mild niple pain/tiny ammount of liquid comes out when I squeeze them.. what's to do??

JonIrenicus

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My last cycle was ended 3 months ago, which it consisted of of Tren/Test. I did the AI/SERM by proper protocol so I'm not sure what could be happening.


A bout a month of ago, my nipples started hurting; this really mild pain, especially at night and in the morning. It's been on and off since then. Last night I was feeling my nipple after it started hurting and I squeezed it really hard; a tiny (the size of needle head) droplet of clear liquid came out. I did the same for the other nipple and sure enough, another droplet of liquid.

What's going on here? Should I get letro or prami?
 
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My last cycle was ended 3 months ago, which it consisted of of Tren/Test. I did the AI/SERM by proper protocol so I'm not sure what could be happening.


A bout a month of ago, my nipples started hurting; this really mild pain, especially at night and in the morning. It's been on and off since then. Last night I was feeling my nipple after it started hurting and I squeezed it really hard; a tiny (the size of needle head) droplet of clear liquid came out. I did the same for the other nipple and sure enough, another droplet of liquid.

What's going on here? Should I get letro or prami?

Tren-induced prolactin response bro. Caber or Prami, but Caber preferably as it has an easier dosing schedule and better half-life/active-life.

Letro you can use as well, estrogen raises prolactin, but only use it if its a clear problem as well. Use a lower-therapeutic dose with the letro.
 
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Tren-induced prolactin response bro. Caber or Prami, but Caber preferably as it has an easier dosing schedule and better half-life/active-life.

Letro you can use as well, estrogen raises prolactin, but only use it if its a clear problem as well. Use a lower-therapeutic dose with the letro.

I only have Prami on hand =/

What sort of dosages should I be running? How long?
 
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I only have Prami on hand =/

What sort of dosages should I be running? How long?

Well that's sufficient far as prolactin, in some cases people actually like Prami better.

Here's another discussion for reference as well.​



And medical doctrine for the haters. -_-​



Anyway, you can begin with .05 mg...have you ever used any dopaminergics before???

Work your way up to 1mg if needed. Some may even go up to 1.5 mg, but keep in mind to dose @ night. They will make you tired most likely, also vivid dreams, and drowsiness upon standing at times is *possible*, due to vasodilation.
 
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Well that's sufficient far as prolactin, in some cases people actually like Prami better.

Here's another discussion for reference as well.​



And medical doctrine for the haters. -_-​



Anyway, you can begin with .05 mg...have you ever used any dopaminergics before???

Work your way up to 1mg if needed. Some may even go up to 1.5 mg, but keep in mind to dose @ night. They will make you tired most likely, also vivid dreams, and drowsiness upon standing at times is *possible*, due to vasodilation.

Thanks!

I used Prami a bit during cycle when my nipples started to hurt. I didn't have any weird reaction to it or anything of the sort.

1- stop squeezing them (serious)
2- get bloodwork

I wouldn't have time to get the blood work until the week after next.. can I use the prami in the meanwhile?
 
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Thanks!

I used Prami a bit during cycle when my nipples started to hurt. I didn't have any weird reaction to it or anything of the sort.



I wouldn't have time to get the blood work until the week after next.. can I use the prami in the meanwhile?


Besides mild lactation, other symptoms of prolactin elevation would be puffy nips, sore nips (can be estrogen as well), low libido/decreased potency, changes (namely increase in body hair and possibly balding), hair loss, oily skin, depression or lack of emotion(1)(2)(3)[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperprolactinaemia"](4)[/ame].

**Keep in mind you may only have one or two of these**​

You don't HAVE to get bloodwork but I would recommend it so you/we know for sure...do you still have the letro on hand just in case? It would help and can/possibly should be used as add-on.

**Always good to have shit documented**​
 
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Besides mild lactation, other symptoms of prolactin elevation would be puffy nips, sore nips (can be estrogen as well), low libido/decreased potency, changes (namely increase in body hair and possibly balding), hair loss, oily skin, depression or lack of emotion(1)(2)(3)(4).

**Keep in mind you may only have one or two of these**​

You don't HAVE to get bloodwork but I would recommend it so you/we know for sure...do you still have the letro on hand just in case? It would help and can/possibly should be used as add-on.

**Always good to have shit documented**​

I just ordered some Caber and Letro online.. it should be in towards the end of the week. I'll start running letro asap also.
 
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I just ordered some Caber and Letro online.. it should be in towards the end of the week. I'll start running letro asap also.

Nice, we talkin an RC site or pill form?
 
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Nice! They got Follistatin on there too. Will have to check them out.
 
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Tren-induced prolactin response bro. Caber or Prami, but Caber preferably as it has an easier dosing schedule and better half-life/active-life.

Letro you can use as well, estrogen raises prolactin, but only use it if its a clear problem as well. Use a lower-therapeutic dose with the letro.


There is NO evidence showing trenbolone raises prolaction OR causes gynecomastia. It's a myth.
 
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There is NO evidence showing trenbolone raises prolaction OR causes gynecomastia. It's a myth.

I'm not even gonna bother with this one, you Tell that the HUNDREDs of THOUSANDS of people who have used Tren and gotten prolactin elevations and Gyno! Tren has a strong progestogenic effect, that means it has the capability to increase prolactin just by means of knowing how that pathway works! :o

:)
 
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I'm not even gonna bother with this one, you Tell that the HUNDREDs of THOUSANDS of people who have used Tren and gotten prolactin elevations and Gyno! Tren has a strong progestogenic effect, that means it has the capability to increase prolactin just by means of knowing how that pathway works! :o

:)

Cite your evidence.
 
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Cite your evidence.

Well first off here is the information regarding Progesterone and 5-ARs (ya lower DHT, ya might create E-2 dominance and PRL elevations anyway). Common Knowledge.



Now those are hormone studies with clear indicators. Now let's get to TREN specifically.

Disposition of 17 beta-trenbolone in humans. [J Chromatogr. 1991] - PubMed - NCBI
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12785594
Pharmacological and endocrinological ... [Environ Qual Saf Suppl. 1976] - PubMed - NCBI
The fate of trenbolone acetate and melengestrol acetate after application as growth promoters in cattle: environmental studies.


...AND the Personal REPORTS.

Reversing tren gyno

possible to get gyno on tren?


tren induced gyno?!


ONE OF OUR OWN :O
_________________________________________________________
http://thinksteroids.com/forum/steroid-forum/how-does-trenbolone-e-134286392.html


 
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You make it too easy, Contagion. NONE of those studies supports your assertion. In fact, this one shows trenbolone is NOT or is only weakly progestationally active:


Environ Qual Saf Suppl. 1976;(5):253-64.
Pharmacological and endocrinological studies on anabolic agents.

Neumann F. Pharmacological and endocrinological ... [Environ Qual Saf Suppl. 1976] - PubMed - NCBI

Abstract

When used in connection with animal production the term "anabolic agents" covers a wide range. Ther steroidal male and female sex hormones are included in this list, as are the nonsteroidal estrogens. For the clinician and for the endocrinologist, anabolics are only steroids chemically related to testosterone and 19-nortestosterone. Estrogens, though possessing anabolic properties, too, do not belong to this class. This paper will deal with anabolic agents in in the stricter sense of which mainly trenbolone acetate combined with hexestrol has been recommended for bull and heifer fattening. To consider possible consumer injury from ingestion of meat from anabolic agent treated animals, it is necessary to know the pharmacological properties of the agents, the doses producing certain effects or might produce, and the levels of residues in the meat. Trenbolone acetate will be compared with the following anabolic agents: methenolone acetate, methandrostenolone, nandrone, androstanazole, and 19-nortestosterone. The activity spectrum of trenbolone acetate is similar to that of 19-nortestosterone or those anabolics that are derived from 19-nortestosterone. The compound has about three times stronger androgenic effect than testosterone propionate. Its index of dissociation between anabolic/androgenic activity is 2--3. This index is 3--10 for the other anabolic agents. As regards the virilizing potency, trenbolone acetate is also on the top of the list. It seems that androgenicity and degree of virilization run paralle. The antigonadotropic activity (inhibition of ovulation and testicular growth) of trenbolone acetate exceeds that of testosterone propionate by the factor 3. The compound is not estrogenic and seemingly not or only weakly progestationally active. In principle, the androgenic activity (symptoms of virilization) as well as the antigonadotropic effect (disturbances of the menstrual cycle in women, inhibition of spermiogenesis in men) of trenbolone acetate might be noted. This risk, however, can be excluded by mere calculation. In rats, 0.1 mg/kg trenbolone acetate have an antigonadotropic effect. This corresponds to a daily dose of 5--7 mg in humans. By the same extrapolation, a daily human dose of 100 mg can be calculated for androgenic activity. Such factors of conversion are, of course, not precise because rats are much less sensitive to androgens and anabolics than humans. Thus, testosterone propionate is active only in daily doses of 10--20 mg. If in humans trenbolone acetate also has three times the activity of testosterone propionate, effects in man had to be counted with not less than a daily intake of 3--5 mg trenbolone acetate. The dose which is recommended for livestock fattening is 300 mg. IT can, therefore, be excluded almost with certainty that the meat would contain such large amounts of hormone residues.

...AND the Personal REPORTS.

Worthless garbage.

I would normally tell you to try again but since it's clear you don't understand the literatute, or even what is acceptable literature, and since I'm also tiring of toying with you, I will tell you evidence showing trenbolone increases PRL or induces gynecomastia doesn't exist. Oops, you lose... AGAIN. You're welcome to keep searching, though.
 
Re: mild niple pain/tiny ammount of liquid comes out when I squeeze them.. what's to

You make it too easy, Contagion. NONE of those studies supports your assertion. In fact, this one shows trenbolone is NOT or is only weakly progestationally active:


Environ Qual Saf Suppl. 1976;(5):253-64.
Pharmacological and endocrinological studies on anabolic agents.

Neumann F. Pharmacological and endocrinological ... [Environ Qual Saf Suppl. 1976] - PubMed - NCBI

Abstract

When used in connection with animal production the term "anabolic agents" covers a wide range. Ther steroidal male and female sex hormones are included in this list, as are the nonsteroidal estrogens. For the clinician and for the endocrinologist, anabolics are only steroids chemically related to testosterone and 19-nortestosterone. Estrogens, though possessing anabolic properties, too, do not belong to this class. This paper will deal with anabolic agents in in the stricter sense of which mainly trenbolone acetate combined with hexestrol has been recommended for bull and heifer fattening. To consider possible consumer injury from ingestion of meat from anabolic agent treated animals, it is necessary to know the pharmacological properties of the agents, the doses producing certain effects or might produce, and the levels of residues in the meat. Trenbolone acetate will be compared with the following anabolic agents: methenolone acetate, methandrostenolone, nandrone, androstanazole, and 19-nortestosterone. The activity spectrum of trenbolone acetate is similar to that of 19-nortestosterone or those anabolics that are derived from 19-nortestosterone. The compound has about three times stronger androgenic effect than testosterone propionate. Its index of dissociation between anabolic/androgenic activity is 2--3. This index is 3--10 for the other anabolic agents. As regards the virilizing potency, trenbolone acetate is also on the top of the list. It seems that androgenicity and degree of virilization run paralle. The antigonadotropic activity (inhibition of ovulation and testicular growth) of trenbolone acetate exceeds that of testosterone propionate by the factor 3. The compound is not estrogenic and seemingly not or only weakly progestationally active. In principle, the androgenic activity (symptoms of virilization) as well as the antigonadotropic effect (disturbances of the menstrual cycle in women, inhibition of spermiogenesis in men) of trenbolone acetate might be noted. This risk, however, can be excluded by mere calculation. In rats, 0.1 mg/kg trenbolone acetate have an antigonadotropic effect. This corresponds to a daily dose of 5--7 mg in humans. By the same extrapolation, a daily human dose of 100 mg can be calculated for androgenic activity. Such factors of conversion are, of course, not precise because rats are much less sensitive to androgens and anabolics than humans. Thus, testosterone propionate is active only in daily doses of 10--20 mg. If in humans trenbolone acetate also has three times the activity of testosterone propionate, effects in man had to be counted with not less than a daily intake of 3--5 mg trenbolone acetate. The dose which is recommended for livestock fattening is 300 mg. IT can, therefore, be excluded almost with certainty that the meat would contain such large amounts of hormone residues.



Worthless garbage.

I would normally tell you to try again but since it's clear you don't understand the literatute and since I'm also tiring of toying with you, I will tell you evidence showing trenbolone increases PRL or induces gynecomastia doesn't exist. Oops, you lose... AGAIN. You're welcome to keep searching, though.


Wrong. Look at the other studies, and also...anything that suppresses natty T-production would have to do it through a negative feedback mechanism, why do you think Testosterone is considered male "birth control" in high amounts?
And say it didn't have progestin effects at all, which is not what is said again.

Still would have to raise prolactin because of the HIGH affinity on the Androgen Receptor. And how do you explain all the reports Above?

So until you speak up some sense. You have lost, and you really just embarrassed yourself a Whole Lot ;)


~! Coming @ Me in a Debate is the Worst Thing You can do for Yourself ;) !~
 
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Wrong. Look at the other studies, and also...anything that suppresses natty T-production would have to do it through a negative feedback mechanism, why do you think Testosterone is considered male "birth control" in high amounts?
And say it didn't have progestin effects at all, which is not what is said again.

Still would have to raise prolactin because of the HIGH affinity on the Androgen Receptor. And how do you explain all the reports Above?

So until you speak up some sense. You have lost, and you really just embarrassed yourself a Whole Lot ;)

Well, here is your chance to embarrass me "a whole lot." Post evidence showing trenbolone increases PRL and induces gynecomastia.

I don't want anecdotes, speculation or a physiology lesson. I want proof that supports your assertion.
 
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Well, here is your chance to embarrass me "a whole lot." Post evidence showing trenbolone increases PRL and induces gynecomastia.

I don't want anecdotes or a physiology lesson, just proof that supports your assertion.

I did. And it's all with the people as well. I'll dig up more studies, but finish reading EVERY LAST ONE of the others that I posted already.
 
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You will wanna see THIS THREAD as well. The Highlight is Below.

Trenbolone is a PgR ligand with mixed agonist/antagonist activity. Perhaps more importantly it also highly suppresses natural progesterone as well as alters its metabolism. Antagonist action at the PgR can be just as much an issue as agonist action. And of course agonist action does not mean that it has the same modulatory effects on ER as progesterone. Nor does it mean that it has the same transcriptional effects as progesterone.

Its not entirely clear whether trenbolone always raises prolactin, in some cases it certainly appears to. It's more consistent effects may be as an allosteric modulator of PRL-R activation and/or expression. However, what can be said with certainty is that prolactin suppression is effective in the treatment of issues that stem from trenbolone, including both libido and gynecomastia."

"Basically just because something is a PgR agonist or a PgR antagonist does not mean that its activity will be the same or opposite of progesterone. Also because these compounds are a bit "slutty", you can be sure that they will be binding to other sites, especially when other hormones are suppressed or when ratios are different. Progesterone is actually a very widely acting hormone and it has numerous active neurosteroid metabolites. Trenbolone metabolites likely have some similar actions (or at least metabolic pathways)."


 
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