Too much liquid comes out at once, it is normal for it to come out drop by drop.
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0.2 µm too slow! Anyone safely use 0.45 µm?
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narta
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What's your filtering setup?
I use a caulking gun, 50ml syringe and it comes out a steady stream even filtering castor oil. No infections whatsoever the last 20+ years, so it's working as intended (I use phatmakoepeia grade oils though, already filtered)
I use a caulking gun, 50ml syringe and it comes out a steady stream even filtering castor oil. No infections whatsoever the last 20+ years, so it's working as intended (I use phatmakoepeia grade oils though, already filtered)
I use a 10ml syringe, GSO oil and I do it by hand to make low quantities like 80ml but for higher quantities I use an automatic filtering system. The strange thing is that with the previous filters, when pressing, it was very difficult for the oil to come out even when it was hot and when the filter broke, a largo Stream came out and this is what has happened to me with this new batch of filters since the beginning of filtering
narta
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Open up a filter a see it broke. I honestly dunno.
Not a bad idea but if i was going put the effort to do 2 filterings i would just use the .22 for both. Filtering doesn't take all that much time for me. It is just the lack of ambition that keeps me from doing it.
narta
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One could always by pharmacopeia grade oil and solvents and get away from double filtration.
PES usually has high flow rates form my reading. So you may have got a bad batch. But i have always used PVDF so i have no personnel experience.
narta
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On a second thought, those PTFE are hydrohilic or hydrophobic?
PTFE. hydrophilic
Astartes
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.45 is quicker and filters out major microbes and non biological detritus. That is why I use .45 as prefiltration.
Astartes
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One would have to not be anal retentive and giggle like Dexter when he starts playing crazy lab scientist.
I've been using 0.45um's for 15+yrs bro, started out using them and still use them to this day. Never had an issue with anything and I've pinned a LOT of home brew!
Only time I've ever run 0.22um's is with water based products (so not often at all) and its a pain in the ass every single time!
You need to ask yourself, what are you trying to filter out with a 0.22um... Bacteria? Shouldn't be a major issue with the BA in the solution.
What about the vials? Are they going into a sterile clean room once sterilized.... Or are most people pulling them out of the oven, then sitting them on their kitchen bench with all the airborne bacteria floating around, filter the solution through a 0.22 and think its sterilized and not taking into account what got in to the vial while open/filling in a non-sterile room...
BA to the rescue!
End of the day though, its YOUR body, so YOU need to be comfortable with your decision! I'm just some random you will likely never meet but I can offer my anecdotal experience and you can do with it what you like.
I have often wondered over the years just how many people that use 0.22um's thinking its giving a cleaner end product have instead micro ruptured the filter membrane and in reality don't have any filtering going in.... Every time I've tried using 0.22's, its mind numbingly slow and I've always been tempted to up the pressure to speed up the process, but I know the likely result if I try. I suspect many people do go that route to try speed it up.
Here's a link to a decent explanation of filters, selecting the right one and applications.
How to Select a Syringe Filter and How to Use it? (2020 Guide)
How to Select a Syringe Filter and How to Use it? (2020 Guide) Knowledge of Syringe Filter Membrane, Pore Size, Diameter, and Usage Guide In this article: As a Syringe Filters ManufacturerWhat is a syringe filter?How to Select a Right Syringe Filter?Syringe Filter Bestsellers...
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I'm still kicking Brother! 2005 and still rocking the 0.45's
LOL, I still remember the boys breaking down those Tren cattle implants and using coffee filters! I swear 1/2 them never run a final filter on that shit!
Was a fun time to be a guineapig! Worst that got me was to much BA in a IP jug..... Still pinned that whole 100ml and walked around work every time with a single ass cheek blown so far up that my mate used to joke he could sit a coke can on the top of it while I was standing up.
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I remember years and years ago on bodybuilding forums a guy dressed like he was a cowboy and went to tractor supply to buy tren implants. Probably the funniest thing I've ever seen on the internetI'm still kicking Brother! 2005 and still rocking the 0.45's
LOL, I still remember the boys breaking down those Tren cattle implants and using coffee filters! I swear 1/2 them never run a final filter on that shit!
Was a fun time to be a guineapig! Worst that got me was to much BA in a IP jug..... Still pinned that whole 100ml and walked around work every time with a single ass cheek blown so far up that my mate used to joke he could sit a coke can on the top of it while I was standing up.
Hello, I received PVDF filters today and they work as they should, the PTFE ones I bought and the oil came out too quickly were all 12 broken... I have already been able to filter the 250mg deca perfectly.
From now on I will only use PVDF
Plate Smacker
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I'm just bored reading old posts,lol. I used .45 um for YEARS on end,I never had a batch that was bad or hurt unless I used more than 1% ba... I could have sworn .45 um was the standard for a really long time... I guess it was years ago when I first started this .. I honestly don't think I ever used a .2 um till a year or two ago ...I'm not even sure why I switched.. I think because I fucked up and bought the smaller ones and realized they worked.. The only bad bottle of test I ever had was one I bought from a lab, I did a shot in my quad and couldn't walk right for a week, I never did another shot in my leg for 15 years, because I never forgot how bad it hurt,lol I learned how to brew right after that, and I started making my own many years ago, I never had a bad experience like that ever again. I literally never bought a bottle of test from a lab again because of that shit, I had to take off work I couldn't fucking walk.
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Plate Smacker
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The issue was most likely the fact a hand pump does not hold constant pressure and begins to drop. All the filters flow fine when using a electronic vacuum pump. Keeps constant pressure but needle is bouncing. This pulsating seems to keep constant drips while filtering.
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Ghoul
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Most people with functioning immune systems can handle plenty of bacteria from non-sterile injections without any noticeable symptoms,
Via IM injections some bacteria can reach joints causing septic arthritis, and even once killed by the immune system, bacteria leaves behind endotoxin, which causes reactive arthritis.
Injectable drug users develop arthritis at much higher rates than non-users, and one of the reasons why many needle exchanges started providing .22um syringe filters which are 99.9% effective at removing bacteria, vs about 90% for .45um (depends on the type of bacteria).
Also, arterioles, the blood vessels that feed capillaries, are from 10-50um in diameter. Any undissolved particulates in that range not filtered out can create blockages, causing inflammation and pain from tissue death, and organ damage, especially the kidneys.
These things are not going to be noticeable from a single injection, but the damage from hundreds or thousands of them over years can take a toll on your health, and probably just get attributed to "old age".
Via IM injections some bacteria can reach joints causing septic arthritis, and even once killed by the immune system, bacteria leaves behind endotoxin, which causes reactive arthritis.
Injectable drug users develop arthritis at much higher rates than non-users, and one of the reasons why many needle exchanges started providing .22um syringe filters which are 99.9% effective at removing bacteria, vs about 90% for .45um (depends on the type of bacteria).
Also, arterioles, the blood vessels that feed capillaries, are from 10-50um in diameter. Any undissolved particulates in that range not filtered out can create blockages, causing inflammation and pain from tissue death, and organ damage, especially the kidneys.
These things are not going to be noticeable from a single injection, but the damage from hundreds or thousands of them over years can take a toll on your health, and probably just get attributed to "old age".
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That's good to know man, It's crazy all the things you learn that you never had any idea about... I was an iv drug user for many years until I got sober, It's crazy to look back and think of the crazy shit we did, just throw any thing you can get your hands on a spoon, mix it with some water, soda, f****** anything you could find in a bottle on the floor of the car to make it wet, suck that s*** up with a cigarette filter and slam it. Crystal meth that s***'s so f****** corrosive, It feels like acid burning in your arm when you shoot it, never had any worries or cares in the world, when you're older you look back and think and that was f****** crazy, how the hell am I still alive.
