10mg/ml Test Cyp

[Sampei]

Well yes it would all depend on the dosage they are using. Something like that would be better then 10mg/ml

10mg/ml is a shit load of volume for a woman to inject, especially if we are talking about HRT and not competitors, women don't like to stab themselves with needles and inject 1ml of oil a week.

Maybe there are a few but in general if I were to propose to my wife to do 1-2 IM injections of 1ml or 0.5ml a week she would say fuck no.

If I was telling her to inject with a slin pin 0.1ml twice a week the answer would be probably a lot closer to yeah could be worth the hassle.

 

[Liter O' Test]

15-70 nanograms per deciliter (ng/dL) or 0.5-2.4 nanomoles per liter (nmol/L)

Normal female testosterone ranges

Can we assume that keeping within that range is not virilizing? Male levels are 300-1000 and 10-35 on the same scales.

Although the thread has veered off topic some, the original post was about low concentration testosterone formulations so that females could dose more accurately at very low doses.

Only one post in the thread talks about a dose, and that is 3-5 mg a week. I do not know what that means in terms of bloodwork and the female reference range.



Since this is purely anecdotal, how much do you know about their "replacement use," as you call it? Share what data you have, even if there is not much.

How much of a sample size do you have of females who keep their bloodwork within the female reference range and still have virilization?

TRT for women became popular recently once mens TRT became popular, these are the same clinics, the same cost, and they just doubled their customer base by including women, they just doubled their money.

I don't see why a woman needs to have "top end of female" testosterone range blood levels for HRT, do women have their testosterone levels checked when they are younger to compare?
or are we going off of biased studies with small sample sizes promoted by the TRT/HRT industry?

Are we assuming that women start at the top end of the range and decline as they age, similar to men?

Do we even have large unbiased samples of testosterone by age for women? Or we don't because its such a new thing?

When I look at things on the internet, I see female testosterone reference ranges at
10-54 ng/dl
6-80 ng/dl
15-70 ng/dl
The difference between 54 and 80 is 32.5% , huge

below, 62.1ng/dl is considered so high, that it is considered hyperandrogenism, which makes sense because according to this citation, it is double the mean testosterone level.

2 of the above reference ranges exceed hyperandrogenism, yet i'm sure if you try to discuss this with a doctor, you will be dismissed and looked at like you are stupid.




When I see these ranges and levels everywhere, it has similarities to the wide range of testosterone ranges for men, however, obviously men do not run the risk of suffering permanent effects while being inside of a "reference range", that the infallible medical industry considers "normal"


Its my belief that money has influenced clinics to work backwards, to find an excuse to sell testosterone to women. Since the reference ranges go up to X they can legally bring you to X , because more is better right?

I think everyone should be aware of the bias/source of whatever they see on the internet, and whatever a doctor is selling them.

if anyone refuses to believe this, look at the pill mills that were in florida. Doctors like money too, and the debt from university has gotta be paid off somehow

There’s also the aspect that women tend toward chin hair, deeper voices, and hair loss as we transition through menopause, so it’s tough to separate out what might have been happening anyway

its the estrogen/androgen ratio, getting bloodwork and supplementing estrogen during this time would prevent the imbalance.
i don't understand why injecting testosterone at this time would be a good idea. It actually seems like the worst time to do this.

 

[malfeasance]

My wife tested 150 total test at 1.3mg prop , daily.

I am surprised at how high it is. How long has she been doing that? Honestly - Any signs of virilization, since she is more than 2X over the female reference range?

 

[y777]

I am surprised at how high it is. How long has she been doing that? Honestly - Any signs of virilization, since she is more than 2X over the female reference range?

She’s been on it almost a year. This dosage maybe 8+ months. She did decide to take down the dose to 1.2 prop per day mainly because of clit sensitivity , non stop. (No clot growth ). Some voice deepening but that was at 1.5mg daily. Voice changed back. , not as Much deepening but a bit raspy. But it’s back to pre TRT.

She really got tired of daily pinning so switched 5mg cyp twice a week. I think six weeks into it (maybe 8). Mood drop off on third day , which is something that I’ve experienced as well.

She’s ok to consider 3x per week or EOD.

libido , and overall touchy -feely isn’t as prominent on 10mg cyp vs 1.2 daily prop

 

[Dirthand]

Because they are doing anywhere from 0.5mg per day to 1.5mg per day. I want them to be able to accurately dose it without question. TRT for women needs to be really precise, I think its crazy that empower makes the shit at 50mg/ml

Well my w cents ..at whatever concentration you make it... if you are taking on the responsibility to make it for Ladies you you should take on the responsibility to have it tested. That will be the only way for them to dose "precise" even if you are great at brewing there will be variables.. do the right thing.. if you make it... have it tested!
Peace

 

[Shivathedestroyer]

A lot of women here might be helped by you sharing the name of that clinic, perhaps here and over in the women forum, where more of them and their husbands will see it.

Not a bad idea. It’s called Ryze HRT, the owner is very knowledgeable on all things female HRT. He used to be one of my coaches, he doesn’t coach much anymore as he’s invested his time into his clinic. I have multiple of my female clients working with them. Feel free to tag me in the female section you would like this information shared and I can bring it over there too.

 

[Grey Spartan]

libido , and overall touchy -feely isn’t as prominent on 10mg cyp vs 1.2 daily prop

Probably because her levels have dropped. Have they been checked since switching to cypionate?

 

[malfeasance]

Not a bad idea. It’s called Ryze HRT, the owner is very knowledgeable on all things female HRT. He used to be one of my coaches, he doesn’t coach much anymore as he’s invested his time into his clinic. I have multiple of my female clients working with them. Feel free to tag me in the female section you would like this information shared and I can bring it over there too.

You are the second person to recommend them to me.

Thank you

 

[scmtnboy]

I think some source should offer this (low dose test Cyp) as I see lots of guys asking questions for their lady’s. Mg wife just realized she went through menopause very young (42) and believe me she is not ready to live with her natural hormone levels. I tried after searching and not understanding brewing to buy some sterile Mct and diluted 1cc of my test Cyp with 9cc of MCT I got from medlabsupply. I added what I thought was the correct amount of BA. It was giving her a little red spot so not sure if I did anything wrong. When she used .02 of mine (5mg) she did not get any reaction. We just got her first bloods back and 5mg 2x week but her levels at 187 so we need to cut it way back. Also ordered estrogen and progesterone as both of those are non existent for her.

 

[Nunya]

I think some source should offer this (low dose test Cyp) as I see lots of guys asking questions for their lady’s. Mg wife just realized she went through menopause very young (42) and believe me she is not ready to live with her natural hormone levels. I tried after searching and not understanding brewing to buy some sterile Mct and diluted 1cc of my test Cyp with 9cc of MCT I got from medlabsupply. I added what I thought was the correct amount of BA. It was giving her a little red spot so not sure if I did anything wrong. When she used .02 of mine (5mg) she did not get any reaction. We just got her first bloods back and 5mg 2x week but her levels at 187 so we need to cut it way back. Also ordered estrogen and progesterone as both of those are non existent for her.

Yep and honestly many of us would pay the same price so it’d be a win for the vendor as well

 

[GypsyCat]

I think some source should offer this (low dose test Cyp) as I see lots of guys asking questions for their lady’s. Mg wife just realized she went through menopause very young (42) and believe me she is not ready to live with her natural hormone levels. I tried after searching and not understanding brewing to buy some sterile Mct and diluted 1cc of my test Cyp with 9cc of MCT I got from medlabsupply. I added what I thought was the correct amount of BA. It was giving her a little red spot so not sure if I did anything wrong. When she used .02 of mine (5mg) she did not get any reaction. We just got her first bloods back and 5mg 2x week but her levels at 187 so we need to cut it way back. Also ordered estrogen and progesterone as both of those are non existent for her.

I do know that Muscle Candy and Axle Labs offer 50mg/ml vials. But I have not order or have any info on these companies good or bad. Just wanted to let you know that there are a couple of domestic options available. There might be others but I haven't found them yet.

 

[rejest]

Yep and honestly many of us would pay the same price so it’d be a win for the vendor as well

@nundid you find a source for the Estradiol? I'm in the same boat. Can you DM?

 

[Nunya]

@nundid you find a source for the Estradiol? I'm in the same boat. Can you DM?

Sendi

@nundid you find a source for the Estradiol? I'm in the same boat. Can you DM?

For some reason I’m unable to. Maybe your account is too new

 

[rejest]

Sendi

For some reason I’m unable to. Maybe your account is too new

Argh. I bet that's why. Lemme see what I can do.