24k Pharma US Domestic Source

[GrandChamp]

Maybe not, but if I see $100 min from somewhere and then I see $300 min that might make a difference for some. maybe I was only planning on spending $200, that might make someone search somewhere else. Maybe not... but that's why I brought up private.

What you are saying is that by raising the minimum it might send some consumers to another source who only planned to spend $200 at that particular time. It seems to me this is the same as saying the volume of orders will be reduced by taking this action. This might not be the long term solution, who knows, but it does seem like a reasonable starting point. If this solution does not work it seems as though it could be easily reversed and other options explored.

 

[penche]

Im starting to think @GrandChamp is a smart business man lol.

I say private and or by referral only. Hell, POTG and others open and close all time. Some others are by referral only.

Close the doors when the flood gets out of control. Open them when the storm calms.

 

[Oak707]

I agree with the writer but 24 didn't come to meso as a private ugl. He came here went public, did everything possible to please the members here with taken Thier suggestions to heart, asking for their opinions, providing good customer service (maybe is mistep here or there) but over all good.
Has consistently good bloodwork on his product. So I don't think it's a private label vs public lab is good argument. He's has already established that he is good or he wouldn't have lasted over a year here like he has. I don't suspect that he will change if he goes private with orders and costomers. I could be wrong. All good things come to an end, but I don't believe going private would be the cause of it. Just my 2 pennies for what they're worth and probably not worth much...lol.

Again I only read the opening post to that thread.

 

[GrandChamp]

There is an interesting thread (sticky) here in the underground about the cons of going private, it's an interesting read if nothing else.

My two cents on the idea of going private. First, how is the "list" of approved customers maintained? This seems to be a big issue for most of us consumers who do not wish for our sensitive information to be kept hanging around. Second, and related to the first point, I believe 24 to be a man of his word when he says he does not keep customer information past the point orders are either received, or a reasonable time has passed. Having said that, how does the "list" for going private get generated? First come, first serve?

To me I read 24's statement (and this is just how i read it) as him saying he is basically at the point of being uncomfortable with the current level of business. So, to me, if today he decided to go private and somehow (play along) could have all current customers put on a "private list" to me this seems like volume would stay at it's current level indefinitely. If you chose to REDUCE the volume, you would then be reducing customers-so who makes the cut in that scenario?

To my minds eye it would be easier to throttle the level of orders based off of the price point. To make this point you can take it to the extreme. Imagine tonight at midnight the minimum being raised to $1,000. Overnight the volume of this business would be slashed. Now, imagine the minimum is raised by $50. Not much would change. The same goes for prices of the products. To me at least, this seems like a legitimate way to throttle the volume.

Just my two cents, for what it's worth.

 

[Gramps]

If you really want to regulate your business, copy the techniques of some of the scumbags like Hammer, Phurious, and such. THAT will get your customer base to a lower level!

As for keeping a database, in the past I requested to be placed on a mailer list for some items and while we both agreed to this, I never saw a single email. Was this by intent, or does it back up the "we don't keep records" statement? To counter this, there's the Valk thread digging up the dead (past customers) to shill the fuck out of the board. He's supposedly a new rep? And he has a database of all these previous V customers?? Was this list passed around, sold, or ?

"Do ya feel lucky, Punk?"

 

[Gobuckeyes0122]

I think raising the min. Would help with the over all amount of orders. People will still order, they will just be bigger orders bc they will have to reach the new min. But the frequency in which they order should be reduced then. Which would actually hurt me bc I don't think I've ever placed an order with anyone over $200. But I understand why it would need to happen. I'm also for going private if that's the route, no idea how to make that work tho lol.

 

[CompoundLifts31]

Wait...Brutus and Sworder disappeared at the same time...

I think I figured it out...Brutus murdered Sworder and is now hiding out at OdieM's house and posting on Odie's account. Every once in awhile he will post on his account to throw off LE. That's why he posted about steroids being illegal. But they are really planning on brewing the most fire tren ever and taking over the world.

Nah, he's probably just sick of the same old stupid shit being posted. He's probably just laying back and continuing to be a good dad.

Sworder was super annoying and incorrect with everything he said; however, his being incorrect did eventually lead to uncovering one UGL that started another UGL and had scammed many people, including his rep (how the fuck could you fuck your rep who's working for you ?!?!?!? Really shitty)

That's all I remember of Sworder. Not defending him at all, but some good did come from his false accusations...

 

[CompoundLifts31]

Probably more Nsync.

Just saw Joey at my bar the other night, not that I'm a fan... LoL

 

[SwoleMcCole]

Good ideas, but let me offer a few counterpoints. If we, say, put a cap at 50 orders a week, it would be 50 orders filled in the beginning of the week and then no orders could be placed end of the week/weekend. This is not ideal because we want to space out our shipments.

I would also like to stay away from posting publicly "We have "X" orders left before cap is reached". Not only does this give away volume information, but also could be misconstrued as a marketing ploy to get in more orders.

Again, I appreciate your suggestions, I am merely playing devil's advocate so we can tackle this dilemma from all angles.

A possible option would be to limit the number of orders per person per month, that way, it would encourage people to plan out their orders more carefully and in advance so that they are not sending in muliple orders in a short time span and in turn, increasing your shipping volume as well as volume of emails and payments coming in.

 

[SwoleMcCole]

Good product makes for good business.

with that said, like in any business venture, if you feel you are expanding too rapidly, slow it down. Your idea of implementing limitations is good. dont necessarily limit the volume of customers, but perhaps their order allowance per week / month, etc.

Another idea is to take, say, weekends off to 'close the doors' and not take any orders for those 2 days. Re-up and finish sending out the week's orders. (I did that when i ran an ebay business that got rather large)

being an illegal business, you know that expansion = greater risk with LE and, if you aren't ready, can destroy your reputation by not being able to handle the volume. Do what you have to do in order to stay under the radar.


I believe your best bet is what i mentioned above: Only take orders on predetermined days. It well lessen volume and allow you to play catch up.

Very good idea

 

[GrandChamp]

A possible option would be to limit the number of orders per person per month, that way, it would encourage people to plan out their orders more carefully and in advance so that they are not sending in muliple orders in a short time span and in turn, increasing your shipping volume as well as volume of emails and payments coming in.

Just to play devil's advocate. This sounds good in theory, but how does it play out in reality as far as decreasing order volume while maintaining the policy of not keeping sensitive customer information? If you monitor the "once a month" policy simply by email addresses who is to stop customers from using a series of burner email addresses to place orders. The next step is to maintain delivery addresses to monitor orders which would not be well received by most of us. Furthermore, those with PO Boxes still could be placing two orders per month in theory.

As you think through all of the factors I would be skeptical how much you would actually decrease order volume with this approach. Just playing devils advocate.

 

[quesawea]

been off the forums a while.

I just wanted to know if 24k is still here, taking orders?

pls dont rage at me bros D:

thanks

 

[DedLift]

Something to consider...this is the time of year when many are getting that infusion of $ called income tax refunds. Also, pharmacom is closed beginning February 1st so there will be a LOT of guys looking elsewhere for that timeframe. Put the two together and those floodgates are going to be ripped apart...

 

[Flaming Dragon]

been off the forums a while.

I just wanted to know if 24k is still here, taking orders?

pls dont rage at me bros D:

thanks

No he's not..



One less customer..You're welcome!

 

[Reaent]

No he's not..



One less customer..You're welcome!

LOL

 

[Wunderpus]

Going private only removes a ton of accountability for 24K. People don't discuss private sources the way they do public, doesn't end well for us oftentimes.

You can limit the volume by only producing X amount of each product per month/week/whatever. When it's gone, it's gone... Until the next batch.

 

[SwoleMcCole]

Just to play devil's advocate. This sounds good in theory, but how does it play out in reality as far as decreasing order volume while maintaining the policy of not keeping sensitive customer information? If you monitor the "once a month" policy simply by email addresses who is to stop customers from using a series of burner email addresses to place orders. The next step is to maintain delivery addresses to monitor orders which would not be well received by most of us. Furthermore, those with PO Boxes still could be placing two orders per month in theory.

As you think through all of the factors I would be skeptical how much you would actually decrease order volume with this approach. Just playing devils advocate.

That is a good point. Im not sure of his current volume but it migjt be possible to remember if he's already shipped to the same address recently without records but the p.o. Box point is definitey a good one. Im sure if there were ways to get around a policy like that, we would find it haha

 

[GrandChamp]

You can limit the volume by only producing X amount of each product per month/week/whatever. When it's gone, it's gone... Until the next batch.

I like this idea, but I would also wonder if this would decrease overall order volume- or would it create a situation where orders are heavier than normal at the beginning of the week/month and very low at the end of the week/month thereby averaging out to the same volume of orders, just dispersed differently. I have no idea if that is a realistic view of that or not, just a thought.

 

[YoBigdaddy]

I say keep it simple and raise the minimum, or you will end up like poor Mass Builder Pharm, his stuff is good but now he got too many customers to handle since he don't have minimum. He is missing shipping, unanswered emails, etc and not cause he don't care but cause he can't handle so much volume.

 

[ErikR]

Raise the minimum , shut the doors to new customers and when ready only go by referal. Also stay accountable on the board if any issues arise. Keep the board silent unless there are any issues.