GnRH(LHRH) vs Triptorelin Bill Roberts

[KBD]

I have 2 vials of these 2 diff things.

1 bottle says GnRH LHRH 2000mcg in the bottle

the other says

Triptorelin 100mcg in the bottle

Weird thing is, the company i got the 2000mcg from i trust more than the other bottle, but idk if it will have the same effect?

Or what dose i should use with the first one?

Lost.. any1?

 

[KBD]

bump

 

[Bill Roberts]

Does it say that these values are per mL, or are they total values after dilution?

 

[KBD]

Does it say that these values are per mL, or are they total values after dilution?

2000mcg in a bottle..

So 2ml would delute it to 1mg each cc.

 

[Bill Roberts]

Yes.

 

[KBD]

Yes.

Yes what? So is this one shot going to recover me?

 

[Michael Scally MD]

Yes what? So is this one shot going to recover me?

If I was a betting man, NO. When did you plan on injecting? What did you plan on doing to check for HPTA function? Did you plan on doing the injection more than once?

 

[KBD]

If I was a betting man, NO. When did you plan on injecting? What did you plan on doing to check for HPTA function? Did you plan on doing the injection more than once?

Well it does say to be careful due to, chemical castration.

 

[Michael Scally MD]

Well it does say to be careful due to, chemical castration.

You can get away with a single 100 mcg use, but as I said the success rate is not high. There are only two reports in the literature I know of post AAS. Of course, you could avoid the adverse effect of chemical castration by use of actual GnRH. It will NOT work, but even more problematic is the logistics. Actual GnRH utilizes a pulsatile infusion with a SC pump!!!

 

[Get Some]

If I was a betting man, NO. When did you plan on injecting? What did you plan on doing to check for HPTA function? Did you plan on doing the injection more than once?

Keep in mind he failed to mention he's also going to be using HCG, HMG, and toremifene in addition to this GnRH agonist. So, we'll see....

 

[KBD]

You can get away with a single 100 mcg use, but as I said the success rate is not high. There are only two reports in the literature I know of post AAS. Of course, you could avoid the adverse effect of chemical castration by use of actual GnRH. It will NOT work, but even more problematic is the logistics. Actual GnRH utilizes a continuous infusion with a SC pump!!!

So this is pretty much pointless then?

i was going to run Tamox/Torem with it as well. for 4 weeks


100mcg Shot of Triptorelin
Torem 120/90/60/60
Tamox 20/20/20/20

 

[KBD]

So this is pretty much pointless then?

i was going to run Tamox/Torem with it as well. for 4 weeks


100mcg Shot of Triptorelin
Torem 120/90/60/60
Tamox 20/20/20/20

Also can HCG and GnRH be used together?

 

[KBD]

Or should i just do the one shot of Triptorelin 100mcg

and just do Tamox 20mg ED for 4 weeks and see where im at, at the end of the month.

 

[Michael Scally MD]

KBD:

When was the last time you check HPTA function? The reason I ask is it appears you are trying to pull out all the guns to remedy HPTA shutdown.

Tia

 

[KBD]

KBD:

When was the last time you check HPTA function? The reason I ask is it appears you are trying to pull out all the guns to remedy HPTA shutdown.

Tia

Believe me im shutdown like a mother fucker.

 

[Michael Scally MD]

Believe me im shutdown like a mother fucker.

I recommend a hCG challenge test alone before embarking on anything else. hCG 2,000 IU SC QOD-Q3D X 10; Obtain a TT after the 5-6 injection. Do not forget to get baseline tests.

 

[KBD]

I recommend a hCG challenge test alone before embarking on anything else. hCG 2,000 IU SC QOD-Q3D X 10; Obtain a TT after the 5-6 injection. Do not forget to get baseline tests.

I plan on getting bloodwork.

Im on day 6 of 120mg Toremifene, wednesday was the 100mcg Triptorelin shot.

Balls feel slightly bigger.

Since taking the shot of Triptorelin, i was told not to hit HCG due to masdsive LH stimulation?

also will 10iu day of growth help keep LBM?

 

[Bill Roberts]

Well, we don't know that the triptorelin produced a large amount of LH or that LH is presently high.

If you like, you could measure LH and T now to find out. Or just T, unless you are taking other androgens.

If T is now high, then primary hypogonadism (testes not responding) would not be a suspect anymore and you wouldn't have to do the HCG test.

 

[KBD]

Well, we don't know that the triptorelin produced a large amount of LH or that LH is presently high.

If you like, you could measure LH and T now to find out. Or just T, unless you are taking other androgens.

If T is now high, then primary hypogonadism (testes not responding) would not be a suspect anymore and you wouldn't have to do the HCG test.

Im going to just go get my blood work done, Ill get Total Test and LH Values tested. Ill let you guys know.

 

[KBD]

Also, noone seems to have an answer for this. Would taking a SERM after injecting Triptorelin have any effects on Triptorelin?

Im aware SERMs dont suppress you so idk why it would have an effect?