MESO-Rx Exclusive 1-Testosterone (DHB): Effects, Risks, and Hepatotoxicity

[adrenalytic]

He is just sharing his experience I think,

No. He is making a patently false blanket statement. It's important to back up bold claims with scientific data. Yes, this is a harm reduction forum but fear mongering is not how we do it.

 

[salladen]

It is funny how adrenalytic knows everything about DHB and other peoples experience about DHB is a lie.

 

[adrenalytic]

It is funny how adrenalytic knows everything about DHB and other peoples experience about DHB is a lie.

What's even funnier is your obsession with me. I live rent free in your head.

 

[Thecarrier]

No. He is making a patently false blanket statement. It's important to back up bold claims with scientific data. Yes, this is a harm reduction forum but fear mongering is not how we do it.

ok bro let’s move on! By the way how is your experience with it ? Did you try different during different cycle ? Dosage ?

 

[adrenalytic]

ok bro let’s move on! By the way how is your experience with it ? Did you try different during different cycle ? Dosage ?

My last cycle was great. 400 DHB 200 test. Only things I would do different next time is go higher test (E2 was a little low at 22 pg/dL) and I wouldn't bother frontloading. It caused more pain than was necessary and no benefit that I could see.

I gained about 5-7 lbs. of contractile tissue over about 12 weeks. Only reason I stopped the cycle is due to fatigue. My CNS just got fried from being in that constant fight or flight mode. Can't wait till my next run.

 

[Thecarrier]

My last cycle was great. 400 DHB 200 test. Only things I would do different next time is go higher test (E2 was a little low at 22 pg/dL) and I wouldn't bother frontloading. It caused more pain than was necessary and no benefit that I could see.

I gained about 5-7 lbs. of contractile tissue over about 12 weeks. Only reason I stopped the cycle is due to fatigue. My CNS just got fried from being in that constant fight or flight mode. Can't wait till my next run.

Really interesting I though Dhb was the only “boldenone” who might not affect e2 but it seems that it affect it at some point, I guess way less than Eq but still.

 

[adrenalytic]

Really interesting I though Dhb was the only “boldenone” who might not affect e2 but it seems that it affect it at some point, I guess way less than Eq but still.

I think because it is such a strong androgen that it downregulates estrogenic signaling. Meaning E2 can look normal on paper but you still get low E2 symptoms. I was getting joint and muscle discomfort on heavy lifts towards the end of my cycle.

Idk haven't done a ton of reading on the mechanism yet and there aren't many (any?) studies around. But it seems any DHT derivative can have a small impact on lowering E2 from what I've observed.

 

[Thecarrier]

I think because it is such a strong androgen that it downregulates estrogenic signaling. Meaning E2 can look normal on paper but you still get low E2 symptoms. I was getting joint and muscle discomfort on heavy lifts towards the end of my cycle.

Idk haven't done a ton of reading on the mechanism yet and there aren't many (any?) studies around. But it seems any DHT derivative can have a small impact on lowering E2 from what I've observed.

That’s true I get your point I had the same discomfort on 150 test 300 mast. Thank you man really interesting

 

[demon]

I think because it is such a strong androgen that it downregulates estrogenic signaling. Meaning E2 can look normal on paper but you still get low E2 symptoms. I was getting joint and muscle discomfort on heavy lifts towards the end of my cycle.

Idk haven't done a ton of reading on the mechanism yet and there aren't many (any?) studies around. But it seems any DHT derivative can have a small impact on lowering E2 from what I've observed.

My experience was exactly the same as yours. DHB lower mine a bit as well and floored by shgb...and I loved every minute of it. Can't wait to run it again lol.

 

[thunkaboutit]

Holy cow i didnt know it was hepatoxic. Glad I spent some time reading.
The more you know *yellow tren appears*

 

[level3]

Holy cow i didnt know it was hepatoxic. Glad I spent some time reading.
The more you know *yellow tren appears*

Yeah the liver growth thing is a bummer. I can't see how this one could ever be worth it for me. I'll stick with my good ole' heart growing anabolic steroids.

 

[adrenalytic]

Holy cow i didnt know it was hepatoxic. Glad I spent some time reading.
The more you know *yellow tren appears*

The same study that said it enlarged the liver also said no elevated enzymes were detected. Can't have it both ways.

Either way,TUDCA and NAC are your friends. You shouldn't be using any steroid without them. My enzymes never got elevated.

Yeah the liver growth thing is a bummer.

Totally reversible. Keep your cycles reasonable and infrequent. All non-17α-alkylated androgens (testosterone, nandrolone, DHB, primobolan) contribute to liver growth to some degree.

 

[thunkaboutit]

The same study that said it enlarged the liver also said no elevated enzymes were detected. Can't have it both ways.

Either way,TUDCA and NAC are your friends. You shouldn't be using any steroid without them. My enzymes never got elevated.



Totally reversible. Keep your cycles reasonable and infrequent.

Good to know, thank you for the reply. Interesting stuff, complicated endocrinology stuff. Interesting though!