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[OdieM]

Question: Do your natural test levels take a hit every time you cycle?

Not if you PCT correctly. I mean sure maybe a little. They damn sure take a hit when you first come off. Like Mr.B66 just mentioned, some of us didn't PCT when we first started and our systems never really bounced back.

 

[DedLift]

Thanks @OdieM . We have similar stories and every time I hear it it makes me smile. Drugs tore my life up and iron has helped put it back together. Meso must be my NA meeting. You guys continue to surprise and motivate me as well

 

[Flounder]

@OdieM How come my sobriety date is Oct 15th 2011 yet you are so far beyond me in growth? Actually I never had a workout partner so I've been doing it on my own, but like I said I just picked up a trainer to get me to the next level and I'm loving it. My avi is my pre personal trainer pic so we'll see what I look like in a few months.
Anyways, I love hearing sobriety being achieved with weights!!

 

[Manamana]

In all honesty I got sober back in August of 2011. Thats when I turned to the iron as therapy. I trained with a friend my first 2 years until he went back to the drugs and alcohol. I sure miss him. If one of us wasn't feeling the gym that day the other one motivated them to go. Also training with someone is great because we worked every set to true failure cause we knew we had each others back if we got in a bind. So yeah i credit a lot of my transformation to having a partner when I started off. I sure wish I had someone to train with nowadays.

It also helped that when i met my fiancé she was competing. She's my true motivation

Not to get too personal, but are you worried about fertility just in general or you actually had a test and have a low count?

I do TRT because I had chronically low testosterone for a long time. Dating back over a decade when I tested below 300 in my early 20s. I had a child in 2011, and had absolutely zero problems. Literally one week and my wife was pregnant. I started TRT the year after.

Now that we want another I am certainly concerned. However, I've always used HcG during my TRT. I am going to get tested soon. I was just curious if you had seen a measurable impact and were tested or if this is just a generalized concern.

I know we've all heard stories of guys on gear blasting/cruising for years with no fertility issues. But also plenty of stories of the opposite.

Might just start a thread in the men's health forum and see what people's experiences are.

 

[Sully9999]

In all honesty I got sober back in August of 2011. Thats when I turned to the iron as therapy. I trained with a friend my first 2 years until he went back to the drugs and alcohol. I sure miss him. If one of us wasn't feeling the gym that day the other one motivated them to go. Also training with someone is great because we worked every set to true failure cause we knew we had each others back if we got in a bind. So yeah i credit a lot of my transformation to having a partner when I started off. I sure wish I had someone to train with nowadays.

It also helped that when i met my fiancé she was competing. She's my true motivation

That's mostly how I got started as well, went from a powder cocaine addiction to an addiction to exercise and lifting. My partner didn't have the same issues, but he understood mine and pushed me hard in the gym, never once put me down for being in the piss poor shape I was in. Eventually he blew out his shoulder and never returned, I had surgery on mine and kept going. Good work out partners are hard to come by.

 

[OdieM]

Not to get too personal, but are you worried about fertility just in general or you actually had a test and have a low count?

I do TRT because I had chronically low testosterone for a long time. Dating back over a decade when I tested below 300 in my early 20s. I had a child in 2011, and had absolutely zero problems. Literally one week and my wife was pregnant. I started TRT the year after.

Now that we want another I am certainly concerned. However, I've always used HcG during my TRT. I am going to get tested soon. I was just curious if you had seen a measurable impact and were tested or if this is just a generalized concern.

I know we've all heard stories of guys on gear blasting/cruising for years with no fertility issues. But also plenty of stories of the opposite.

Might just start a thread in the men's health forum and see what people's experiences are.

Many here will tell you that you can have a kiddo while on trt but the truth is it does effect fertility. I've taken my blood work to 3 docs and all 3 said I needed to be put on trt and when i mentioned that i want kids they all said that they wouldn't feel comfortable putting me on it. No I have never got my sperm checked or anything but I'm thinking about going to a fertility clinic and asking for some help. I turn 34 very soon and believe me I definitely should of had kids by now so something may be up.

 

[OdieM]

@OdieM How come my sobriety date is Oct 15th 2011 yet you are so far beyond me in growth? Actually I never had a workout partner so I've been doing it on my own, but like I said I just picked up a trainer to get me to the next level and I'm loving it. My avi is my pre personal trainer pic so we'll see what I look like in a few months.
Anyways, I love hearing sobriety being achieved with weights!!

Damn it flounder we just went over this. You just don't want it. lol Nah I'm telling you me having someone there every day my first 2 years to push me is where I got my good foundation from

 

[OdieM]

Plus like I mention before @Flounder, my fiancé was competing when i met her. That opened up some doors for me. Having someone in the house thats just as motivated is awesome. I wish she was still into it. She hasn't been to the gym since spring

 

[Flounder]

Damn it flounder we just went over this. You just don't want it. lol Nah I'm telling you me having someone there every day my first 2 years to push me is where I got my good foundation from

Yeah in hindsight I should have found someone to lift with. I guess some of my old alcoholic behaviors still hung around, like not accepting anyone's help. Now I realize that kind of behavior only hurts me and no one else.
That's why I finally sucked up my alcoholic pride and found a personal trainer to really kick my ass, and I love it.
Sorry to hear about your fiancee not hitting the gym. If she wants it she'll get back to it. Just lead by example.

 

[Cpt999]

Not to get too personal, but are you worried about fertility just in general or you actually had a test and have a low count?

I do TRT because I had chronically low testosterone for a long time. Dating back over a decade when I tested below 300 in my early 20s. I had a child in 2011, and had absolutely zero problems. Literally one week and my wife was pregnant. I started TRT the year after.

Now that we want another I am certainly concerned. However, I've always used HcG during my TRT. I am going to get tested soon. I was just curious if you had seen a measurable impact and were tested or if this is just a generalized concern.

I know we've all heard stories of guys on gear blasting/cruising for years with no fertility issues. But also plenty of stories of the opposite.

Might just start a thread in the men's health forum and see what people's experiences are.

I was on a cycle of just test at 800mg a week for 15 weeks, cruised 250 for 6 weeks then did prop and tren for another 12 and never touched hcg. My nuts were none existent and the doc told my girl that with the current shape her ovaries were in it would be impossible to get pregnant........... I'm shootin puffs of smoke at this point and still got a little bundle of joy.

 

[Frank the tank 456]

Seems to be working well for you. Looking lean and solid . I'm 4 weeks in on a nine week cut using his test e and tren ace. Loving result so far. Keep up the good work!!

Thank you bro! I'm bulking up rite now. I'm running 2 19 nors.
NPP 200mg mwf
Tren A 50mg ED
Test cyp 500mg Monday/Thursday
1mg Adex EOD

No issues with gyno or prolactin.
No deca dick, major tren dick!!

 

[Frank the tank 456]

Is it just me or look dry too, esp for doing NPP! Looking kill mode Frank!

Ya man, my trainer tells me the same. I'm bulking rite now. I'm running 1000mg test a week too. Training is more power now. I'm putting up some great numbers. I kinda lost interest in competing in classic physique. Once your deadlift hits 550lb and I weigh only 190, I really think it would be more fun in a power comp. great trainer too!!!

 

[Sabian]

Thank you bro! I'm bulking up rite now. I'm running 2 19 nors.
NPP 200mg mwf
Tren A 50mg ED
Test cyp 500mg Monday/Thursday
1mg Adex EOD

No issues with gyno or prolactin.
No deca dick, major tren dick!!

Haven't tried npp yet but I have some stocked up for next bulk. Guys seem to like results from it. I'm definitley a big fan of tren ace. I love the strengh that comes with it. I've been on strict cal deficit for several weeks now and strengh is still going up. Other than some insomnia no major sides.

 

[Mechanics]

I can not related to you guys abt not being able to have kids . Because I have 4 of them and we both got fixed . But I can tell you that a little hope and a lot of prayers (I am not a holy roller either just what we do in the south) goes alot way. Now I relate to @OdieM I started at 155-165 (can't remember my exact ) just wasn't satisfied. And trained and trained while in military and yes I got stronger and a better look . But not much bigger mainly cause I couldn't eat right while active. Once my number was called i had to leave . I then got really serious . And shit started to happen . And I to trained by my self . Until I became friends with a trainer and gear head. And he has helped me in ways that I never knew could happen. And he constantly tells me I help him . We have became really good friends and train at 10 am every day except Sunday ( which my diet cheat day and I have a note book full of shit I want to eat and that's tomorrow yessssss ) and I am sitting at 200 . And my initial goal was 205 . But I will be hitting that really soon . So I have now bumped it up to 225 at 10% bf. And my genetics sux by the way . At least my opinion. But keep your head up and keep trying for those kids @OdieM and good things will happen . @Flounder I can relate a trainer / partner makes a world of difference

 

[Sully9999]

Thank you bro! I'm bulking up rite now. I'm running 2 19 nors.
NPP 200mg mwf
Tren A 50mg ED
Test cyp 500mg Monday/Thursday
1mg Adex EOD

No issues with gyno or prolactin.
No deca dick, major tren dick!!

My apologies but isn't Tren dick & Deca dick one in the same ? I've never had issues with deca dick even at higher doses. I really don't know as much as I should about Tren being that I'm running it.

 

[Frank the tank 456]

My apologies but isn't Tren dick & Deca dick one in the same ? I've never had issues with deca dick even at higher doses. I really don't know as much as I should about Tren being that I'm running it.

I've had a lot of guys tell my they can't get an errection while running tren. Tren keeps me rocked up. It can go either way I suppose. Trust and believe I have 24k viagra on hand at all times just in case. Tren keeps me rocked up, but almost impossible to climax. So my girl is getting off 3-4 times. Most of the time I just gotta quit cuz I'm tired. Then I just beat on it for a few minutes and BOOM!!!! Climax of fury and doom!!! I also noticed running test this high my loads are much bigger.

 

[Mechanics]

Correct me if I am wrong. But deca dick is limp dick
Tren dick you have a hard on most of the day lol.
At least my experiences have proven this

 

[Mechanics]

I've had a lot of guys tell my they can't get an errection while running tren. Tren keeps me rocked up. It can go either way I suppose. Trust and believe I have 24k viagra on hand at all times just in case. Tren keeps me rocked up, but almost impossible to climax. So my girl is getting off 3-4 times. Most of the time I just gotta quit cuz I'm tired. Then I just beat on it for a few minutes and BOOM!!!! Climax of fury and doom!!! I also noticed running test this high my loads are much bigger.

Glad I ain't the only one who has trouble unloading one

 

[Frank the tank 456]

Haven't tried npp yet but I have some stocked up for next bulk. Guys seem to like results from it. I'm definitley a big fan of tren ace. I love the strengh that comes with it. I've been on strict cal deficit for several weeks now and strengh is still going up. Other than some insomnia no major sides.

My last 4 weeks is like to try that. My main issue is diet. Like I said, I'm bout that bulk life. However, id like to be in a weight class "powerlifting " I could really be a competitor in. I'm gonna start a thread and get some opinions. Keep up the good work. And you will like the npp by the way.

 

[Frank the tank 456]

Glad I ain't the only one who has trouble unloading one

By the end of the session my dick is rocked up and beet on, it's like purple and red. Kinda hurts