Customer Reviews and Company Representatives

[Millard]

This forum is a resource for members to share their experiences ordering online, share and discuss third-party links, and rate these sources.

The goal of this uncensored forum is to have a fully transparent discussion and analysis of exactly what goes on in the steroid underground including the deceit and dishonesty among its many players.

MESO is not going to act like "big brother". We're not going to "approve" sources. This is a slippery slope that usually leads to corruption at some level either by administrators or by moderators. I'm not going that route.

The purpose of the forum is to help guide members through the dangers of the black market.

Company representatives are NOT explicitly prohibited from responding to customer complaints. However, they MUST identify themselves. And any type of solicitation is frowned upon

Reps who fail to identify themselves as such will be subject to public exposure of their violation of the etiquette rules of this subforum.

An uncensored forum comes with good and bad. I have had numerous requests to delete posts and ban reps. However, I think it is clear that members are fully capable of identifying such misrepresentation.

I encourage members to remain vigilant about catching the disingenuous posters.

I truly appreciate the numerous volunteer offers to moderate the "steroid underground" subforum. But really, there is nothing to do here. It is uncensored.

 

[Dr JIM]

Ah finally, a forum as it should be!

 

[Millard]

i got your back millard. what i am for is the fairness of the sources and buyers. one nice thing about this board is it is not bias. .

Ah finally, a forum as it should be!

Yea, I'd sure be willing to donate a few buck for such a worthwhile venture

You guys are awesome - I appreciate the support. :thanks:

 

[matthewjasper]

Great Millard!

 

[shamrockbear1]

Not a bad idea but I think the best reviews would be the vets of the board..
Also people with less than 20 posts should not be allowed to give reviews though I broke the rule already.. Lol getting past 20 soon...
Also I will post a review of Gear Pro
TESTOSTERONE CYPIONATE
TC250 - Biotech Labs® (how can this be trademark it's a UG lab) lol
250mg per ml/10ml vial

In a couple of weeks keep you posted I only have my current product which is British Dragon Cyp. 250 and Prop. Which I think is under dosed now I have something to compare it to. Which is ironic how do you compare to UG labs neither has quality control. I can only imagine uncle fester cooking up gear in his dirty bath tub, then bottling it. I'm ready to take some antibiotics right now thinking about it...
I think I may start a new brand called Shamrock Dirty BallSack Labs.

 

[Realdutch]

Not a bad idea but I think the best reviews would be the vets of the board..
Also people with less than 20 posts should not be allowed to give reviews though I broke the rule already.. Lol getting past 20 soon...
Also I will post a review of Gear Pro
TESTOSTERONE CYPIONATE
TC250 - Biotech Labs® (how can this be trademark it's a UG lab) lol
250mg per ml/10ml vial

In a couple of weeks keep you posted I only have my current product which is British Dragon Cyp. 250 and Prop. Which I think is under dosed now I have something to compare it to. Which is ironic how do you compare to UG labs neither has quality control. I can only imagine uncle fester cooking up gear in his dirty bath tub, then bottling it. I'm ready to take some antibiotics right now thinking about it...
I think I may start a new brand called Shamrock Dirty BallSack Labs.

Then you have your first customer :drooling::drooling:

 

[Dr JIM]

Less than twenty posts prohibits reviewing products?
May sound reasonable but some may have just recently discovered Meso yet were actively involved in other more oppressive forums. These new participants (wether novice or veteran anabolic enthusiasts) must remain as full players otherwise where do the restrictions end. A slippery slope I hope Meso avoids like the plague.

 

[Millard]

Not a bad idea but I think the best reviews would be the vets of the board..

Vets are critical to the success of an uncensored forum. I am in no way trying to minimize the importance of veteran members of this and other forums. Vets know how the source black market operates and have seen every scam and will publicly expose it.

But what vets can not do is order from every source.

Direct evidence from an actual customer that orders from a source remains the gold standard.

Vets and members who gather information collected on forums essentially provide hearsay evidence.

Hearsay evidence is still valid evidence and often very helpful.

But a real customer who directly experienced being scammed by a source is ALWAYS stronger evidence than someone who essentially says I heard it from a friend or a friend of a friend.

Direct evidence trumps hearsay evidence.

The problem, as identified in my original post, is determining FAKE customers from REAL customers and exposing secret company reps. How do we determine if the direct evidence has been falsified?

This is where vets are invaluable. This is why we appreciate the vets of the forum. They have seen it all and can share their years of experience.

 

[Dr JIM]

Your points are well taken.

 

[Millard]

Less than twenty posts prohibits reviewing products?
May sound reasonable but some may have just recently discovered Meso yet were actively involved in other more oppressive forums. These new participants (wether novice or veteran anabolic enthusiasts) must remain as full players otherwise where do the restrictions end. A slippery slope I hope Meso avoids like the plague.

:goodpost:

I have no intentions of going down that slippery slope.

I realize that other forums have implemented these measures with some success but, as Dr. Jim points out, there are limitations.

Rather than try to be like all the other forums (with known limitations), I want to try something different with meso (and very likely encounter our own limitations along the way).

If you hate censorship, and love honesty and transparency, give us your support

 

[Dr JIM]

Free speech, ah that is why Meso is so exclusive. Without it, this site becomes another internet clone and is the reason I've abandoned three other steroid forums having grown weary of the incessant
reminders by "moderators" of the absurd "rules" embracing censorship.

 

[JonnySak]

Vets are critical to the success of an uncensored forum. I am in no way trying to minimize the importance of veteran members of this and other forums. Vets know how the source black market operates and have seen every scam and will publicly expose it.

But what vets can not do is order from every source.

Direct evidence from an actual customer that orders from a source remains the gold standard.

Vets and members who gather information collected on forums essentially provide hearsay evidence.

Hearsay evidence is still valid evidence and often very helpful.

But a real customer who directly experienced being scammed by a source is ALWAYS stronger evidence than someone who essentially says I heard it from a friend or a friend of a friend.

Direct evidence trumps hearsay evidence.

The problem, as identified in my original post, is determining FAKE customers from REAL customers and exposing secret company reps. How do we determine if the direct evidence has been falsified?

This is where vets are invaluable. This is why we appreciate the vets of the forum. They have seen it all and can share their years of experience.

People need to be suspicious of vets also. I saw one a few months ago talking about how great his cycle was, yet failed to mention he was a rep (and mod) for them on another board.

 

[Millard]

The questions, comments and suggestions for a steroid testing service was such a good idea that I move the discussion to its own thread.

Please expand on the idea here --> https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/134319120

 

[Skull]

Bump.....Man @Millard Baker you sure have came along way since this huh?

 

[Millard]

Bump.....Man @Millard Baker you sure have came along way since this huh?

Wow. Regarding a lab testing program, I've forgotten how long we've been this

 

[Skull]

Wow. Regarding a lab testing program, I've forgotten how long we've been this

I bet this takes ya back lol I fpund this as I was trying to help a member here with a source check an ran upon this. After reading it, I couldn't help myself....I had to bump it You are the man with the plan Millard an we should all be very greatful to be a part of what you have created I know for sure iam

 

[Big_paul]

This forum is a resource for members to share their experiences ordering online, share and discuss third-party links, and rate these sources.

The goal of this uncensored forum is to have a fully transparent discussion and analysis of exactly what goes on in the steroid underground including the deceit and dishonesty among its many players.

MESO is not going to act like "big brother". We're not going to "approve" sources. This is a slippery slope that usually leads to corruption at some level either by administrators or by moderators. I'm not going that route.

The purpose of the forum is to help guide members through the dangers of the black market.

Company representatives are NOT explicitly prohibited from responding to customer complaints. However, they MUST identify themselves. And any type of solicitation is frowned upon

Reps who fail to identify themselves as such will be subject to public exposure of their violation of the etiquette rules of this subforum.

An uncensored forum comes with good and bad. I have had numerous requests to delete posts and ban reps. However, I think it is clear that members are fully capable of identifying such misrepresentation.

I encourage members to remain vigilant about catching the disingenuous posters.

I truly appreciate the numerous volunteer offers to moderate the "steroid underground" subforum. But really, there is nothing to do here. It is uncensored.

With all due respect, the only reviews that can be posted are negative reviews. That is not transparent.

 

[Millard]

With all due respect, the only reviews that can be posted are negative reviews. That is not transparent.

False.

 

[Big_paul]

False.

Go take a look at what cbs is doing to PI. What is that called? Is he free to leave a review. Just asking , I am going to keep it clean.

 

[Big_paul]

Careful cbs smells blood in the water. He bites.