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Odie bro point taken For now on I won't say I wish I looked like that. I'm gonna look like that. I'm just gonna keep doing what I'm doing. But you definitely are misunderstanding my mind set. It's seems as you take offense to me complimenting meso bros. I'm not gonna argue my point. Have a good day
I understand both sides of this discussion.
First I must say @OdieM brother you are looking great. You are going beast mode and it shows!!
OK so I just added a personal trainer to my lifting program to continue to the next level. He's an ex military, ex bodybuilder and he busts my ass with pre-exhaustion techniques. I'm so fucking sore right now but it feels great!! My point being that I am continuing to push myself to new limits and @jflo you can do the same. Just make the time. I work full time and I'm in college full time, but I make it work. You can find the time, so like OdieM is saying, don't make any excuse ever or you are only denying yourself what it is you want to achieve. Just another way to look at this. Good luck to all here because we all are looking for the same things. We all want to look like this guy:Or at least I do!!schwarzenegger_arnold_004.jpg
 
Nah we ain't done. Go back and read what you wrote. You clearly said I wish I looked like some of y'all but I'm not a pro and I work.

I was actually just trying to light a fire under your ass and show you what motivation looks like but by all means keep replying about how you ment your statement to be taken.
First of all I meant we are not pros and credit to the guys who look like they do. Including you Odie Ok second you just motivated the fuck out of me. I'm fuming right now cause I know you are fuckng with me. And I will be sure to never compliment anybody else for now on. Cool. I'm done with this back and forth stuff. I would like to move on But I have to say you are an asshole. Talk soon
 
Bro seriously whining Are you serious ? Are you trying to fuck with me? What cause I said I wish Big deal bro get over it. And now I'm making excuses What is your problem ? Yes Odie I'm guilty of wanting to look better. Who doesn't ? Just because I said I wish I looked like this or that. Doesn't mean that's not what I'm doing or trying to do. Wtf Odie Are we done ? Seriously
Not everyone is cut for this & not everyone has the time to spend hours in the gym or the money involved to get it done. I see no problems with wishing to look like a specific person. If it's goal oriented it' good. If you want it bad enough it will happen, just takes time, money, working through pain etc.
 
First of all I meant we are not pros and credit to the guys who look like they do. Including you Odie Ok second you just motivated the fuck out of me. I'm fuming right now cause I know you are fuckng with me. And I will be sure to never compliment anybody else for now on. Cool. I'm done with this back and forth stuff. I would like to move on But I have to say you are an asshole. Talk soon
Lmfao! You're a good dude and this reply made me laugh out loud.

He is cocky dude but the guy has the meat to back it up. It's that attitude that can push you far and beyond. @OdieM i am impressed and also you not on trt. Well done sir!
 
First of all I meant we are not pros and credit to the guys who look like they do. Including you Odie Ok second you just motivated the fuck out of me. I'm fuming right now cause I know you are fuckng with me. And I will be sure to never compliment anybody else for now on. Cool. I'm done with this back and forth stuff. I would like to move on But I have to say you are an asshole. Talk soon

lol as long as you are motivated I did my job. :)

I know I'm an asshole right now bud. How would you feel if your T went from 7312 to 180 ? I'm in my last week of PCT so yeah I'm a little cranky.
 
I understand both sides of this discussion.
First I must say @OdieM brother you are looking great. You are going beast mode and it shows!!
OK so I just added a personal trainer to my lifting program to continue to the next level. He's an ex military, ex bodybuilder and he busts my ass with pre-exhaustion techniques. I'm so fucking sore right now but it feels great!! My point being that I am continuing to push myself to new limits and @jflo you can do the same. Just make the time. I work full time and I'm in college full time, but I make it work. You can find the time, so like OdieM is saying, don't make any excuse ever or you are only denying yourself what it is you want to achieve. Just another way to look at this. Good luck to all here because we all are looking for the same things. We all want to look like this guy:Or at least I do!!View attachment 34172
In short my meso bros are my motivation. Cause we are all in the same boat. I guess maybe my words didn't come out the way I intended for them to. But believe me I know what hard work is and I understand what you guys are saying I'm not arguing that. Thanks for all the input guys I'm tired of arguing can we please move on
 
Yes Odie you did your job and then some My heart rate is still up Next workout today is dedicated to Odie. Peace bro
 
Lmfao! You're a good dude and this reply made me laugh out loud.

He is cocky dude but the guy has the meat to back it up. It's that attitude that can push you far and beyond. @OdieM i am impressed and also you not on trt. Well done sir!
That's what I'm saying I was trying to be respectful because the guy does look like he knows what he is talking about and he is a beast And kudos to u Odie with the low t that can't be easy
 
Yes Odie you did your job and then some My heart rate is still up Next workout today is dedicated to Odie. Peace bro
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Bro don't get mad over the Internet. You should of been here around the time I joined. It was a different place back then. I'm a pussy cat compared to thoses days
 
It's all about how bad you want it and the fact that your saying " I wish I could be like you but I work" is ridiculous and very offensive. We don't need that kinda talk around here.

If I came from this then y'all should be able to surpass me.
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You just have to want it.

I also don't trt and I'm only on half the year which I just started last year. The half the year I'm off my T is around 180. Far below normal.


Not disagreeing with Odie at all completely true, most of us make excuses to why we aren't as big as the next guy. Which is just a simple cop out. Odie you started with superior genetics, you look better then some of us before juice. Granted look at him now it wasn't simply just genetics or juice cause from his pictures that is a total transformation that only comes from pure hard determination. [emoji108][emoji1360][emoji1377] keep it up brother.
 
It's all about how bad you want it and the fact that your saying " I wish I could be like you but I work" is ridiculous and very offensive. We don't need that kinda talk around here.

If I came from this then y'all should be able to surpass me.
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You just have to want it.

I also don't trt and I'm only on half the year which I just started last year. The half the year I'm off my T is around 180. Far below normal.

Well Odie my man. Your a badass brother. Your dedication shows
 
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Bro don't get mad over the Internet. You should of been here around the time I joined. It was a different place back then. I'm a pussy cat compared to thoses days
Hahahaha!! Odie, your killing me with this back and forth. Im gonna kinda miss this side of you when you jump back in the game[emoji6]
 
In short my meso bros are my motivation. Cause we are all in the same boat. I guess maybe my words didn't come out the way I intended for them to. But believe me I know what hard work is and I understand what you guys are saying I'm not arguing that. Thanks for all the input guys I'm tired of arguing can we please move on
If we want to be the 1% who reach our full potential then never use defeating talk or say we can't do something. My trainer texted me yesterday and said I killed it the day before. Said 99% of the world will never know their full potential, but that I'm on my way. Shit feels good to push to a new level because I felt like I was stagnating for a month or two.
Now I have to go shovel 2 feet of snow from this damn blizzard, but I'm ready for it. Good back workout!! Since there's no driving to the gym today.:):(
 
Thanks Rob and show does yours. Your logs and pics have made me push for that extra rep a few times but thats not why I posted my pics. I was just trying to show that a skinny 165 dude can become a 225 dude in as little as 3.5 years with a little motivation.

I know. It's possible for anyone. I went from 135 to 216 at my heaviest. Just gotta put the excuses away do what needs to be done.
 
Hahahaha!! Odie, your killing me with this back and forth. Im gonna kinda miss this side of you when you jump back in the game[emoji6]

Yeah Im gonna miss it to but i wouldn't wish the way I feel right now on anyone. Only the strong minded could keep putting themselves what I'm going through. One of these days I'll get put on TRT and quit all this bullshit but for now I gotta give my sperm a fighting chance so I just come off.
 
Thanks Rob and show does yours. Your logs and pics have made me push for that extra rep a few times but thats not why I posted my pics. I was just trying to show that a skinny 165 dude can become a 225 dude in as little as 3.5 years with a little motivation.
Started at 160 lb and looks like this now. This should be an inspiration to most of us. I train hard ever day I'm in the gym, but could use a kick in the ass once in a while. I wasn't blessed with great genetics, but I know what I need to do to get where I want to be. The only thing I lack is a good workout partner so I'll have to use Oddie as my inspiration for now.
 
Started at 160 lb and looks like this now. This should be an inspiration to most of us. I train hard ever day I'm in the gym, but could use a kick in the ass once in a while. I wasn't blessed with great genetics, but I know what I need to do to get where I want to be. The only thing I lack is a good workout partner so I'll have to use Oddie as my inspiration for now.

In all honesty I got sober back in August of 2011. Thats when I turned to the iron as therapy. I trained with a friend my first 2 years until he went back to the drugs and alcohol. I sure miss him. If one of us wasn't feeling the gym that day the other one motivated them to go. Also training with someone is great because we worked every set to true failure cause we knew we had each others back if we got in a bind. So yeah i credit a lot of my transformation to having a partner when I started off. I sure wish I had someone to train with nowadays.

It also helped that when i met my fiancé she was competing. She's my true motivation
 
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Yeah Im gonna miss it to but i wouldn't wish the way I feel right now on anyone. Only the strong minded could keep putting themselves what I'm going through. One of these days I'll get put on TRT and quit all this bullshit but for now I gotta give my sperm a fighting chance so I just come off.
I hear ya brother, i went through at least 20 over the years and all but two were cold turkey cause before meso i never heard of pct.
But my natty levels only came back to 46 my last time[emoji33] so trt it is for me.
 
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