MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
24k Pharma US Domestic Source
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Pomacanthidae
New Member
Just when a guy feels safe, the lab starts talking about going low key and staying off the boards etc. I can see this ending with
and money wasted
and money wasted
ackrug
Member
Anyone else having a problem with his shit crashing all the time? I mean I know it's an easy fix but several of my orders will have one or two vials I can't seam to make for longer than a few days. Especially the TNE shit looks like body scrub
tacevedo
New Member
What's up with the quality? Seems like everyone has been having problems with their gear crashing.
Pomacanthidae
New Member
2-3% BA and 15-20% BB. Im guessing its not holding well.
boodecarlo
Member
Ok I bite my tongue when it comes to the underground because it drives me fucking batshit crazy. That being said I'll never understand people talking shit on a source they've never used. Please clear it up for me because it's like saying you hate the way a BMW drives without ever sitting in the car. All you're doing is making it harder for people who have legit questions to get answers. Feel free to enlighten me.
And there in lies the problem with everyone putting all their eggs in the 8-10x blood work basket as a measure of quality. It is all anyone cares about, and people can't understand bloodwork that comes back at 4-6x, when pharma cyp straight from the pharmacy will come back 4-6x for MANY people(sure there are some who test higher, or if you are on HCG you will test higher, but many come back in those ranges)
It forces sources to overdose gear, to provide good blood work numbers for the lynch mob, and then it is more prone to crashing. It isn't a "quality" issue, it is a concentration issue. The only way around this is using more/different solvent like a small amount of EO, etc. Which is another issue in itself.
There is a reason why pharma cyp is dosed at 200mg, and even then still does crash. 2 pages back the cyp was tested at 222mg/ml, so of course it is more prone to crashing, even more so if it gets a little chilly.
jackthegripper2
Member
Just heat it up brother. As long as the stuff is legit let's not load this thread with unnecessary stuff.
ackrug
Member
How do I have cyp dosed at 300 that has never crashed on any order from a different source? It's all related to the brewer! Sense I've been using the guy his TNE has never held for longer than a couple days. I don't put my eggs in any basket. 24 gave me good results, and decent gear. It's just a huge pain in the ass to have to fire up the over every day I need to pin.
ackrug
Member
I have several times. This isn't unnecessary, I feel as though the quality of this product has gone downhill and I'm just wanting to see if anybody else has experienced the same thing. That's what these threads are for, that's what theyve always been for that's what meso is about. Harm reduction.
In terms of Cyp it has little to do with the brewer and more to do with actual concentration, and amount/type of solvents used. This is not rocket science. There is no voodoo magic. It is a pretty standard formula.
That said, It is not uncommon for labs to put in a small amount of EO(or other solvent) without mentioning it, in order to limit, or totally prevent crashing. It really doesn't take much EO, and it generally wont crash. And it is not uncommon for things to not meet label claims. Soooo. Do you want cyp that might crash from time to time, or do you want extra solvent/chemicals?
TNE is extremely prone to crashing, hence why you need to use super solvents(guaiacol/eo) to hold it. This, I can say, is more brewer related, as it isn't a standard BA/BB mixture. There is more trial and error, and actually takes some effort to come up with a level of solvent in order to hold it. Some labs just throw mostly guaiacol and it will hold it no problem, but not ideal for PIP, or health..lol 24k obviously sucks at making TNE. Maybe people should avoid that product all together..lol
legendary
Well-known Member
On trt 150mg weekly I'm at like 850ish on bloods. So I know 10x rule does not apply for all.
walmart has heating pads on the shelf for $10 completely worth it, no need for the oven!
even good enough for brewing when avoiding using direct heat a la oven/burner
ackrug
Member
I have one of those same heating pads. Sadly it does not do the job.
YoBigdaddy
Member
Get better one
ackrug
Member
I have one of those same heating pads. Sadly it does not do the job.
20-30 secs with hairdryer worked for me.
ackrug
Member
Guys I'm not looking for a solution to uncrash gear. Those solutions are a Google search away to any numb nut with a computer. although I thank you for your help it is not needed. I'm simply asking if anyone else is experiencing this as a regular thing.
Also another question:
Does exposing the compounds to such dramatic temps over and over affect the quality of the gear?
Also another question:
Does exposing the compounds to such dramatic temps over and over affect the quality of the gear?
I've only had 3 test vials crashes when I opened package. Indeed I warmed up with hairdryer, I left in box under my bed and it was fine ever since.
I don't know the answer to your second question.
jackthegripper2
Member
IDK for me personally as long as my bloods are coming back where I want them to be I dont mind having to heat my vials up every once in a while.
