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Your friend isn't very friendly in that he has given you a substance of which you seem to have no understanding of its proper use. You also seem to have a poor grasp on nutrition and exercise science in general. I strongly suggest you research and research some more about nutrition and exercise science , then once you think you know enough research some more. Then after you got that down start researching gear, then once you think you are ready for your first pin, research how to go about getting it for a few months.

Not being a dick but I don't think, given your current level of understanding of any of the matters involved with gear use and exercise etc, that you will see the "gains you need".


No, I dont take it as you being a dick at all.

I looked for a good source of info because I feel most the gym rat people I know have never taken the time to research anything.

About gear, I admit, I have no grasp. Nutrition a pretty firm grasp. Exercise... Well not as much as most of you, but a learning well.
 
How were the results as far as size/strength? I'm debating between a dbol or anadrol kickstart
Strength has been great, size was solid as well but I'm also using Cyp and Deca in conjunction. As of today after 4 weeks I'm up 12lbs and have noticeably lost body fat. I actually just placed another order with him with dbol and was going to use the 2 together to add something new in. I'll be sure to try and keep posting how its going but so far I cant say enough about the product; its just getting difficult placing orders lately.
 
My situation is a little different, I was like 450lb, Had weight loss surgery, dropped to 200, started trying to bulk up and not lose muscle, after all the goal is health and good looks. Im very protien deficient because of the surgery, I try to get close to 200g of protein a day just to bulk up. I need 100 just to maintain.

The dbol has probably helped me not lose muscle mass, but im trying to find a better stack that will help me get the gains I need.

Ill read more through these forums, its seems alot of other forums are way less legit, pedaling herbal supplements that are fake gear.

Try 25mg anadrol and 25mg dbol, u will blow up
 
Can anyone give a noob to the game some simple advice on a few items.

Links or directions to the best forum are welcome.

Whats a good starting stack for fat cutting/bulking?

A buddy helped me with some dbol orals, and I have noticed strength gains, and definition, but not size.

Where can I go to learn to decipher the crazy code you guys all speak in.

Terms like "Crashed vial"

Its like another language in here.
I was pretty un educated about SAS when I got here a few years ago myself. I thought the same things you are probably thinking coming here. As others have stated read bud, and then read more.
 
You've gained no size from Dbol?.....

As others have suggested, google is your friend, the search function is your friend. Asking specific questions about a specific product or this supplier in this thread is what it's for. There's literally thousands upon thousands of threads here on any given subject, just take time and read.
Sounds like he was trying to run an oral only cycle....
 
Can anyone give a noob to the game some simple advice on a few items.

Links or directions to the best forum are welcome.

Whats a good starting stack for fat cutting/bulking?

A buddy helped me with some dbol orals, and I have noticed strength gains, and definition, but not size.

Where can I go to learn to decipher the crazy code you guys all speak in.

Terms like "Crashed vial"

Its like another language in here.
If you research like we all did you can answer you own question you questions are not stupid but you clearly need to research as they are questions you should know before you join a board like this
 
DMZ will f#ck you up bro,stay away from prohormones,before i started real gear i was running DMZ 3.0 and was put in the hospital for 3 weeks from high blood pressure and liver failure
DMZ 3.0 jacked my blood pressure through the fucking roof and my piss stayed pretty foamy.
 
I'll give an update. I'm on the tren batch what was 0428. The one that was supposedly not right. I've been on it 2 weeks. 1cc every other day. 400 week of his tren and 300 week prop getting ready for my show. I had crazy night sweats. Woke up around 1am just covered in sweat. Vascular as well. Just my update. No shill, not looking for free gear ha. Just my comments on how it's been going for me. I posted pics in mesos biggest member thread for those who want to see the results so far
Looken good bro...
 
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