(2,4-Dinitrophenol) Log

[TRT]

Not to be a dick but let’s see how fat you are? Let’s see some pics. Even if it’s just your legs, midsection and back. If your not over 25% bf this is dumb and dangerous. I’m all for people using it to battle obesity but if your just the regular joe trying to lose a few pounds, your idiot! Especially if it’s fat gained from using AAS..

Dumb and dangerous? I hardly think so. DNP is dangerous in high doses and a prolonged period of time regardless of dose. The deaths that you hear are about are people taking really high doses.
That girls that died in the UK that sparked the banning of the chemical took 8 caps...do you know how much was in each cap? 200mg. She took 1600mg in a sitting. She must have been 140lbs just a little thing.
So, I'm not here to throw evidence back and forth but I just think that "dumb" and "dangerous" is a bad way to describe the use in my opinion. Especially at 200mg.

Lol I know... I just had such great results last time with minimal sides. I don't take a crazy dose either. Plus it seemed to target the lower abdominal section. I just really wanna see abs now.

Yes, me too. I think that's cause it's the last area for me to loose fat. My lower stomach and my love handles. I always have love handles but I'm lean everywhere else. Veins in my shoulders and all. I hate. Lol

Glad to see someone being smart and using a low dose along with diet and training. I know some guys who take 400-600mg and don't diet or do cardio.
That j think is "dumb".

Thanks for posting this. I won't even post about my DNP use.

 

[Eman]

I won't even post about my DNP use.

Do it!!!

My lower stomach and my love handles. I always have love handles but I'm lean everywhere else. Veins in my shoulders and all

I'm the same way... I had veins like crazy in shoulders and still couldn't get the abs to pop like I wanted. Dexa scan showed dark green everywhere except right around midsection.

I am a believer in stacking other compounds with DNP. Yohimbine, ECA, injectable Carnitine, GH etc. to get fat mobilized. Once you get it mobilized the DNP will do the rest. When using beta agonists, you'll notice they tend to mobilize the "stubborn fat". Lyle McDonald's Stubborn Fat Handbook, or something like that, gives a bunch of ideas on getting fat mobilized... He even outlines a DNP cycle. I kind of think he might be jumping to conclusions with his beliefs on beta blockers, but who knows.

 

[Morefyah]

Do it!!!




I'm the same way... I had veins like crazy in shoulders and still couldn't get the abs to pop like I wanted. Dexa scan showed dark green everywhere except right around midsection.

I am a believer in stacking other compounds with DNP. Yohimbine, ECA, injectable Carnitine, GH etc. to get fat mobilized. Once you get it mobilized the DNP will do the rest. When using beta agonists, you'll notice they tend to mobilize the "stubborn fat". Lyle McDonald's Stubborn Fat Handbook, or something like that, gives a bunch of ideas on getting fat mobilized... He even outlines a DNP cycle. I kind of think he might be jumping to conclusions with his beliefs on beta blockers, but who knows.

Do you compete professionally, why do you care so much about a little fat.?
It’s seems crazy to need such a stack to lose a little stubborn fat. Also @TRT your saying only one person has died and I should retract my statement and say DNP is “smart and safe” seriously??

The Food Standards Agency are aware about 8 deaths involving DNP between 1 January 2017 and 30 June 2018. ... The United Kingdom's Food Standards Agency identifies DNP as "an industrial chemical known to have serious short-term and long-term effects, which can be extremely dangerous to humanhealth." Lol, this is just the UK 8 Deaths. The FDA banned this shit in 1938 if that tells you anything. You guys can do what you want.

 

[Fryguy]

Do you compete professionally, why do you care so much about a little fat.?
It’s seems crazy to need such a stack to lose a little stubborn fat. Also @TRT your saying only one person has died and I should retract my statement and say DNP is “smart and safe” seriously??

The Food Standards Agency are aware about 8 deaths involving DNP between 1 January 2017 and 30 June 2018. ... The United Kingdom's Food Standards Agency identifies DNP as "an industrial chemical known to have serious short-term and long-term effects, which can be extremely dangerous to humanhealth." Lol, this is just the UK 8 Deaths. The FDA banned this shit in 1938 if that tells you anything. You guys can do what you want.

I don't disagree with you. However, everything we do on this form comes with side effects and increased risk of death. I have not had a bad experience with it and I also don't abuse it. Hell, look at the side effects that are possible with statins. Possible liver damage and type 2 diabetes. I also wanted to quote wikipedia about the lowest recorded dose that caused a death, "Case reports have shown that an acute administration of 20–50 mg per kilogram of body weight in humans can be lethal. The lowest published fatal ingested dose is 4.3 mg/kg." I'm about 100kg and max I take is 400mg per day. I couldn't imagine using 2g per day and would never. Why? Although I might not be the smartest, I'm definitely not that dumb.

 

[Eman]

“smart and safe”

Please quote exactly where he said that. I'll wait.

Do you compete professionally? Do you see me giving you shit about you putting superdrol in your body, which is also banned and toxic?

Further, I didn't say I stacked all of them together.. I mentioned a few beta agonists and fat mobilization agents are synergistic... Quote me where I said they should all be stacked together.

About 500 people die from Tylenol every year too so the FDA can suck it.

 

[Morefyah]

Please quote exactly where he said that. I'll wait.

Do you compete professionally? Do you see me giving you shit about you putting superdrol in your body, which is also banned and toxic?

Further, I didn't say I stacked all of them together.. I mentioned a few beta agonists and fat mobilization agents are synergistic... Quote me where I said they should all be stacked together.

Why do the stupid quotes matter so much to you? Yeah, I haven’t used SD in three years. I’m not giving you shit @Eman. That’s why I ended the paragraph with “ do want you want’ This is obviously just a touchy subject for you. My opinion is just that bro. Don’t take it so personal!

 

[Eman]

Why do the stupid quotes matter so much to you? Yeah, I haven’t used SD in three years. I’m not giving you shit @Eman. That’s why I ended the paragraph with “ do want you want’ This is obviously just a touchy subject for you. My opinion is just that bro. Don’t take it so personal!

The quotes matter because you're putting words people's mouth... Putting quotes around words they never said or even implied.

It's not a touchy subject at all, although I don't like having words put in my mouth. I'm just debating you on the subject.

I don't see how it matters on how long it's been since you took SD, my point remains.

 

[Morefyah]

@Eman
I am a believer in stacking other compounds with DNP. Yohimbine, ECA, injectable Carnitine, GH etc. to get fat mobilized.

Sorry I didn’t realize you ment stacked but not at the same time. Missed that part. Me not using SD in three years matters because I will never use it again.
I will never recommend it to someone else. Which means I “learned my lesson” and know better now. I am not telling people to use it. I have moved on!!

 

[TRT]

Do you compete professionally, why do you care so much about a little fat.?
It’s seems crazy to need such a stack to lose a little stubborn fat. Also @TRT your saying only one person has died and I should retract my statement and say DNP is “smart and safe” seriously??

The Food Standards Agency are aware about 8 deaths involving DNP between 1 January 2017 and 30 June 2018. ... The United Kingdom's Food Standards Agency identifies DNP as "an industrial chemical known to have serious short-term and long-term effects, which can be extremely dangerous to humanhealth." Lol, this is just the UK 8 Deaths. The FDA banned this shit in 1938 if that tells you anything. You guys can do what you want.

Eman really said it all. Your putting words in mouth and I never meant safe or that it killed ONLY person. 8 deaths in how long? I'll take my chances. The odds are better then driving or smoking or skydiving. Lol

Please quote exactly where he said that. I'll wait.

Do you compete professionally? Do you see me giving you shit about you putting superdrol in your body, which is also banned and toxic?

Further, I didn't say I stacked all of them together.. I mentioned a few beta agonists and fat mobilization agents are synergistic... Quote me where I said they should all be stacked together.

About 500 people die from Tylenol every year too so the FDA can suck it.

Thank you!
I'm starting to believe it's members like him who make new members think that the Vets jump all over them for posting their opinions.

 

[TRT]

Anyways, I DO like to use yoh before my DNP or after. When I stacked them I did very small dosages during fasted cardio in the morning. This also included and Insulin protocol I'd use and fat would melt away. Helps return insulin sensitivity quickly.

I don't care what anyone says. I love having to drop weight and going from one extreme to the next in a matter of weeks.

 

[Eman]

This also included and Insulin protocol I'd use and fat would melt away. Helps return insulin sensitivity quickly.

Do you use insulin just for the insulin sensitivity rebound? I don't like the idea of using a lipolytic and anti-lipolytic compound at the same time.

 

[TRT]

@Eman
Lyle McDonald's Stubborn Fat Handbook
Is that the whole name?
I saw a book on eBay or Amazon that was all about DNP and human consumption. I really want that book. $30 for the soft cover.

 

[TRT]

Do you use insulin just for the insulin sensitivity rebound? I don't like the idea of using a lipolytic and anti-lipolytic compound at the same time.

I completely understand what your saying but it allows me to lower blood sugar and forces my body to get it from somewhere. I only use maybe 2-5iu of humalog depending how bad my blood sugar is in the AM. Or I guess you could say how bad I bulked. Lol there are other members here who do the same we just don't like posting about it even though I just did. Ha

 

[Eman]

@Eman
Lyle McDonald's Stubborn Fat Handbook
Is that the whole name?
I saw a book on eBay or Amazon that was all about DNP and human consumption. I really want that book. $30 for the soft cover.

It's called the Stubborn Fat Solution Patch 1.1

I can send you a copy if interested. I may have the DNP one also... I'll look.

 

[TRT]

It's called the Stubborn Fat Solution Patch 1.1

I can send you a copy if interested. I may have the DNP one also... I'll look.

I live reading this shit.

 

[Morefyah]

Eman really said it all. Your putting words in mouth and I never meant safe or that it killed ONLY person. 8 deaths in how long? I'll take my chances. The odds are better then driving or smoking or skydiving. LolThank you!
I'm starting to believe it's members like him who make new members think that the Vets jump all over them for posting their opinions.

Nobody Cares man.
Lol, have at it all you want.

 

[TRT]

Nobody Cares man.
Lol, have at it all you want.

Well apparently someone does. Ha

 

[Morefyah]

Well apparently someone does. Ha

Ha ha!! Go poison yourself all the fuck you want. Merry Xmas!

 

[TRT]

Ha ha!! Go poison yourself all the fuck you want. Merry Xmas!

Aw, thanks buddy. I think I'll do just that.

...ya know. I like you. I don't care what @Eman says about you.

 

[Morefyah]

Aw, thanks buddy. I think I'll do just that.

...ya know. I like you. I don't care what @Eman says about you.

I didn’t mean literally @TRT, I’ve always liked you too. No homo! I’ve got no beef with @Eman. He’s a smart dude and we disagree sometimes. We’ve never cursed or called each other names. He might not like me but I like him. It’s the same with dr Jim. We got into a debate about CBD and it turned out I was right. He won’t talk or reply to me anymore.

For the record I’ve never claimed that superdrol was not poison. I’ve never stood up for SD just because it treated me well will no side effects. I’ve always said that shit poison and I don’t recommend that ANYONE uses it.