MESO-Rx Exclusive 1-Testosterone (DHB): Effects, Risks, and Hepatotoxicity

[narta]

But you can confirm first hand that it does hold no problem without using any extreme solvents like guaiacol, correct?

Yes I can confirm that.

 

[Sampei]

Yes I can confirm that.

Told ya @Type-IIx

 

[curveball2025]

Yes I can confirm that.

+1

 

[Type-IIx]

That’s cool

 

[espresso123]

Relevant genetic factors include those here: What is the Meaning of "Genetics" for Bodybuilding?

Highly interesting there is someone out there offering coaching on that level.
I just had my AR CAG repeats tested in my genes prior going on TRT.


Ontopic:
I did not know much about DHB but to me it appears some compounds just pop up every few years getting some sort of hype and the demand for these substances goes up.
Just my personal impression.

I personally dislike the side effect profile of that compound, thanks for sharing these information.
But who am I to point my finger at, most of us are doing "irrational" things and gotta pay the price of our actions.

 

[curveball2025]

Highly interesting there is someone out there offering coaching on that level.
I just had my AR CAG repeats tested in my genes prior going on TRT.


Ontopic:
I did not know much about DHB but to me it appears some compounds just pop up every few years getting some sort of hype and the demand for these substances goes up.
Just my personal impression.

I personally dislike the side effect profile of that compound, thanks for sharing these information.
But who am I to point my finger at, most of us are doing "irrational" things and gotta pay the price of our actions.

I have run DHB, consistently, for about a year. Initially, when my wife made it at 100mg/ml, I would limp for a week. She gradually reduced the concentration until we got to the sweet spot of 70mg/ml. I inject 70mg daily and have no PIP and no sides that I am aware of.

I love DHB.

 

[Sampei]

I have run DHB, consistently, for about a year. Initially, when my wife made it at 100mg/ml, I would limp for a week. She gradually reduced the concentration until we got to the sweet spot of 70mg/ml. I inject 70mg daily and have no PIP and no sides that I am aware of.

I love DHB.

Your wife brew your gear? Ahahhahah fucking awesome. I wish mine was into this stuff

How much do you take weekly?
Have you ever checked your c-reactive protein during use of dhb?

 

[espresso123]

I have run DHB, consistently, for about a year. Initially, when my wife made it at 100mg/ml, I would limp for a week. She gradually reduced the concentration until we got to the sweet spot of 70mg/ml. I inject 70mg daily and have no PIP and no sides that I am aware of.

I love DHB.

Yea would be interesting how much you are running in total and/or what your stack is and as @Sampei asked how did it affect your bloodwork (if you got a comparison to other stacks you ran)?

And last but not least, does it give you any benefits over other compounds (which you could possibly run higher with less sides)? In the end it is a personal decision based on your goals, but it is always interesting to get first hand experience on these topics since in the end we are experiments in a sense anyways haha.

 

[curveball2025]

Your wife brew your gear? Ahahhahah fucking awesome. I wish mine was into this stuff

How much do you take weekly?
Have you ever checked your c-reactive protein during use of dhb?

Yes, she is the expert.

I take 490mg each week.

Between all AAS injectables, I take about 1,750mg per week.

My "cruise" is still about 1,000mg per week.

 

[bighunanballs]

Cool, I'm not a brewing wizard, and this is the first I've heard of this... you've injected it personally and it's not painful to the point of training interruption?

@Type-IIx not sure if you touched on this subject in this thread, but, do you believe any of the elevated inflammation markers or degenerative kidney functions are the result of the actual supersolvents used to brew this shit up? many homebrewers have no issues brewing this stuff up in miglyol or castor oil sans guac or EO.

 

[xrayphoton13]

@Type-IIx not sure if you touched on this subject in this thread, but, do you believe any of the elevated inflammation markers or degenerative kidney functions are the result of the actual supersolvents used to brew this shit up? many homebrewers have no issues brewing this stuff up in miglyol or castor oil sans guac or EO.

I don't think we know the answer to this. It's the only reason I haven't wanted to try it myself is not knowing

 

[Type-IIx]

@Type-IIx not sure if you touched on this subject in this thread, but, do you believe any of the elevated inflammation markers or degenerative kidney functions are the result of the actual supersolvents used to brew this shit up? many homebrewers have no issues brewing this stuff up in miglyol or castor oil sans guac or EO.

It's a combination it seems, both 1-Testo and the harsh solvents like guaiacol necessary to hold it in solution.

I'm inherently skeptical it holds sans guac or ethyl oleate especially since Sampei and the guy I was referring to in this post were the same person:

Sorry I didn’t mean literally “nobody,” just that nobody in the brewing group who was available yesterday had made such a blend. Most admonished against it as too unlikely to hold or be usable long-term.

So to get anywhere you just gotta take a position. Mine then was that I think it’ll probably crash.

I offered for a guy (it was Sampei) to just brew it and let it sit in a well-lit place on a webcam for 10 days, and we can just watch it crystallize.

He (Sampei) came out hot saying for sure he’d brew it and run it, but then his regard for his own health probably did get the better of him…

Most guys seem to just avoid the compound, especially if they brew, it seems. It’s more a kind of exotic finished product.

For me, 1-testo stands out as really the one great thing associated with Dr. Bill Llewellyn. The Anabolics books suck something fierce, but he was the first to be credited with formulating a working lipophilic core to deliver oral 1-Test back during the Designer Steroid Era of the mid-2000, using the principles of Anabolicum Vister (quinbolone; oral EQ, an old pharma drug you’d take 200 mg daily).

Basically rather than 17a-alkylation it used a lipophilic core and had good flow and sufficient bioavailability through lymphatic absorption, bypassing the liver truly unlike sublingual 17AA drugs.

Given the animus motive, I doubt the veracity of the claim.

 

[Sampei]

It's a combination it seems, both 1-Testo and the harsh solvents like guaiacol necessary to hold it in solution.

I'm inherently skeptical it holds sans guac or ethyl oleate especially since Sampei and the guy I was referring to in this post were the same person:


Given the animus motive, I doubt the veracity of the claim.

You are a clown on this matter mate but no problem.

Multiple ppl with plenty of experience brewing have explained you that you are wrong, your brewing experience is 0 and you keep saying you don't believe it or that is not possible.

So Jano can test for Guaiacol or EO if requested. I'm.brewing 100mg/ml DHB and send it to Jano to analyse and when it shows no super solvent has been used you pay for both the shipping and the Jano test.

Shouldn't be a big problem for a big shot like you isn't it?

 

[CaseyKisses]

You are a clown on this matter mate but no problem.

Multiple ppl with plenty of experience brewing have explained you that you are wrong, your brewing experience is 0 and you keep saying you don't believe it or that is not possible.

So Jano can test for Guaiacol or EO if requested. I'm.brewing 100mg/ml DHB and send it to Jano to analyse and when it shows no super solvent has been used you pay for both the shipping and the Jano test.

Shouldn't be a big problem for a big shot like you isn't it?

I have been using DHB for years without stop and they were all from chinese sources. All of them can brew DHB without super solvents, it does crash but it takes literally a minute to reheat the vial and it becames smooth.
But what i wanted to say is that i never have my crp elevated, not even a bit from dhb. No liver, no kidney damage, nothing. Doesnt touch my markers.
So i do think if someone gets ill or feels fucked up from dhb its the super solvent in it or maybe my body is really compatible with dhb and im just lucky in that regard, idk.

 

[CaseyKisses]

I know skinny fat dyel dudes here likes his smartass, but that type2 dude is hated in every other forum by REAL bodybuilders. All of them got fed up with his bullshit.

 

[xrayphoton13]

I have been using DHB for years without stop and they were all from chinese sources. All of them can brew DHB without super solvents, it does crash but it takes literally a minute to reheat the vial and it becames smooth.
But what i wanted to say is that i never have my crp elevated, not even a bit from dhb. No liver, no kidney damage, nothing. Doesnt touch my markers.
So i do think if someone gets ill or feels fucked up from dhb its the super solvent in it or maybe my body is really compatible with dhb and im just lucky in that regard, idk.

Do you have pre and post DHB labs that you'll share with us? I can't remember ever seeing normal labs after DHB but I'm also sure most people have no clue if there is guaiacol or EO in their DHB