[17] Starting First TestE 4/500mg Wk

[LeanJeanJacob]

Hey my name is Jacob. I'm only 17 so I know I'm gonna get shit for this. I won't tolerate it and negative replies will be ignored/ blocked. I just ordered my first bottle of Test E 250Mg/ML 10ml bottle. This should be enough for 5 weeks at 250mg twice a week. I also have 20 200mg DNP which I don't plan to take unless I gain alot of fat from this bulking cycle. I bought from euroking a few days ago heard mixed reviews on almost any online source so I said screw it gotta go with one. I kept price cheap 45$, 65$ with shipping and 10% off. So I'm not losing to much if it's a scam. I plan to determine if it's real to buy more because I didn't have 120$ to get 2 bottles nor did I want scammed for that much if it is one. My goal is to put on 8-10lbs of muscle, with calisthenics, home equipment(jump rope, dumbells, pull/chin up bar, high jump boxes), and a pretty strict diet. On cycle cal goal 2,500 calories, and consists of mostly beans, lean meat, broccoli, califlour, potatoes, nuts, eggs, and fresh fruits. I'm a vegan but will be eating meat during the cycle not because I can't get enough protein as a vegan but from the fact that I can only eat so many beans and nuts before I'm fucking sick of them. My current weight is 138lbs, 5'11.5. I'll be tracking max push up reps, max pullup chin up reps, highest no step squat jump. I don't have anything to prevent sides like gyno, but I do have prescript acne meds from a few years ago as I used to get it bad. With that being said I do have a source to get these from with expedited shipping in case I need them asap. If I get tingling sensation in nips then I will discontinue cycle effective immediately. However I'm hoping this won't be a prpblem as many people say its not necessary on such a low does. I might even bump down to 400mg a week to extend cycle, to prevent test conversion to estro. Will this help or is this unnecessary. I used to weigh 150lbs and had a decent tummy bump. Def not fat and I was used to being decently athletic. I started up calisthenics and went vegan and dropped pounds like crazy even when I wasn't obese to begin with. Here I am at 138lbs and my goal is to have a aesthetic body.
I've always found losing weight fairly easy so I most likely won't take the DNP.
I've always struggled with putting on muscle, I can probably attribute that to not going to a real gym for targeting specific muscle groups. I'm hoping after the first cycle I'll feel confident enough to go the gym and not be embarassed for not knowing how to use all the equipment. If you have any questions or anything to recommend lmk, I think I covered everything but probably missed something along the way. I'll upload a pic of a year ago, and a week ago.

 

[SuperMaroid]

17 years old and 138lbs, sounds like you dont know what your doing at all. You will be getting a lot of shit for this one on here. Not a very smart decision. You need to get down your diet and training before you cycle. You need to have a starting base, with atleast 5 years of training under your belt.

Now since your going to do this cycle anyways I will give you some advice. Before you ever start a cycle you want everything on hand. You say if you get gyno you will stop taking the test, but that will not make the gyno go away. You never talked about a PCT or a way for your body to recover after. You need to do a ton of research before you do this cycle. And you need to have all the gear before you start.

For your cycle you need:

2 bottles of 250mg test
Aromasin
HCG

For your PCT you need:

Nolva
Clomid

Have all 5 of the things I mentioned before you cycle. You will do 1cc monday, and 1cc thursday, so 500mg a week. You will take 12.5mg eod of aromasin. And 250iu twice a week of HCG. When your cycle ends you will wait 2 weeks from your last shot and do Clomid and Nolva. Clomid 50mg a day for 4 weeks and Nolva 20mg a day for 6 weeks.

Hope I helped. But I strongly recommend you dont do this until your 21 and weigh around 180.

 

[Captain_Fun_Dicks]

Lol, mods remove this.


17, in terrible shape, no AI, no pct, no common sense and no business thinking about using gear.


Learn to eat, lift real weights and stop looking for the easy way out kid. Go get a job and focus on school.

 

[MindlessWork]

There's no such thing as a free lunch even in the training world. If you can't play the game the way it's meant to be played then you are just cheating yourself.

 

[Eman]

Lol, troll thread.

If it's not, I'm subbed in for this train wreck of a cycle.

 

[LeanJeanJacob]

"Not a very smart decision. You need to get down your diet and training before you cycle." IS this a requirement to join the Elite AS Juicers? I knew I'd get shit for not having 2 bottles lhh. I don't even plan to hop on first cycle for another good 2-3 weeks, just made this thread to hold myself to it. I definitely plan to get clomid for during/ after cycle. However I'm pretty sure nolva and aromasin fix the same thing(correct?). I just don't think such a low dose for 6-7weeks would cause me shut down for very long, younger you are the faster the rebound(correct me if I'm wrong plz). Btw first pic say from 2014 is actually from 1-2 weeks before May 2016, and the other 3 were from this month or last 2 months. I can maintain diet easily, and I had my work schedule moved around to allow me to workout 5/7 days a week for at least 1 hour. My typical week is running/jogging 30 mins 3 days a week(mon, wed, fri in the AM), 2 days on legs/arms (Tuesdays/ Wednesdays) Consists of push ups(all kinds), planches, pull up, chin up, assisted hand stand push ups, dips, curls, high jump, squats, lunges, yeah you get the point.

 

[LeanJeanJacob]

"Not a very smart decision. You need to get down your diet and training before you cycle." IS this a requirement to join the Elite AS Juicers? I knew I'd get shit for not having 2 bottles lhh. I don't even plan to hop on first cycle for another good 2-3 weeks, just made this thread to hold myself to it. I definitely plan to get clomid for during/ after cycle. However I'm pretty sure nolva and aromasin fix the same thing(correct?). I just don't think such a low dose for 6-7weeks would cause me shut down for very long, younger you are the faster the rebound(correct me if I'm wrong plz). Btw first pic say from 2014 is actually from 1-2 weeks before May 2016, and the other 3 were from this month or last 2 months. I can maintain diet easily, and I had my work schedule moved around to allow me to workout 5/7 days a week for at least 1 hour. My typical week is running/jogging 30 mins 3 days a week(mon, wed, fri in the AM), 2 days on legs/arms (Tuesdays/ Wednesdays) Consists of push ups(all kinds), planches, pull up, chin up, assisted hand stand push ups, dips, curls, high jump, squats, lunges, yeah you get the point.

clomid or nolva not both, I'd choose clomid. PCT
And as my AI on cycle I'd choose aromasin, no HCG needed.
In conclusion, I'll be picking up a bottle of aromasin and Clomid before the cycle...

 

[SuperMaroid]

It doesnt even look like you workout. You need to build a base before you do AAS. And you need to do a lot more research. Nolva and Aromasin are not the same.

 

[thoryamaha919]

Your balls haven't even dropped yet!

Eat, train, sleep, and repeat!

Your natural test levels are going to be at the highest levels over the next 5 years.

 

[LeanJeanJacob]

It doesnt even look like you workout. You need to build a base before you do AAS. And you need to do a lot more research. Nolva and Aromasin are not the same.

Is there a scientific reason as to why you need a base? Other than the broscience? Genuine question.
Yeah I fixed my statements right after I made that post, in a post below it. I'll.be getting clomid and aromasin. Honestly I like the idea of tapering alot better. Less drugs in body, and it's more effective at keeping gains.

At this point I've considered that only taking DNP may be much safer and will allow me to look as good as I want but also not potentially screwing up my test levels forever or ruining my natural test peak. I certainly can say I have not made a definitive awnser, but DNP is looking more likely. Not only does this give me time to go to the real gym before starting a cycle but also allowing me to see what I can accomlish in reguards to muscle gain without help of AAS.

 

[johnnydoe]

I hope you realize that dnp is the harshest drug that you can take. I don't even know why you would consider it. You'll probably die from it as small as you are. Do you know anything about it or what it is used for? Throw that shit away you don't need it.

 

[Les]

Dude I hope you are a troll. If you're not you need some @hurricane tough love.
This is fucking silly.

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[johnnydoe]

Has to be a troll. Not many people can be that stupid.

 

[BigSky]

Do not use dnp. It can kill you. And with your stats and reckless behavior I'm pretty confident in saying it will kill you. And regards to the test, don't do it. Your 17. Like wtf why do you need to be on gear at 17. Gotta be big for fucking gym dodgeball or something? Don't do it.

First get your diet in check. Not saying being vegan is wrong or bad. But if your trying to do anything with bodybuilding you'll make little progress.

Second go to the gym. Body weight shit and jump rope will get you nothing on cycle. Go to the gym. Play around. Learn. Ask for assistance. Learn to use the machines and watch videos online of how to do exercises.

You need a base before starting because that means you will have learned to eat and train correctly so you won't lose everything you worked for on cycle. You won't learn that in 10 weeks on cycle and you will lose every thing within two months of ending the cycle. Gear doesn't magically make you big. You have to work twice as hard for twice as long and eat twice as much as the next guy. That's how you get twice as big.

But your probably gonna do it anyway. So I won't even go into how badly your gonna fuck up your hormones up while your still growing into an adult. You'll probably never have a fully developed hpta because yours is gonna be shut down before it learns to function.

So as stated. Get two bottles of test e. Pin one ml twice a week. And use aromasin or adex as your ai. You probably will need it because your natural test is high right now, but will never be that way again if you do this, and by dumping excess in your e2 will skyrocket and bam bitch tits To go with your 14" arms.

GEt clomid and Nolva. Both. Together. Not one or the other. And use it as directed above.

Also start going to a church and get into the habit of praying that you don't hurt yourself or ruin your body before it gets a chance to develop.

Have fun buddy. I hope you kill it in intramural soccer

 

[BigSky]

STAY IN FUCKING SCHOOL!

 

[Xragexx]

Wow, good luck dude..with all due respect, from the looks of your body now, I would have to assume you think AAS are magical drugs. These guys are right get a decent base with a couple years of lifting.. You will be surprised what a little hard work will do without the drugs

 

[tweek]

I really hope you take into consideration all of these posts for your own sake. Really man throw that DNP in the trash asap no need for that poison, just so you know it is plant fertilizer(think about that for a moment). Your 17 man there is absolutely no need for more testosterone ; train hard, eat loads and keep pushing yourself. Beginner gains are always the best, you can easily put on 10-15 lbs in a full year.

 

[SuperMaroid]

Is there a scientific reason as to why you need a base? Other than the broscience? Genuine question.
Yeah I fixed my statements right after I made that post, in a post below it. I'll.be getting clomid and aromasin. Honestly I like the idea of tapering alot better. Less drugs in body, and it's more effective at keeping gains.

At this point I've considered that only taking DNP may be much safer and will allow me to look as good as I want but also not potentially screwing up my test levels forever or ruining my natural test peak. I certainly can say I have not made a definitive awnser, but DNP is looking more likely. Not only does this give me time to go to the real gym before starting a cycle but also allowing me to see what I can accomlish in reguards to muscle gain without help of AAS.

You dont need gear to build a base. Building a base shows that you know what your doing. Obviously you have no idea what your doing. Your pictures prove it. It looks like you never lifted a weight in your life. Not one person on this forum will agree with you. Your making a very stupid decision. Be smart and get your training and diet down before you cycle. Thats what I mean by building a base. All the gear in the world wont make you look good if you have no idea what your doing.

 

[hurricane]

Are you fukin kidding me? Your 17. 5'11" at 138 pounds. And on top of it your going to talk shit and say I don't want negative feedback or I'll block you. Who the fuk do you think you are. 3 weeks post op from major heart surgery at 39. So your goal is to not be ashamed of your physique so you can workout. You don't even know how to use the machines at a gym. You also look like you should be eating. A LOT. you say your a vegan but will eat meat this cycle. That tells me you also have no discipline. And don't get me started on DNP use at your age. At your size my 7 year old daughter could take you down. Have you seen a doctor? Obtained any blood work? I didn't think so. Please no one else give this clown any info. If he's legit(I doubt it), were encouraging a minor to use gear. I highly suggest you see a therapist for your obvious psychiatric issues. I take it you never want a family or kids. Your life will be fukd by the time your 20. If you want to block me go ahead. All the vets on this site are going to tear you a lot more then me. Layoff the gear and actually workout for 7-8 years. Your post may win the blue ribbon for dumbest post of the month. Get off this site, stay in school and visit again in 8 years. Although in 8 years you could be dead because of stupidity. You can think what you want of me but I can promise you one thing. Your about to fuk yourself for life. And don't ever come on here trying to throw around your weight at 17. Plus you look like you have never touched a weight in your life. I truly hope this post of yours is a joke because its a clusterfuk to say the least. You don't need gear, you need a kick to the nuts. And as far as advice goes. Don't breath underwater. Your free tip of the day. Now get the fuk out of here and stop wasting our time.

 

[hurricane]

Dude I hope you are a troll. If you're not you need some @hurricane tough love.
This is fucking silly.

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This kid is beyond fucked Les. 17 years old at 138. Is a vegan but will eat meat. DNP use at 138lbs. This kid is gonna kill himself. No member should be giving this kid advice. And I'm glad you didn't bro
Hope this kids parents have good health insurance because he's gonna need it. And I love the fact that he rolls in here with that attitude of his. lol. Take care bro. Talk soon