500mg/wk Sust necessary?

Alphamale23

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is 250/wk for 10 weeks along with winstrol the last 4-6 weeks ok for a second cycle? I have been told that i really need 500mg or Sust a week
 
you need to run sust at 250mg EOD for a good cycle dont believe that crap u read on profiles that just 250mg of sust a week will give some kind of miracle gains, i would go with at least 750mg a week min., say mon,wed and fri.
 
I agree - you wont see much with 250 mgs of sus per week - I also like 750 or even 1 gm per week injected eod
 
Alphamale23 said:
is 250/wk for 10 weeks along with winstrol the last 4-6 weeks ok for a second cycle? I have been told that i really need 500mg or Sust a week
500 no good go shots mon-wed-fri-sun tue-thur etc; you get the point,
 
More is usually better but up to a certain point. I gained almost 20 lbs on my first cycle of sust at 250mg week. so yes it can be good if you work it right/
 
Alphamale23 said:
is 250/wk for 10 weeks along with winstrol the last 4-6 weeks ok for a second cycle? I have been told that i really need 500mg or Sust a week


Personally I believe what you have proposed is adequate for a second cycle. What most of these guys are forgetting is that they have been using for along time and are experienced users.

Don't run before you can walk bro. Build it up steadily, that's my advice.

Good luck with what you decide.
 
cathex said:
Personally I believe what you have proposed is adequate for a second cycle. What most of these guys are forgetting is that they have been using for along time and are experienced users.

Don't run before you can walk bro. Build it up steadily, that's my advice.

Good luck with what you decide.
What most of these guys are forgetting????? They are'nt forgetting the fact that if you don't inject EOD then you're NOT getting the benefits of the short esters and you'd be a hell of a lot better off just injecting 250mg of cyp or enant a week than wasteing good sust. Sust..or actually I prefer omnas (same except omnas or dosed higher than label claims) should be injected at least EOD.
 
250n mgs a week sust worked for me and thats just one shot a week. So try it. if it dosent work up it to 500 next time.
 
Southern Juice hit it right on the money, don't pay the extra for Sust if your not going to take advantage of the short esters. Sure, you could make decent gains injecting once a week, but for the same amount of gear you'll benifit much more if you inject eod. Heres a note on quantity/duration: Your body makes an equivelent of something like 150-200mgs a week, so while your natural production is in full swing, you'll enjoy the benifits of 450mgs/week, once that drops out you'll only be supplementing 50-100mgs/week. I know I'm only a "junior" but I'm sure some "seniors" out there will agree.
 
Duckhombre said:
Southern Juice hit it right on the money, don't pay the extra for Sust if your not going to take advantage of the short esters. Sure, you could make decent gains injecting once a week, but for the same amount of gear you'll benifit much more if you inject eod. Heres a note on quantity/duration: Your body makes an equivelent of something like 150-200mgs a week, so while your natural production is in full swing, you'll enjoy the benifits of 450mgs/week, once that drops out you'll only be supplementing 50-100mgs/week. I know I'm only a "junior" but I'm sure some "seniors" out there will agree.

Do a search on google my friend. Your body doesn't make anything close to 150-200mgs a week.
 
GDSGFT said:
Do a search on google my friend. Your body doesn't make anything close to 150-200mgs a week.
More like 70 if I'm not mistaken however....250mg q week of cyp or enant is alot better than 250mg sust was my point.
 
thanks for the great info. so ur saying i should inject about 100mg EOD?
by the way, not to contradict anyone but why is everyone saying i wont make gains with sust as much as enanthate? everywhere i read for first time sust cycles at 250/wk people are gaining tons of muscle. but would 100 EOD or 200-250 twice weekly be better
 
Alpha, to say that a person will get better gains off of sust. as opposed to enanthate is obsurd. Test is test bro and 1000mgs. of enan shot 2x/wk. will yield the same results as 1000mgs. of sust. when shot EOD. For a 2nd cycle I'd up the test to 500mgs (whichever ester you choose) and throw in an anabolic like eq or deca @ 400mgs.

-wolfman
 
wolfman said:
Alpha, to say that a person will get better gains off of sust. as opposed to enanthate is obsurd. Test is test bro and 1000mgs. of enan shot 2x/wk. will yield the same results as 1000mgs. of sust. when shot EOD. For a 2nd cycle I'd up the test to 500mgs (whichever ester you choose) and throw in an anabolic like eq or deca @ 400mgs.

-wolfman
Yes he will get comparable gains between sust and enant if he shoots EOD on the sust.....the whole idea most of us here are trying to tell ya Alpha is sust needs to be injected more than once a week bro.
 
Alpha the main point is sus needs to be injected EOD!!!
What most people do is, One Amp EOD.
Otherwise the blood levels of the test are up and down all week, and you will not get the max results.

For A newbie that is a lot of Test. This is why if your only going to use 500mg per. week, a longer acting ester like Enanthate or cyponate can be injected twice a week (say mon, and thurs.)

Keep us posted on what you decide and, how your gains are going.
GB
 
graybass....how do you feel about running 500-600mg of sust...maybe running 150-200mg eod.....I have some msl ultra sust i was gonna throw in the beginning of my tren cycle to take advantage of some of the quick esters...good idea?
 
lamb88ert said:
graybass....how do you feel about running 500-600mg of sust...maybe running 150-200mg eod.....I have some msl ultra sust i was gonna throw in the beginning of my tren cycle to take advantage of some of the quick esters...good idea?
Any amount is a good idea bro , as long as it's EOD with the sust.
 
and with the TEST ENT you could actually get away with doing a 500mg/week dose all in one shot everyweek and still get the same results instead of doing it in 2 shots everyweek.
 
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