MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
10ml or 20ml or 30ml vials
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guys for who's shooting different compounds all in one syringe and wants an alternative there are filtered needles too, they work well, the only drawback if you want is that they don't vent the vials so the air that you will have to vent is not filtered. They do have a 5um filter (same as the spike) and it makes drawing different compounds inside same syringe a lot easier and it's faster and no cracking of spike etc and cheaper in general.
So if for you it's not a big deal the injecting non sterile air and wants a cheaper alternative and easier:
www.ciamedical.com
www.ciamedical.com
www.ciamedical.com
small EDIT: Ok maybe not cheaper in the long term, depends how much your spike last. Mine crack very easily after 3-4 use and it does clog after more or less 8 use. Don't tell me what happens but usually after a while oil stop coming down, doesn't matter how long I keep it upside down, how much time i wait before drawing, it's like something melt or get clogged and that's it. New spike to be used.
I have access to cheap spike 0.80c each but for ppl using spike for the cost of 3-4$ than it's probably easier to use filtered needle.
I believe there is space for both use, for my BAC water vials I use Spike 100%. To draw from 3 different multidose vials I find a filtrered needle is a lot easier as it's hard to draw different compounds into same syring from a spike.
So if for you it's not a big deal the injecting non sterile air and wants a cheaper alternative and easier:
B Braun 415040 - 5 micron filter in female Luer lock connector with 19 Ga. x 1 in. needle for withdrawal or injection of medication from rubber-stoppered vials, 100/cs (Rx) - CIA Medical
B Braun 415040, 5 micron filter in female Luer lock connector with 19 Ga. x 1 in. needle for withdrawal or injection of medication from rubber-stoppered vials, 100/cs (Rx)
www.ciamedical.com
B Braun 415035 - Filter Needle 5 Micron 20G x 1" Safe and Efficient Filtration for Medication Preparation, 100/CS - CIA Medical
B Braun 415035, Filter Needle 5 Micron 20G x 1" Safe and Efficient Filtration for Medication Preparation, 100/CS
www.ciamedical.com
BD 305201 - Nokor Filter Needle with 5-micron Thin Wall, 18G x 1-1/2" - CIA Medical
BD 305201, Nokor Filter Needle with 5-micron Thin Wall, 18G x 1-1/2"
www.ciamedical.com
Filter Nokor® Medication Transfer Needle 18 Gauge 1-1/2
BD, Filter Nokor® Medication Transfer Needle 18 Gauge 1-1/2, 100 EA/BX, Betty Mills Price: $58.96 Per Box, MON 155734BX, MON155734BX, Needles & Syringes, Transfer Needles,
www.bettymills.com
small EDIT: Ok maybe not cheaper in the long term, depends how much your spike last. Mine crack very easily after 3-4 use and it does clog after more or less 8 use. Don't tell me what happens but usually after a while oil stop coming down, doesn't matter how long I keep it upside down, how much time i wait before drawing, it's like something melt or get clogged and that's it. New spike to be used.
I have access to cheap spike 0.80c each but for ppl using spike for the cost of 3-4$ than it's probably easier to use filtered needle.
I believe there is space for both use, for my BAC water vials I use Spike 100%. To draw from 3 different multidose vials I find a filtrered needle is a lot easier as it's hard to draw different compounds into same syring from a spike.
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bigMoJo
Member
Yes, I draw upside down. If you're referring to the small amount of air when drawing, I think a few members have posted about that too. IDK if it's the filter or the seal, but I'm experimenting with that. Any suggestions are of course welcome.
the issue to fix that is you need to draw a bit, like 1/3 of the oil in it and then press quick and shoot back the oil and the air drawn back into the vial so that the channel gets free of air, then you can draw again without pulling any air, repeat a few time if needed.
Problem is... if you are drawing from multiple vials, after the first draw you can't do this anymore as that would contaminate vial two with the oil of vial one... that's why I believe filtered needle are a better choice for an AAS user doing multiple substance into same syringe.
Not at this level yet but is constituting separate compounds and storing them in one vial not an accepted practice?
Are we talking peptides now?
Was thinking of AAS. Forgot the original context was peptides.
egruberman
Well-known Member
I’m wondering if someone, @Ghoul perhaps wants to setup a public sheet with the consumables we like to use, mini spikes, for example, which include cost and vendor.
No we are talking AAS so you saying reconstitute and store in the same vial doesn't make much sense to me. That's why I was asking.
What do you mean? Like taking 10ml of test C 10ml of EQ and 10ml of deca and put all of them together in a 30ml vial?
Yes exactly, ideally right before administration or short periods for convenience's sake.
No buddy I never mixed oils together and no one does. In the syringe? Sure why not, in a multidose vial? Naaaaaa
Any reason for that? vendors sell them pre-mixed. we do it with peptides too (with certain exceptions)
It's not correct, vendor make blend brewing things together, that's a lot different than brewing separately and than mixing it together
Maybe it's common thing to do it, I don't really know, I never ever done it. let's ask the more expert here
@narta @Spaceman Spiff
Is it ok to mix together different compounds in the same vials?
Like 10ml of test C 10ml of tren E and 10ml of masteron E all mixed in the same multidose vial?
3lb Burrito
New Member
I either don't have DM privileges yet or I'm missing too many IQ points to figure out the interface, but I am having trouble sourcing these. For some reason my search by part number is turning up everything from razor blades to air filters.
Reflecting on this more, I’m struggling to see the functional difference between mixing in a vial immediately before (to avoid cross contamination) and mixing in a syringe. Although I would agree the syringe filters seem like the best approach to avoid the issue entirely. I think the thing to avoid would be storing discrete substances that way long term.It's not correct, vendor make blend brewing things together, that's a lot different than brewing separately and than mixing it together
Maybe it's common thing to do it, I don't really know, I never ever done it. let's ask the more expert here
@narta @Spaceman Spiff
Is it ok to mix together different compounds in the same vials?
Like 10ml of test C 10ml of tren E and 10ml of masteron E all mixed in the same multidose vial?
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Kiraa710
New Member
Altruan.de is where he suggests usually, mine land tomorrow
Yo noob here. Been lurking and seems i hav to filter, peptides and the AAS.. walk me through it please heres my plan:
AAS
1. I suck the AAS from the contaminated vial through a filtered spike into a 12ml syringe to remove big particles and prevent syringe filter from clogging
2. I install 0.2um 13mm syringe filter into the syringe and transfer the AAS through it into clean 50 ml vial
3. I install a filtered spike into clean 50 ml vial. AAS clean and rdy to use through spike
Peptides and HGH
1. I reconsitute contaminated peptide/hgh with bac water and withdraw it into a syringe
2. I install 0.2um 13mm syringe filter into the syringe and transfer the peptide/hgh through it into clean vials (3ml and 10ml)
3. I install a filtered spike into clean 10ml and a filtered microspike to 3ml vials. Peptides/hgh clean and rdy to use
looks good?
AAS
1. I suck the AAS from the contaminated vial through a filtered spike into a 12ml syringe to remove big particles and prevent syringe filter from clogging
2. I install 0.2um 13mm syringe filter into the syringe and transfer the AAS through it into clean 50 ml vial
3. I install a filtered spike into clean 50 ml vial. AAS clean and rdy to use through spike
Peptides and HGH
1. I reconsitute contaminated peptide/hgh with bac water and withdraw it into a syringe
2. I install 0.2um 13mm syringe filter into the syringe and transfer the peptide/hgh through it into clean vials (3ml and 10ml)
3. I install a filtered spike into clean 10ml and a filtered microspike to 3ml vials. Peptides/hgh clean and rdy to use
looks good?
bigMoJo
Member
I thought someone would have answered this by now.
Anyway, you don't want to mix two or more oil compounds together in one large vial. Because: unlike UGL compounds that are "mixed" evenly during "brewing," finished oils have differences in make-up (i.e. recipe) and densities where getting the right mg per ml is unlikely to be accurate.
Basically, how do you know you're getting the accurate dosage of each of the two or more compounds after you mixed them together in a 20ml vial? What if the part of the oil you draw from has 50mg test and 200mg primo instead of 100mg of each?
Drawing 1ml of 100mg test and 1ml 100mg primo gives you an accurate dosage of each when "mixed" in one syring. In a large 20ml vial, there is too much room for disparities when drawing from that large amount into a 1 or 3ml syring. You just can't be sure oils have mixed evenly enough.
No, If you use 13mm filter syringe for AAS oil you will filter max 10ml each filter if you are lucky. 33mm for AAS and 13mm for peptides. The rest is fine
