27 yr old natural BB considering first cycle.

AustinPowers

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Stats:
Country: Canada
Sex: male
Age: 27
Height: 6' 2"
Weight: 190 lbs
BF: 20%

I should start by saying that I typically have a much lower bf% (between 12 and 16%) but ever since my recent health problems I've had to switch from treadmill to excercise bike and greatly reduce my amount of cardio overall. I can still do most of my standard exercises but I've had to quit my favorite one of all, Squats!
Absolutely unacceptable. There's still the quad extender available to me which is a blessing, but something must be done.
Over the last 9 months I have developed chronic epididymitis which is (in short) a painful swelling in the testicles and the veins that carry your semen. My GP has put me through 4 rounds of different antibiotic medications to no effect. She has referred me to a urologist but I've been waiting for more than a month just to get a call to book the appointment! The urologist will probably say that we should do a round of steroidal injections to atrpohy my testicles and reduce the swelling and other symptoms. He might also suggest surgery but I would reject that as a first option unless he made a VERY convincing case (PS about 1 in 10 people who undergoe this surgery continue to suffer from chronic-epididymitis).
Here in Canada we have a notoriously slow medical system, and my GP agrees that rather than wait possibly several more months just to consult with the urologist, I should privately pursue my own healthcare while keeping her and my eventual urologist informed of all my doings.
When I first got seriously into lifting weights I thought I would never do steroids. Then a couple years passed, I continued to research steroids and the endocrine system in general and I eventually changed my opinion. I would continue to lift until I felt I had reached my maximum natural potential then maintain that until my natural test levels began to drop noticeably in my 30's and 40's. Fate, however, had other plans and you know the rest. One thing I am extremely proud of however is my transformation from 130lbs to 190lbs in 2 and 1/2 years with nothing but sheer will and a fuckload of oats.
I can say that I don't take this decision lightly AT ALL, I'm not fond of needles and I don't enjoy the thought of being committed to injections for the rest of my life and all the extra blood work, potential side-effects etc;
With the confirmation from my GP that my test levels are indeed below normal for someone my age with healthy habits (302 nanograms per decilitre) I have decided to try a cycle of testosterone. My questions are these:
- Can I shoot in the glutes exclusively?
I really would prefer not to inject anywhere else.
- Cypionate or Enthanate or both?
- 500, 800, 1000MG per week? Less to start with on my first cycle I'm guessing..
- Nolvadex and Arimadex for on cycle and pct? From what I've read these two should carry me through most of my troubles.
I might honestly blast and cruise in low doses for the rest of my life if it keeps my testicles atrophied. My wife and I already have two kids so I'm not too concerned about fertility, just the grind of being beholden to a hormone bottle for my health and happiness. Regardless I want to start with a simple cycle and find out two things:

A. Does the epididymitis improve with the use of steroidal injections?
B. Does the epididymitis return after going off-cycle?

That's it for my long-winded story, if anyone has a shared experience or advice then it's most welcome. I'm new to this game and feel a little overwhelmed by how much there is to know now that I'm really considering doing steroids for the first time.
If you read this far then thank you!
-Austin
BC, Canada
 
Recommend not saying your name and location at the end of every message on a illegal substance forum. Also get a different GP any GP telling you to pursue your own healthcare doesn't sound good to me.

Hey @Dr JIM Can you set this man straight?
 
I had epididyemis once from raw dogin some skank bitch .. painful stuff.. as for starting juice I think you have enough ball problems get this fixed first my guy
 
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Idk about the epididymitis but if you're new to steroids id just recommend 500 mg a week and see how the body reacts... Id pin glutes and delts, but thats just me.... You could probably just do glutes with 2x a week pins, but you might get pretty sore + scar tissue... As for the ai... I usually just keep it around if i see any estrogen related side effects, but bloodwork will tell you all you need to know
 
How old are you? You stated 27 in your introduction but then you talk about lifting through your 30s and 40s?
He was talking about his plan for the future going into his 30's and 40's. He is 27, like his title says.

OP. Did you run an STD panel with your general practitioner? Ive had it once and it was just a random bacterial infection. Sometimes with a new partner you can get some irritation....I was put on antibiotics and it cleared. How long have you had it, sometimes it clears on its own....also, shrinking your testes wont do much to alliviate the inflamation since it is the tube that goes to your testes. Not the testes them selves that is the actual problem. Did you take any anti-inflamatory (nsaid's) medications with the antibiotics?
 
He was talking about his plan for the future going into his 30's and 40's. He is 27, like his title says.

OP. Did you run an STD panel with your general practitioner? Ive had it once and it was just a random bacterial infection. Sometimes with a new paetner you can get some irritation....I was put on antibiotics and it cleared. How long have you had it, sometimes it clears on its own....also, shrink your testes wont do much to alliviate the inflamation I wouldnt think since it is the tube that goes to your testes. Not the testes them selves that is the actual problem. Did you take any anti-inflamatory (nsaid's) medications with the antibiotics?
I see, I don't why the hell I read it the way I did lol
 
I think your GP is probably referring to you visting a license testosterone clinic thst prescribed legal Test. I highly doubt she wants you to self inject test from UGL!

But if you can get legiit gear aka pharmaceutical then 300-500mg per week of test E or C will cause your testicle to shut down and start looking like raisins! You can pin glute without issues! Good luck!
 
Dude, you are not a BB. At 20% and 190 six foot-something, you have very little lean mass.

You are maybe a wanna-be BB, but you gotta learn how to crawl before you can walk - get your diet and training dialled in before you look at juice. Fertility is just one of those issues you'll be facing if you get on the oil too early in your lifting career.
 
A little clarification:
- Yes I've had an std panel but I'm clean. It's likely due to multiple testicle injuries (nutters) I incured while skateboarding. I used to board every day for nearly ten years.
- I'm 27 years of age.
- No one is going to arrest you in Canada for talking about steroids on the Internet. That's crazy talk.
- I've consulted with a bio-identical hormone replacement specialist already and it's too expensive for me.
- My GP is cool so it's not going to be a problem getting her to do my bloodwork and keep me on the right track.
- I'll post some body pics soon for all the haters. Don't worry I'll blur my face so no government agents are tempted to rapell in through the fucking skylight and hogtie my ass.
 
A little clarification:
- Yes I've had an std panel but I'm clean. It's likely due to multiple testicle injuries (nutters) I incured while skateboarding. I used to board every day for nearly ten years.
- I'm 27 years of age.
- No one is going to arrest you in Canada for talking about steroids on the Internet. That's crazy talk.
- I've consulted with a bio-identical hormone replacement specialist already and it's too expensive for me.
- My GP is cool so it's not going to be a problem getting her to do my bloodwork and keep me on the right track.
- I'll post some body pics soon for all the haters. Don't worry I'll blur my face so no government agents are tempted to rapell in through the fucking skylight and hogtie my ass.
As much as your sarcastic ass tone might be fun for you in your arrogant mind it literally takes no effort to not type incriminating things. What if they don't want you but instead a doctor that bends rules? And also I'm well aware of all the laws in Canada and just cause it's unlucky doesn't mean it won't happen. Now it seems like you are hell bent on making a poor choice with haste so why the fuck are you hear if you won't listen to guys more experienced and more knowledgeable on the subject.

Also if this is a result of getting nutted then why the hell would testicular atrophy help? It's not like it reduces swelling atrophy isn't something you should aim for. Also your stats aren't of someone that should start steroids for gym related purposes either. Like previously stated figure out your diet and training first and your excuse of not being able to use the treadmill is a bullshit one for getting fat you don't need cardio to maintain leanness you need discipline and proper dieting
 
One more thing:
I agree that professional medical help is the way to go. But I'm in pain every day and have been for nearly 9 months now. Now my GP is saying that I may very well have to wait another 1 - 3 months for consultation with a urologist. And as much as a YEAR for treatment! So yes she is supportive of me trying a cycle to get some results.
Thanks for the good advice too guys, I'm here to learn!
 
Here in Canada we have a notoriously slow medical system, and my GP agrees that rather than wait possibly several more months just to consult with the urologist, I should privately pursue my own healthcare
Here in the US you would have No healthcare. Fucking Canadians bitching about healthcare. I have had 4 good friends in the last 3 years die because they had NO HEALTHCARE. Bitch somewhere esle.

There are a couple members here qualified to answer your questions. I don't see them here and I don't expect to.

Figure it out for yourself. If they keep you alive count yourself lucky. You take it from there you sniveling twat.
 
Here's a suggestion, I'm no pro but I have learned the basics to make this a safe and beneficial experience. Take 6 months to dial in your diet (and READ READ READ) so that you know precisely what your maintenance calories are, and learn what happens when you add 300 calories or eat 300 less calories per day. Commit to a strict and clean diet, and SEE AND TRACK the results from a caloric deficit and a caloric surplus, and track your macros on a daily basis for a month straight. Treat this one month project like you want to ace it because it is your body, your health and your future you're tampering with.

Then, use what you learned in those 30 days to get down to about 13-14% body fat. That would be a good foundation to start thinking about using aas. During that month you will learn about discipline and dial in your workout split and diet which will help you get ready to start your cycle. No offense man but it doesn't appear you're quite ready yet, which is totally okay because there's plenty of time. What you don't wanna do is rush into this and end up regretting it and having a bad experience that either changes your body in a permanent and negative way, or turns you off to the whole thing altogether.

Last but not least, swallow that pride and try to humble yourself because there are some truly helpful and great men on this site who go out of their way to help total strangers, and having a sarcastic or immature attitude is the fastest way to be OFF their list of guys to help out. And believe me when I tell you, around here there are quite a few guys who have TONS of useful and life saving knowledge to offer that can save you from wasted money and even worse, a wrecked HPTA or take your pick of the many other side effects this lifestyle has. So be open minded to the best of your ability and realize that we just wanna help.
 
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