1g Deca Only Experiment

[MFAAS]

Honestly, had no intention to, because no matter what, I'm doing through the process, then I'll go into a cutting phase. The only reason I have bloods at all, is because I get annual check ups. I know it's stupid, but I just never cared and I was always fine.

Well it would be really interesting to see your hormone panel while you're running Deca only!

 

[JC Grifter]

One of these days I plan on actually reading over what I type before hitting send lol

 

[NBE]

One of these days I plan on actually reading over what I type before hitting send lol

 

[Deleted member 123722]

Chest is not a weakness of mine, yet it's blown the fuck up because of the Drol after doing 12 sets for chest day.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

You said deca won't bloat but you're actually bloated a lot.
I like your expirament you should ramp up deca to 2g its getting interesting

 

[Gbro]

Very succulent

 

[Deleted member 123722]

You said deca won't bloat but you're actually bloated a lot.
I like your expirament you should ramp up deca to 2g its getting interesting

I'm also eating ~4300 calories, so yea...whatever is happening is just lower stomach and lower back... legs and other parts still as "lean" as before.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

You said deca won't bloat but you're actually bloated a lot.
I like your expirament you should ramp up deca to 2g its getting interesting

I will ramp it up to 5grams lol, no but seriously will go to 1.5 at minimum.

 

[1Megaman]

Honestly, had no intention to, because no matter what, I'm doing through the process, then I'll go into a cutting phase. The only reason I have bloods at all, is because I get annual check ups. I know it's stupid, but I just never cared and I was always fine.

Come on man, you have to care more about your long term health than that.

 

[Cherokee]

You should at least get an EGC running that much nandrolone. Also someone had mentioned vitamin K2 for the heart. I looked into it and it’s sounds solid

Is nandrolone more damaging than testosterone?

 

[JC Grifter]

Is nandrolone more damaging than testosterone?

Yes

 

[Deleted member 123722]

Come on man, you have to care more about your long term health than that.

I don't drink, smoke, or do anything else... My body will be fine handling a cycle like it always has. I'm not running anything compared what other nut jobs have done lol.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

Yes

That's debatable.

 

[Cherokee]

I don't drink, smoke, or do anything else... My body will be fine handling a cycle like it always has. I'm not running anything compared what other nut jobs have done lol.

You are a smart guy... I think you need to take the health aspect of this a little more seriously.

 

[theotherguy]

I don't drink, smoke, or do anything else... My body will be fine handling a cycle like it always has. I'm not running anything compared what other nut jobs have done lol.

I eat clean, don't drink, don't smoke, no recreational drugs (aside from AAS), my blood tests always come back good, I train my ass off, and I always feel pretty damn good.

About a week ago I was diagnosed with moderate cardiomyopathy. Not everything is what it seems just because you don't feel bad. Some stuff doesn't show up without VERY specific testing.

Now to be fair, in retrospect, I think this was a long time coming, as I have only been using AAS for about 3 years, but it can creep up on you. We were both young Marines once, and I think some of my habits from then caught up to me as well.

 

[malfeasance]

That's debatable.

Where is your evidence for the debate? There are plenty of studies showing nandrolone's negative effects on the cardiovascular system. I did not realize there was any dispute about it, but I would like to read what you have if anything.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

Where is your evidence for the debate? There are plenty of studies showing nandrolone's negative effects on the cardiovascular system. I did not realize there was any dispute about it, but I would like to read what you have if anything.

I've read it is more toxic to the brain, and more damaging to veins by a number of 11x, yet then you can read how people have considered replacing Test with Deca for TRT.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

You are a smart guy... I think you need to take the health aspect of this a little more seriously.

Like I said earlier, it is "stupid," but at the same time, everyone says if you take tren for more than 8 weeks, it will destroy you...Yet I took 200mg for literally 6 months, and when I was done, everything was fine. In fact, I only waited 1 month to jump on my Test/Primo cycle, and everything was PERFECT, except AST was 51, Hemocrit was 51% and HDL was low, which I naturally have lower HDL. My blood pressure was normal.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

I eat clean, don't drink, don't smoke, no recreational drugs (aside from AAS), my blood tests always come back good, I train my ass off, and I always feel pretty damn good.

About a week ago I was diagnosed with moderate cardiomyopathy. Not everything is what it seems just because you don't feel bad. Some stuff doesn't show up without VERY specific testing.

Now to be fair, in retrospect, I think this was a long time coming, as I have only been using AAS for about 3 years, but it can creep up on you. We were both young Marines once, and I think some of my habits from then caught up to me as well.

I get what you're saying, but the point I'm making is, if i take bloods or anything else, and something comes up, I'm not gonna stop dead in the tracks lol. I'm gonna think: Ok, well once this cycle and cut are over, you're going on TRT and that's it.

 

[theotherguy]

Like I said earlier, it is "stupid," but at the same time, everyone says if you take tren for more than 8 weeks, it will destroy you...Yet I took 200mg for literally 6 months, and when I was done, everything was fine. In fact, I only waited 1 month to jump on my Test/Primo cycle, and everything was PERFECT, except AST was 51, Hemocrit was 51% and HDL was low, which I naturally have lower HDL. My blood pressure was normal.

What is your EF like? Are any heart valves leaking? Any hypertophy in your heart? What about cardiac remodeling? Any arrhythmia? How much brain plaque do you have?

I get what you're saying, but the point I'm making is, if i take bloods or anything else, and something comes up, I'm not gonna stop dead in the tracks lol. I'm gonna think: Ok, well once this cycle and cut are over, you're going on TRT and that's it.

I was in the same boat as you for the most part. Sure my liver numbers were mildly out of whack, but otherwise my blood work looked pretty damn good. I am also not telling you to stop. But being haphazard and pretending like everything is "good to go" without really knowing, is silly.

I just want you to be aware of the potential ramifications of these decisions. Whether or not you take them seriously is up to you. You have already told us you're throwing caution to the wind, and I support your right to do that.