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SuperMaroid said:
I'm saying your advice is bad. I have tried drinking a gallon of milk a day. I have experience doing this. And if you just learn to eat, it will be much more beneficial. Since I started lifting 7 years ago I have gained over 100lbs. I know what I'm talking about. Dont believe everything you read until you try it.

Have you tried this before? What have you learned from it?

I learned that eating steak, chicken, rice, pasta, oatmeal, and eggs to gain weight is better than milk.

Saying to choose milk over roids is just silly to me.
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Yes @SuperMaroid I have tried it before. As a matter of fact I just began this regimen 6 weeks ago and as I said I went from 128 to 148 in 5 weeks. So it works for me and I suspect it works for most skinny hardgainers as well.

Why are you so opposed to this? Just because it did not work for you does not mean it doesnt work, we have different bodies and what works for Joe may not work for David and vice versa. What I am telling the kid is to give it a shot. Hell he can try it for a week and if he makes no gains than he can discontinue the milk. What is it that you are afraid is going to happen? That he will gain too much fat? Or that he wont make any gains? As I said I am up 20lbs and probably have gone up about 2 or 3% bodyfat but I am not too worried because I can burn fat very, very easily. I assume a skinny 17 year old is even more efficient than me.

Either way I dont even know why you and me are debating about this because the kid has not returned, I doubt he is going to listen to any advice other than to inject the roids.

Thats the problem with the youth today, they have no attention span and dont take advice. And yes, he probably watched "Zyzz Motivation - Genesis" ROFL

He will be back after his pack arrives saying "I just did my first injection of Test E 3 days ago. Wheres the big muscles??"
 
Baxter513-proton said:
Yes @SuperMaroid I have tried it before. As a matter of fact I just began this regimen 6 weeks ago and as I said I went from 128 to 148 in 5 weeks. So it works for me and I suspect it works for most skinny hardgainers as well.

Why are you so opposed to this? Just because it did not work for you does not mean it doesnt work, we have different bodies and what works for Joe may not work for David and vice versa. What I am telling the kid is to give it a shot. Hell he can try it for a week and if he makes no gains than he can discontinue the milk. What is it that you are afraid is going to happen? That he will gain too much fat? Or that he wont make any gains? As I said I am up 20lbs and probably have gone up about 2 or 3% bodyfat but I am not too worried because I can burn fat very, very easily. I assume a skinny 17 year old is even more efficient than me.

Either way I dont even know why you and me are debating about this because the kid has not returned, I doubt he is going to listen to any advice other than to inject the roids.

Thats the problem with the youth today, they have no attention span and dont take advice. And yes, he probably watched "Zyzz Motivation - Genesis" ROFL

He will be back after his pack arrives saying "I just did my first injection of Test E 3 days ago. Wheres the big muscles??"
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What I am saying is better advice to give would be to get your diet down, instead of drinking a gallon a milk a day. Solid foods beat liquid. I get that you have gained weight from it but milk isnt the answer to gaining weight, its food.

I'm just trying to help you out. You or anyone else can do whatever they want. I have tried everything in the books but once I realized that all I had to do was eat it helped me out so much. Eat, eat, eat, when your full eat more, wait an hour and eat more. I am an ectomorph, and I know the feeling of being skinny and not wanting to eat.

Just giving my own 2 cents on what you said about milk. If you want pm me and I will give you my diet or help you make one. I do this for a living, I'm a personal trainer.
 
SuperMaroid said:
What I am saying is better advice to give would be to get your diet down, instead of drinking a gallon a milk a day. Solid foods beat liquid. I get that you have gained weight from it but milk isnt the answer to gaining weight, its food.

I'm just trying to help you out. You or anyone else can do whatever they want. I have tried everything in the books but once I realized that all I had to do was eat it helped me out so much. Eat, eat, eat, when your full eat more, wait an hour and eat more. I am an ectomorph, and I know the feeling of being skinny and not wanting to eat.

Just giving my own 2 cents on what you said about milk. If you want pm me and I will give you my diet or help you make one. I do this for a living, I'm a personal trainer.
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Thank you for your advice. It looks like we had a miscommunication earlier. The reason that the milk worked well for me is that I could not get myself to hold down the solid foods, I had a very low appetite and if I tried to force feed myself I would end up vomiting it up.

The milk goes down easy and after a few days the body gets accustomed to an extra 1000 calories per day and stops resisting it. And this translates over to solid food as well. At this point I am drinking maybe 1/4 of a gallon and eating the rest in solid food and protein shakes. But it was because of the milk that I was able to get to this point in the journey. Its either that or smoke weed, lol.

ANd I have not smoked weed or drank alcohol in over a year so its really not an option for me to smoke weed. Its impresssive that you where able to gain over 100 lbs. If I could even get to 175 at 5' 10" I may be stretching my genetic max. I was the smallest boy in my entire class when I was in school. What I weigh now which is 149.5 is the most I ever weighed IN MY ENTIRE LIFE and I am almost 40.

I am well aware of the bad health effects of cow's milk. I am just doig the milk for 2 months and then will discontinue it altoghether.
 
Haha what an awesome thread, OP is an exellent example of natural selection.
When you are this stupid and don't listen to anyone's advices, you will just destroy yourself and you actually deserve it for being that retarded.
 
Baxter513-proton said:
Thank you for your advice. It looks like we had a miscommunication earlier. The reason that the milk worked well for me is that I could not get myself to hold down the solid foods, I had a very low appetite and if I tried to force feed myself I would end up vomiting it up.

The milk goes down easy and after a few days the body gets accustomed to an extra 1000 calories per day and stops resisting it. And this translates over to solid food as well. At this point I am drinking maybe 1/4 of a gallon and eating the rest in solid food and protein shakes. But it was because of the milk that I was able to get to this point in the journey. Its either that or smoke weed, lol.

ANd I have not smoked weed or drank alcohol in over a year so its really not an option for me to smoke weed. Its impresssive that you where able to gain over 100 lbs. If I could even get to 175 at 5' 10" I may be stretching my genetic max. I was the smallest boy in my entire class when I was in school. What I weigh now which is 149.5 is the most I ever weighed IN MY ENTIRE LIFE and I am almost 40.

I am well aware of the bad health effects of cow's milk. I am just doig the milk for 2 months and then will discontinue it altoghether.
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Dude you obviously cant be accustomed to the milk because the pics you sent me you look over weight. There is no shortcuts to gaining weight. Eat big to get big. You only weigh 140 and you dont take my advice on eating. I gave you a diet and you choose milk instead.

I'm done with this post and talking to you. I dont have time to give out advice to stubborn idiots.

And I like how you changed your icon to someone who is actually in shape. Post the pics you sent to me and see what people on here say. I went easy on you to try and help you.
 
Just to reiterate, I had to discontinue the milk drinking after about 7 weeks. I was gaining way too much bodyfat. I am 38 years old so really the milk is recommended to 19 year olds and guys under 21. But it is not all bad because it definatley increased my appetite and I was able to get above my previous 150lb limit.

The sad thing is that now I will have to do cardio in addition to my weight lifting because of the increase in bodyfat. I am about 16 - 18% bodyfat thanks to the damn milk

So yes I went from 128 to 150. But alot of the gains was fat =(
 
Baxter513-proton said:
Just to reiterate, I had to discontinue the milk drinking after about 7 weeks. I was gaining way too much bodyfat. I am 38 years old so really the milk is recommended to 19 year olds and guys under 21. But it is not all bad because it definatley increased my appetite and I was able to get above my previous 150lb limit.

The sad thing is that now I will have to do cardio in addition to my weight lifting because of the increase in bodyfat. I am about 16 - 18% bodyfat thanks to the damn milk

So yes I went from 128 to 150. But alot of the gains was fat =(
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Who says the milk is for 19 year olds?!?! The milk is a powerlifting technique. Eat big to get big, there are no shortcuts.

You say it increased your appetite by drinking a gallon of milk a day. I seriously doubt that. I bet you ate a lot less when you drank all of that milk.

You think the milk helped you but then you complain about the fat you gained from it....
 
Baxter513-proton said:
Just to reiterate, I had to discontinue the milk drinking after about 7 weeks. I was gaining way too much bodyfat. I am 38 years old so really the milk is recommended to 19 year olds and guys under 21. But it is not all bad because it definatley increased my appetite and I was able to get above my previous 150lb limit.

The sad thing is that now I will have to do cardio in addition to my weight lifting because of the increase in bodyfat. I am about 16 - 18% bodyfat thanks to the damn milk

So yes I went from 128 to 150. But alot of the gains was fat =(
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WHaaaat is this dude doing GOMAD?? The legendary internet meme "yeah you should do SS + GOMAD)
 

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SuperMaroid said:
Who says the milk is for 19 year olds?!?! The milk is a powerlifting technique. Eat big to get big, there are no shortcuts.

You say it increased your appetite by drinking a gallon of milk a day. I seriously doubt that. I bet you ate a lot less when you drank all of that milk.

You think the milk helped you but then you complain about the fat you gained from it....
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It did help I think it the long run. Its better than being skin and bones. I am not having too hard a time burning this fat with my metabolism. If I had to start over I would only drink half a gallon of milk per day. Its only for a month or 2.

I get that this is unconventional advice to you people but you are obviously not ectomorphs with skinny wrists.

If you cannot wrap your pointer finger and thumb around your wrist (like wearing a bracelet) than you are not an ectomorph so you cannot relate to this advice.
 
Baxter513-proton said:
It did help I think it the long run. Its better than being skin and bones. I am not having too hard a time burning this fat with my metabolism. If I had to start over I would only drink half a gallon of milk per day. Its only for a month or 2.

I get that this is unconventional advice to you people but you are obviously not ectomorphs with skinny wrists.

If you cannot wrap your pointer finger and thumb around your wrist (like wearing a bracelet) than you are not an ectomorph so you cannot relate to this advice.
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You have posted pics to me and your not a true ectomorph. Post a pic here and lets see if everyone agrees with me.

I am a true ectomorph, and have gained over 100 pounds.

You think gaining fat now will help you in the long run? Seriously what are you talking about? Where do you find all your broscience from?

"If you cannot wrap your pointer finger and thumb around your wrist your not an extomorph"

Do you just make this shit up?

Your 38 years old around 140 lb, you cant even bench 135 and your talking about taking roids soon...

I gave him advice in a pm about diet, and learning to eat. And told him that he needs to learn how to lift and diet naturally for a few years before he starts roids. He doesnt take my advice and says my advice is "old fashion"

This guy is a lost cause
 
@Throwback

Yes this thread is comical at the least, but it does remind me of me at that age.

OP, I too was very skinny much skinnier than you in high school. Many say you don't look like you lift, but they are trying to motivate you with toughness.

You are making a right decision by not using roids and learning to get a base. What these guys are telling you, is what I wish I was told when I was younger about food and nutrition and although you might think you eat a lot you don't.

See, I lived my life thinking I ate enough but just couldn't grow, it wasn't until I started tracking my macros and calories that I realized, damn I don't eat enough.... here are some easy tips to get some added calories in that are easy.

1. Drink one liter of fair life milk. 1,000 calories and 100 grams of protein. ( bring this to school and just drink on this shit man)

2. Olive oil take a couple of tea spoons through the day.

3. Peanut butter- just take a couple of teaspoons through the day like medicine. ( make a habit of this)

4. Pasteurized egg whites. Put half a carton in a blender and one scoop of chocolate protein powder ( tastes like yahoo chocolate milk) this is 100 grams of protein easily.

If you need advice just pm me, last thing I want to see is you taking the misinformation about dnp as not being dangerous because it is. There really won't be a reason to gain a lot of fat with proper nutrition and you obviously have the fat burning part down with how fast you previously lost weight.

My closing statement; at 17 I too thought I would live forever and I never worried about consequences to my decisions and told myself I would cross that bridge if it came. Right now you might not want kids or to get married or any of that junk , but don't be brash, be reasonable and think long term because we only die once. Take care of the body and forget about all this advanced stuff for now, spends years getting educated in the field of the anatomy and how to recruit satellite cells to the muscles etc, once you build your base of not only the body, but build your base of knowledge is one ready for the next step.

Wish you luck in life.

5. Carry around a bag of nuts, doesn't matter, almonds, peanuts, cashews who cares just eat them bitches through the day.




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@CdnGuy think you posted the wrong thread or something? Don't think you meant to post a sources thread in thread? Lol


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Throwback said:
Huh?....Morning!! Said the gutless lying ostrich!!
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Roger rabbit said:
@CdnGuy think you posted the wrong thread or something? Don't think you meant to post a sources thread in thread? Lol
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This isn't a source thread and yes I meant to post it here lol The link goes straight to the point. Seems Throwback thinks he's above everyone else here. Most do right and take responsibility when they fuck up. So why is he any different? Very disrespectful to all members imo...

Edit- Btw @Roger rabbit I was just speaking a loud. Not directly the question to you.
 
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This isn't a source thread and yes I meant to post it here lol The link goes straight to the point. Seems Throwback thinks he's above everyone else here. Most do right and take responsibility when they fuck up. So why is he any different? Very disrespectful to all members imo...
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If your opinion mattered it would be something to discuss.
But since all you have to offer is opinion rather than perspective from experience and some sort of moral better than thou pedistal you have set yourself upon... Im not interested in anything you have to say.
Now run along back to the youths that you supposedly work with where you can inspire awe and exercise the pathetic craving for authority you so want to exhibit from behind the safety of your locked door and keyboard.
 
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