Trenbolone

Michael Scally MD

Doctor of Medicine
10+ Year Member
Trenbolone – A summary from the article, “Yarrow JF, McCoy SC, Borst SE. Tissue selectivity and potential clinical applications of trenbolone (17[beta]-hydroxyestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one): A potent anabolic steroid with reduced androgenic and estrogenic activity. Steroids;In Press, Accepted Manuscript.”

Androgens exert both genomic and rapid non-genomic actions. The genomic actions primarily occur following classic androgen receptor (AR) mediated signaling pathways. The non-genomic actions are mediated by androgen interaction with cell surface G-protein coupled receptors. Testosterone dose-dependently augments skeletal muscle mass and bone mineral density (BMD), reduces adiposity, and elevates red blood cell production (erythropoiesis) in men either directly, via AR activation, or indirectly, via AR and estradiol receptor (ER) activation, following its conversion to dihydrotestosterone (DHT) and estradiol (E2), respectively.

Many of the side-effects associated with supraphysiological testosterone administration appear to be primarily mediated by the more potent testosterone metabolites, DHT and E2. The metabolism and the biological effects of testosterone are influenced by the tissue-specific localization and expression of the 5alpha reductase isoenzymes and the aromatase enzyme. These considerations have led to the development of selective androgen receptor modulators (SARM), steroidal and non-steroidal, aimed at inducing anabolic effects in skeletal muscle and bone without inducing adverse effects.

17? –TBOH (trenbolone) has a low oral bioavailability (not methylated at the 17? position), it is not a substrate for 5? reductase and may not be a substrate for aromatase. The toxicity of 17? –TBOH has not been scientifically studied in humans, but anecdotally has been reported to have a low potential for liver toxicity because this drug is generally administered intramuscularly.

The metabolism of 17? –TBOH differs from that of testosterone because 17? –TBOH is neither 5? reducible nor aromatizable. The primary metabolites of 17? –TBOH are the less potent androgens 17? –TBOH and Trendione (TBO) in humans. Due to the reduced potency of its metabolites, 17? –TBOH appears to induce fewer systemic and tissue-specific androgenic and estrogenic side-effects than testosterone.

Some variation in the in vivo metabolism of 17? –TBOH exists among mammalian species, but the primary metabolites are 17?-hydroxy- and 17- oxo- metabolites of trenbolone in rodents or 17?-hydroxy- metabolites of trenbolone in ruminants (various hoofed, even-toed, usually horned mammals of the suborder Ruminantia, such as cattle, sheep, goats, deer, and giraffes, characteristically having a stomach divided into four compartments and chewing a cud consisting of regurgitated, partially digested food).

In humans, ingested 6,7-3H labeled 17? –TBOH is primarily excreted intact, as 17? –TBOH, as the 17? epimer (epitrenbolone; 17? –TBOH ) or as trendione (TBO). Several yet to be identified polar metabolites of 17? –TBOH have also been detected in human urine. 17? –TBOH has a greater affinity for the AR than any of its primary metabolites, suggesting that biotransformation of 17? –TBOH reduces the biological activity of this steroid. [Schanzer W. Metabolism of anabolic androgenic steroids. Clin Chem 1996;42(7):1001-20. Link: http://www.clinchem.org/cgi/reprint/42/7/1001.pdf ]

17? –TBOH-acetate (17?-acetoxyestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one) is a highly potent anabolic androgenic steroid which is primarily used legally as a growth promoting agent in domestic livestock production either alone, as Finaplix or in combination with E2, as Revalor, or E2-benzoate, as Synovex. Following administration, 17? –TBOH-acetate is rapidly converted to the biologically active steroid 17? –TBOH.

5? Reductase: Despite its structural similarities to testosterone, 17? –TBOH does not undergo 5? reduction due to the presence of a 3-oxotriene structure, which prevents A ring reduction. 17? –TBOH undergoes biotransformation to less biologically active androgens, similar to other anabolic androgenic steroids, such as 19-nortestosterone.

17? –TBOH administration has been shown to reduce prostate mass in growing male rodents when compared with control animals. 17? –TBOH exerts less pronounced effects than testosterone in androgen-sensitive tissues which express the 5? reductase enzyme including the prostate and accessory sex-organs, despite the fact that 17? –TBOH binds to the human AR, along with ARs of various model species, with approximately three times the affinity of testosterone.

17? –TBOH remains highly anabolic, evidenced by equal or greater growth in the levator ani skeletal muscle (an androgen responsive tissue which lacks the 5? reductase enzymes), compared to testosterone. Reports indicate that 17? –TBOH produces a ratio of anabolic/androgenic effects that may be favorable compared to the effects of testosterone.

Aromatase: 17? –TBOH and other C19 norandrogens are reported to not be substrates for the aromatase enzyme and to be relatively non-estrogenic; although some debate exists regarding 19-nortestosterone to undergo aromatization and induce estrogenic effects. In vitro bioassays and cell culture experiments demonstrate that 17? – TBOH and its metabolites have a very low binding affinity for ERs and have low estrogenic activity with approximately 20% of the efficacy of E2. Reports also suggest that 17? – TBOH reduces serum E2 concentrations in vivo and exerts a variety of anti-estrogenic effects, perhaps through hypothalamic feedback inhibition of the production of testosterone (a substrate necessary for endogenous E2 biosynthesis).

Body Growth/Skeletal Muscle: Trenbolone, 17? –TBOH, a potent synthetic testosterone analogue, promotes gains in skeletal muscle mass and BMD and reduces adiposity in various model species. The use of 17? – TBOH in athletics suggests that this steroid is capable of producing potent anabolic effects in muscle.

The administration of 17? –TBOH or its acetate ester enhance total body growth and skeletal muscle mass in various rodent and livestock models when administered alone or when administered in combination with E2. Several studies have reported that administration of 17? –TBOH in combination with E2 results in greater body growth and skeletal muscle mass than either steroid alone; indicating that E2 enhances the anabolic effects of 17? –TBOH.

The presence of E2 is not required for 17? –TBOH to augment skeletal muscle mass as demonstrated in rodent models which experience significant growth of the levator ani muscle and other skeletal muscles following 17? –TBOH administration, despite lacking the primary source of endogenous E2.

5? reduction of testosterone is not required for skeletal muscle maintenance in hypogonadal animals or humans. E2 administration has been shown to protect against loss of muscle strength in ovariectomized female rodents suggesting that aromatization might contribute to the effects of testosterone on skeletal muscle in males.

The anabolic responses appear to be related to the direct activation of tissue-specific AR mediated signaling pathways, alterations in endogenous growth factors, and reductions in glucocorticoid activity.

Human myonuclei are approximately 50% AR positive and ruminants are highly sensitive to androgen induced myotropic stimuli due to high concentrations of ARs in bovine skeletal muscle and skeletal muscle satellite cells. The androgen sensitive levator ani muscle in rodents contains approximately 74% AR positive myonuclei and experiences robust atrophic responses to castration and hypertrophic responses to androgen administration.

It is suspected that 17? –TBOH exerts direct anabolic effects on skeletal muscle primarily via AR activation and associated nuclear translocation and transcription or via modulation of the Wnt/?-catenin pathway, similar to other androgens. In vitro evidence indicates that 17? –TBOH induces translocation of human ARs to the nucleus in a dose-dependent manner and induces gene transcription to at least the same extent as DHT. 17? –TBOH treatment of cultured bovine satellite cells upregulates AR mRNA expression.

17? –TBOH may induce anabolic effects via mechanisms associated with alterations in endogenous growth factor concentrations or the responsiveness of skeletal muscle to such growth factors. 17? –TBOH alone or in combination with 17? –E2 upregulates insulin-like growth factor (IGF-1) mRNA in a variety of tissues. The upregulation of IGF-1 mRNA translates into increased serum IGF-1 in 17? –TBOH treated animals. It seems likely that increased growth factor expression resulting from 17? –TBOH administration is one mechanism underlying the anabolic responses to this steroid in skeletal muscle, especially considering that binding of IGF-1 to the type 1 IGF receptor is required for proliferation of satellite cells.

17? –TBOH may also preserve or increase lean mass by reducing via anti-catabolic effects associated with reductions in endogenous glucocorticoid activity or with the suppression of amino acid degradation within the liver. 17? –TBOH administration has been shown to reduce circulating corticosterone concentrations in rodents and resting cortisol in cattle. Evidence indicates that 17? –TBOH works in the adrenals to suppress adrenocorticotropic hormone (ACTH)-stimulated cortisol synthesis and to suppress cortisol release.

17? –TBOH has been shown to reduce the ability of cortisol to bind to skeletal muscle glucocorticoid receptors (GR) and to down regulate skeletal muscle GR expression. The multiple anti-glucocorticoid actions induced by 17? –TBOH explain, in part, the 17? –TBOH-mediated increase in total body nitrogen retention and the reductions in total and myofibrillar protein degradation in several species. As a result of its anti-glucocorticoid actions, 17? –TBOH produces a more robust inhibition of protein degradation than does testosterone, which only slightly reduces protein degradation while increasing protein synthesis.

Fat Mass: 17? –TBOH administration alone or in combination with E2 also reduces subcutaneous fat, intramuscular fat, and muscle marbling (a gross measurement of intramuscular fat content), along with other stores of body fat in various livestock species. 17? – TBOH-enanthate administration reduces retroperitoneal fat mass, perirenal fat mass, and perhaps other fat depots, in male rodents in a dose-dependent manner. The lipolytic effects of 17? –TBOH-enanthate appear even more potent than that of supraphysiological testosterone-enanthate.

HPTA: Disruptions of the HPG axis, including reductions in serum luteinizing hormone (LH), follicle stimulating hormone (FSH), testosterone, DHT, and E2 have been observed in a variety of species following 17? –TBOH exposure. Indirect evidence indicates disruptions of the HPG axis are present in livestock which experience reduced testicular circumference and weight and delayed puberty following administration of 17? –TBOH.

Erythropoiesis: Testosterone administration results in dose-dependent increases in both hematocrit and hemoglobin. The aromatization of testosterone does not appear to be required for erythropoiesis as administration of DHT (a non-aromatizable endogenous androgen) augments erythropoiesis in men, while exogenous testosterone, but not E2 administration, increases hematocrit in aromatase deficient men. The 5? reduction of testosterone may not be required for erythropoiesis as high-dose testosterone administration in combination with finasteride increases hematocrit and hemoglobin concentrations in hypogonadal men to the same extent as testosterone alone, despite a nearly 65% lower serum DHT concentrations in the finasteride group. The conclusion from these studies is androgens directly elevate erythropoiesis via AR-mediated mechanisms. 17? –TBOH increases hemoglobin concentrations in orchiectomized male rodents in a dose-dependent manner and to a greater extent than supraphysiological testosterone, even though circulating DHT is suppressed by over 50% following 17? –TBOH administration.
 
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Fat Mass: 17? –TBOH administration alone or in combination with E2 also reduces subcutaneous fat, intramuscular fat, and muscle marbling (a gross measurement of intramuscular fat content), along with other stores of body fat in various livestock species. 17? – TBOH-enanthate administration reduces retroperitoneal fat mass, perirenal fat mass, and perhaps other fat depots, in male rodents in a dose-dependent manner. The lipolytic effects of 17? –TBOH-enanthate appear even more potent than that of supraphysiological testosterone-enanthate.
by addng estrogen (E2) to an injection of tren.. wouldn't you be seeting yourself up for progesterone related gyno
 
Why not simplify the objection, and remove a serious problem with it, by saying instead, Wouldn't adding estradiol benzoate set one up for estrogen related gyno?

To which the answer is, most definitely.

For this reason we use Finaplix H, not Finaplix S.
 
Why not simplify the objection, and remove a serious problem with it, by saying instead, Wouldn't adding estradiol benzoate set one up for estrogen related gyno?

To which the answer is, most definitely.

For this reason we use Finaplix H, not Finaplix S.

Guess I should have mentioned both types of gyno. It's just that we have been discussing progesterone related gyno at another site in that excess amounts of estrogen in your system would make a person more likely to get P-gyno. Providing the estrogen went unchallenged. So seeing this article mention specifically adding it along with Tren, kind of flies in the face of reasoning.
Just trying to learn..

and yes.. Finaplix -h or Componet-th are the one ones that should be converted when attempting a finaplix experiment

BTW.. I'm a huge fan of your writings!!!! Thank you !!
 
I have a question about tren as well doc. I read somewhere that it may interfere with the thyroid hormones and users should use a small dose of T3 throughout their entire tren cycle. I think Dan Duchaine was the one who said it.

Is there any truth to this?

Thanks in advance!
 
by addng estrogen (E2) to an injection of tren.. wouldn't you be seeting yourself up for progesterone related gyno

The study is referring to livestock, so the E2 part, really has nothing to do with us, as no BB would ever inject estrogen.
 
I've only rarely added T3 to a trenbolone cycle, never felt the need for it in personal use other than where I would have wanted to use T3 anyway, never generally recommended it when writing programs except where T3 would have been recommended anyway, and trenbolone has a good reputation for fat loss without adding T3.

So I don't think trenbolone adds any particular need for T3, but T3 provides the same value it ordinarily would, and so in some situations is quite appropriate.

As to whether it's a worthwhile finetune to add a little T3 (such as 25 mcg/day) to any steroid cycle even if not particularly intended for fat loss, it may well be. It won't hurt and may help. Of course, it's a spectrum as to what dose may seem most appropriate, rather than there being any sharp cutoff or exact particular one-size-fits-all value. That is only an example of a dose that is a significant tweak, but not a hammer.

Basskiller, glad the writings were of help to you! :)
 
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The study is referring to livestock, so the E2 part, really has nothing to do with us, as no BB would ever inject estrogen.

and it also speaks about humans as well

I'm just attempting to spark up a conversation about gyno as it relates to tren/estrogen
 
and it also speaks about humans as well

I'm just attempting to spark up a conversation about gyno as it relates to tren/estrogen

Oh...right...

Humans ARE briefly mentioned, although, never with regard to E2 administration.

I learned about conversions on ur site....thanks.
 
I appologise.. And please don't take this the wrong way..
But I assumed we were on a bodybuilding site .. Therefore I also assumed that this was posted here not for how we interact with our cows but as it pertains to us..

Which leads me back to where I was really attempting to steer a conversation towards as I just don't know enough about it.
all aspects on "How estrogen leads to progestrone related gyno."

I honestly thought that this artcle was a decent segway into that topic.. I'm guessing that I was wrong
 
I appologise.. And please don't take this the wrong way..
But I assumed we were on a bodybuilding site .. Therefore I also assumed that this was posted here not for how we interact with our cows but as it pertains to us..

Which leads me back to where I was really attempting to steer a conversation towards as I just don't know enough about it.
"How estrogen related to progestrone related gyno."

I honestly thought that this artcle was a decent segway into that topic.. I'm guessing that I was wrong

I understand what you're saying.

The only reason I continued to bring up the fact that the article never spoke of human E2 administration was to explain MY MISTAKE, not to allude to the fact that I thought YOU made a mistake.

sry for the confusion.

I'd engage you regarding the effects of E2 on progestrone related gyno, but I don't know enough of human biology for it to be a 2 sided conversation.:rolleyes:
 
Aaaagggghhhh...Sorry, disregard previous post. I'm a jackass :o Just found the Bill Roberts profile. Also found basskilleronline in my googling. Have to give that a look too.
 
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17?-hydroxyestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one (trenbolone) is a potent synthetic testosterone analogue which does not undergo 5? reduction to more potent metabolites (46). As such, trenbolone may induce less growth in prostate and other androgenic tissues which highly express 5? reductase. This is in contrast to testosterone, which has approximately three fold greater potency in androgenic tissues, which highly express 5? reductase (63), due to its conversion to dihydrotestosterone (DHT).

The primary purpose of this study was to determine the effects of trenbolone-enanthate (TREN; a slowly released trenbolone ester) on a variety of androgen sensitive tissues, including skeletal muscle, bone, visceral adiposity, hemoglobin, and the prostate of rodents. Because trenbolone is selectively metabolized to weaker androgens in vivo, they hypothesized that TREN will produce dose-dependent anabolic effects in skeletal muscle, bone, and fat that are at least equal to those of supraphysiological testosterone, while producing a smaller increase in hemoglobin and less growth of the prostate. Their findings indicate that TREN has advantages over supraphysiologic testosterone and supports the need for future pre-clinical studies examining the viability of TREN as an option for androgen replacement therapy.



Yarrow JF, Conover CF, McCoy SC, et al. 17?-hydroxyestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one (Trenbolone) Exhibits Tissue Selective Anabolic Activity: Effects on Muscle, Bone, Adiposity, Hemoglobin, and Prostate. American Journal of Physiology - Endocrinology And Metabolism. 17?-hydroxyestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one (Trenbolone) Exhibits Tissue Selective Anabolic Activity: Effects on Muscle, Bone, Adiposity, Hemoglobin, and Prostate — AJP - Endo

Selective androgen receptor modulators (SARMs) now under development can protect against muscle and bone loss, without causing prostate growth or polycythemia. 17?-hydroxyestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one (trenbolone), a potent testosterone analogue, may have SARM-like actions because, unlike testosterone, trenbolone does not undergo tissue-specific 5? reduction to form more potent androgens. We tested the hypothesis that trenbolone-enanthate (TREN) might prevent orchiectomy-induced losses in muscle and bone and visceral fat accumulation, without increasing prostate mass or resulting in adverse hemoglobin elevations.

Male F344 rats aged three months underwent orchiectomy or remained intact and were administered graded doses of TREN, supraphysiologic testosterone-enanthate, or vehicle for 29 days. In both intact and orchiectomized animals, all TREN doses and supraphysiologic testosterone-enanthate augmented androgen-sensitive levator ani/bulbocavernosus muscle mass by 35-40% above Shams (p?0.001), and produced a dose-dependent partial protection against orchiectomy-induced total and trabecular bone mineral density losses (p<0.05) and visceral fat accumulation (p<0.05). The lowest doses of TREN successfully maintained prostate mass and hemoglobin concentrations at Sham levels in both intact and orchiectomized animals; whereas supraphysiologic testosterone-enanthate and high-dose TREN elevated prostate mass by 84% and 68%, respectively (p<0.01).

In summary, low dose administration of the non-5? reducible androgen TREN maintains prostate mass and hemoglobin concentrations near the level of Shams, while producing potent myotrophic actions in skeletal muscle and partial protection against orchiectomy-induced bone loss and visceral fat accumulation. Our findings indicate that TREN has advantages over supraphysiologic testosterone and supports the need for future pre-clinical studies examining the viability of TREN as an option for androgen replacement therapy.
 
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At first I was thinking, how interesting that someone actually is taking interest in human use of trenbolone and is taking some steps towards it!

That's the main thing. But as an aside, I kind of enjoy a little bit of irony in the above abstract, because I've tended to think that the "SARM" claims are quite bogus and are just an attempt to cash in on the acceptability and success of SERMs and to try to distinguish these new drugs from anabolic steroids beyond simply having a different structure.

Actual difference in pharmacology, actual "selective androgen receptor modulation" doesn't seem to have anything to do with the name.

So, here these folk kind of confirm that by calling trenbolone "SARM-like."

Uh, how about the SARM's are anabolic steroid-like? Except with a different chemical structure.

And really, it's not as if there is something new about many anabolic steroids not undergoing 5a-reductase metabolism. I don't think that would have been a news flash even in the 1950s.

Unfortunately, after I thought about it, I just couldn't see how there could be any profit potential in human clinical trials, as they probably couldn't replicate BTG's trick with oxandrolone, and finally I came to the guess that the stuff about possible value of human trials is simply to prop up the apparent importance of their work. This kind of thing happens all the time: the suggestions "more research is needed."

Maybe it wasn't their intention, but it's nice seeing support towards there being nothing special about the SARMs, and that trenbolone is found to make a fair comparison!
 
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