconciling sentiments and finding a solution to calm things down is what I hope for.
But I think what may, eventually, happen is that a lab will test for sterility for one batch, prove that it is sterile and that will be considered enough (by the majority?) to acknowledge safe manufacturing practices from the source.
However, that will not be enough for you and the members supporting your requests.
If that is how it goes, how is this dealt with, for everyone's sake?

I understand your point of view and how strongly you feel about this.
But the level of alienation amongst many members cannot be dismissed, either.
Idk, I am a retard, but I would like a compromise to be found.

X

 

[readalot]

I am sure you value the exchange you had with him, earlier.

I absolutely do. And I appreciate him taking the time.

I am trying to look at this, from both sides.
Reconciling sentiments and finding a solution to calm things down is what I hope for.
But I think what may, eventually, happen is that a lab will test for sterility for one batch, prove that it is sterile and that will be considered enough (by the majority?) to acknowledge safe manufacturing practices from the source.

That would be a mistake IMO. The whole idea behind this when it comes to sterility is having surveillance on each batch. No different that what is expected on the HPLC analysis. The members want to know their muscle building ju-ju is in there. They should also want to know the shit is somewhat safe to inject.

However, that will not be enough for you and the members supporting your requests.
If that is how it goes, howis this dealt with, for everyone's sake?

I guess if we are successful we will have some vendors who adopt the improved standard and some who don't. I can't really see a vendor having two parallel product lines (one with sterility testing for each batch and one without). Too much work and hassle.

I understand your point of view and how strongly you feel about this.
But the level of alienation amongst many members cannot be dismissed, either.
Idk, I am a retard, but I would like a compromise to be found.

You are a good person. The compromise in my mind at this point is the sterility testing on each batch of injectable oils. We will see the data when it comes back on the rest of the testing categories.

Thanks for your thoughts.

 

[readalot]

I think what BWare wrote you today is what he supports, also.

Sorry forgot to add that quote to response. No I don't think that is true at all. The only way sterility is worth a damn is if it becomes part of standardized testing.

But maybe I read too much into B Ware's comments. I thought he would come around to standardized sterility. You can't just hope that 1 or 2 one off tests will carry forward in perpetuity. No one agrees to that for HPLC. The next batch is only as good as its test results, right?

 

[NeoAnabolics]

I mean, he doesn't need to reply.
I think what BWare wrote you today is what he supports, also.

BTW, Bware is a really fine gentleman.
I really like him, he is thoughtful and considerate.
He has done a lot of testing and, iirc, also tested the same substance with 3 different labs, for comparison.
He has certainly made individual contributions that benefitted everyone here.
I am sure you value the exchange you had with him, earlier.

I am trying to look at this, from both sides.
Reconciling sentiments and finding a solution to calm things down is what I hope for.
But I think what may, eventually, happen is that a lab will test for sterility for one batch, prove that it is sterile and that will be considered enough (by the majority?) to acknowledge safe manufacturing practices from the source.
However, that will not be enough for you and the members supporting your requests.
If that is how it goes, how is this dealt with, for everyone's sake?

I understand your point of view and how strongly you feel about this.
But the level of alienation amongst many members cannot be dismissed, either.
Idk, I am a retard, but I would like a compromise to be found.

X

Wow. Great post! I agree with you, I think if two test I send off come back clear then that proves a point and debunks the myth some claim that my fear is not sterile. Moving forward we shall see how the community reacts. I am also waiting on Janos input in regards to how common this is. Also, salute to Bware. I looked into him and saw what he has done for the community and the value he brings to meso.

 

[readalot]

Wow. Great post! I agree with you, I think if two test I send off come back clear then that proves a point and debunks the myth some claim that my fear is not sterile. Moving forward we shall see how the community reacts. I am also waiting on Janos input in regards to how common this is. Also, salute to Bware. I looked into him and saw what he has done for the community and the value he brings to meso.

I was wondering how you were going to handle this. Sending two vials as a one off proves nothing. Why don't you try that with HPLC tests too? Save some money.

 

[HereToTeachAndLearn]

I was wondering how you were going to handle this. Sending two vials as a one off proves nothing. Why don't you try that with HPLC tests too? Save some money.

Bubbleboy fails again. Keep trying....

 

[AlexDavis43]

Wow. Great post! I agree with you, I think if two test I send off come back clear then that proves a point and debunks the myth some claim that my fear is not sterile. Moving forward we shall see how the community reacts. I am also waiting on Janos input in regards to how common this is. Also, salute to Bware. I looked into him and saw what he has done for the community and the value he brings to meso.

Even if the vials come back clear, it won't shut them up.

 

[readalot]

Bubbleboy fails again

Haha. Man you are another thick one. How can one be so gd stupid? Are you acting or really this unintelligent? Genuinely curious.

 

[readalot]

Even if the vials come back clear, it won't shut them up.

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Give your PhD back. Haha. You have no excuse. What a sell out you've shown yourself to be. Good to know.

Abandon all future HPLC testing after a source shows two good ones.

Lmao.

 

[HereToTeachAndLearn]

Bubbleboy gets frustrated when he fails to gain traction and loses his shit. You are doing great, Bubbleboy. Keep telling yourself that. If you keep throwing shit everywhere, it is bound to stick somewhere.

You should try this shit with QSC, but likely do not have the balls to do so. That is why you continue bullying this guy. Show some balls, talk to QSC.

You won’t because you are loser.

Edit: This will be my FINAL interaction with this loser.

 

[readalot]

Alex, maybe you have written this somewhere, but could I ask you why you think sterility testing is not something that should be requested?

Is it because nobody here has had problems that may be related to that and so you assume that the production procedures of these labs are adequate?

I've set my calendar to check back on a reply here in one year. I don't think it is coming though. Easier to make snide remarks and undermine harm reduction rather than try to untwist oneself from an indefensible position arguing against standardizing sterility testing.

You are stuck one you go there but then support standardized HPLC testing. The true colors come out. Our bottom of the boot licking crew only care about the AAS content of the injectable. Infection risks? "Nah, bruh just send it. Yeah!"