1g Deca Only Experiment

[Deleted member 123722]

You have been so over the place man.

what point have you made? You’ve been on deca for 1-2 months technically not deca only because you added 10 other compounds for a week at a time randomly.

The deca hasn’t even been able to show it’s true potential for the amount of time you’ve been on if it’s been 1.5 months.

You’re not able to stick with it. The second you added anything else this deca only goes out the window.

Except the point is made: you don't need test to run a cycle, which as you can see, boggles most people's mind.

And yea, if shit goes wrong I'm going to adjust, I'm not gonna kill myself for a board lol.

 

[Pineapples4Puss]

Except the point is made: you don't need test to run a cycle, which as you can see, boggles most people's mind.

And yea, if shit goes wrong I'm going to adjust, I'm not gonna kill myself for a board lol.

Nobody said you need test to run a cycle. People do dumb shit all the time like anavar only cycles. You can do that. Doesn’t mean it’s right.

You lasted 10 weeks……. Most people run deca for 16-20.


Wouldn’t call this train wreck of an experiment a success.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

Yea I'm not going back and forth arguing with anons who clearly can't read...I posted how I'm having issues, am dropping the anadrol, and MAY stop BULKING hard and change course IF I don't feel better soon. But all people here seem to care about are what they can get out of something, bitching about someone changing plans rather than the health of their fellow members. Yea, I'm done posting on here.

Good luck gents.

 

[Pineapples4Puss]

The problem with your analysis is that the only thing that isn't working is the anadrol and BULKING part, which is because of the anadrol mostly. The Deca part has been the same since I started, and I could easily continue deca, as I had ordered more to extend this cycle for another 10. And if I feel I need to change my plan, I will; I'm not beholden to you or any other anon on this board lol.

This "train wreck" proves that you don't need to run Test with Deca to prevent deca dick, that you don't need AIs, you won't get bloated, and all the other BS people have said about Deca. There is nothing wrong with anavar only cycles, again, this is more dogma... This is the problem: people think you MUST take testosterone otherwise your cycle is garbage. Wrong. Again, go back several decades and see how they didn't even RUN TEST at all; they ran Primo, Deca, Dbol, Anavar, Parabolan, Winstrol... Did they all have backne, were they all balding, did the have dick problems? No.

So my experiment showed everyone, but most importantly, ME, that I don't need to run test at all if I don't want to. I don't care what you think, and frankly, I don't need to post anything on these boards, especially if people are starting to get all emotional and upset with the changes that are happening. Unwatch this thread and go elsewhere, no one is forcing you to sit here, and I don't care about your complaints.

I’m not complaining. I’m simply pointing out running deca for 10 weeks while adding insulin, Adrol and GH amongst other things isn’t a proper cycle.

This was a train wreck.

 

[Gbro]

FP is a quitter

 

[NBE]

I’m not complaining. I’m simply pointing out running deca for 10 weeks while adding insulin, Adrol and GH amongst other things isn’t a proper cycle.

This was a train wreck.

Tell us, why isn’t this a proper cycle?

What exactly is a proper cycle?

 

[Type-IIx]

I pointed out FP's "flaws" earlier, but he's a human being and no need to attack the guy for having some things he needs to work on that don't bear repeating. Good luck brother.

 

[Type-IIx]

Tell us, why isn’t this a proper cycle?

What exactly is a proper cycle?

Well deca could have been used in synergy with EQ/tren/test (pick two) as an offseason mass cycle, and the Adrol was thrown in haphazardly. I more take issue with @Pineapples4Puss 's characterization of anavar only as pointless, while it's a good compound solo for women and in some use cases as a non-suppressive supplement.

 

[NBE]

Well deca could have been used in synergy with EQ/tren/test (pick two) as an offseason mass cycle, and the Adrol was thrown in haphazardly. I more take issue with @Pineapples4Puss 's characterization of anavar only as pointless, while it's a good compound solo for women and in some use cases as a non-suppressive supplement.

The Anadrol was his choice of DHT to add to the 19nor for their synergy as I recall, was nothing “haphazard” about it

 

[Type-IIx]

The Anadrol was his choice of DHT to add to the 19nor for their synergy as I recall, was nothing “haphazard” about it

There's no synergy between anadrol and deca bro, unless you consider RAS activation a feature. Respectfully disagee, I think it was pretty haphazard.

 

[Pineapples4Puss]

Tell us, why isn’t this a proper cycle?

What exactly is a proper cycle?

How is this a proper cycle throwing a bunch of shit into it mid cycle when originally it was deca only?

He ran deca for 10 weeks.
Threw insulin and GH in.
Orals in the middle.

Original plan was to show deca only shining. This log dose not show real solid information as it was all over the place is simply what I am saying.

This was a shit show for ten weeks.

 

[NBE]

@Type-IIx

How is there no synergy between combining a 19nor and a dht derivative

 

[Type-IIx]

@Type-IIx

How is there no synergy between combining a 19nor and a dht derivative

Anadrol is not a "DHT derivative" merely because it is already 5α-reduced (specifically, it is a 5α-androstan-3-one). There has to be some property inherent to Adrol that provides for synergy with Deca besides being from a different class of androgen.

 

[NBE]

nadrol is not a "DHT derivative"

Show me the car fax

 

[Pineapples4Puss]

Well deca could have been used in synergy with EQ/tren/test (pick two) as an offseason mass cycle, and the Adrol was thrown in haphazardly. I more take issue with @Pineapples4Puss 's characterization of anavar only as pointless, while it's a good compound solo for women and in some use cases as a non-suppressive supplement.

I just threw that in there saying it’s possible. Doesn’t mean you should.

I’m not talking about women here. I’m talking about general use in men. It’s autistic to nit pick that deep when we are obviously talking about MEN using steroids.

 

[jJjburton]

So do you think its possible, the contemplation of depressive thoughts you been having. Where you said , “why am i doing this to myself,” “what was i thinking”
you are contemplating these actions, where you were gun hoe on them?

These are mental side effects that some AAS have on an individual. This is the depressive thinking that deca can impose on a user.

Most of the time, these mental side effects are not apparent to the user until the user ceases use. They then realize, wow, that cycle really fucked with my head. This is what is going on right now, from your 1000 mg deca only cycle.

 

[GuerillaPete]

If anything he would have needed dbol to get some estrogens.
I get it that deca converts to some kind of estrogen but its not enough .
Old school guys ran deca with dbol so i think that is why they could run no test and be fine.
Also he said he did not feel the joint lubing effect of deca i think this could also have been the lack of estrogens.
Lab work showing estradiol would have been great.
Also this guy was all over the place he literally did everything wrong.
He should have run a mild cycle and cut down to under 10 % and go from there with Bulk/recomp/further cutting.
He would have felt and performed much better i hope he gets his head right does not give up , listens to some advice and does it right.

 

[Gbro]

I'm looking forward to his next cycle- 1000mg tren only

 

[Pineapples4Puss]

I'm looking forward to his next cycle- 1000mg tren only

No ducking balls do it OP.

 

[Type-IIx]

@Pineapples4Puss Autistic... it's down syndrome level thinking to not recognize the practical use cases for oral only cycles, and despite what's common knowledge on the internet (500mg test e, don't take an AI or you'll crash your E2 bro), plenty of guys in reality run orals only for various reasons and with good logic to support them. @NBE I doubt you actually give a shit, but if you want to gain an appreciable understanding of AAS chemistry read Peter Bond's article for a basic understanding Anabolic Steroid Chemistry: A Few Words on Esters and Some Other Common Chemical Alterations - MESO-Rx

and once you've absorbed it, you can PM me, and I'll walk you through how bad the bro-science about "19-nors," "DHT derivatives," actually is.

Anyway, I'm going to go do something more useful than reply to car fax requests and being called autistic by the Pineapples4Puss crew.