A Large Caution Regarding Highly Dosed Gear!

Wouldnt mention GSO in the same sentence as super solvents...
No I was referring to carrier oil, just like mig840, MCT,there are some people that can’t handle GSO. And was asking the question is they use eo in there products I know eo is pretty smooth but some people react bad to it
 
The reason i never asked what was in the testosterone enanthate 500 is because I've used so much Pharmacom gear that i assumed i was good with it all. I usually place at least 2-3 £500+ orders every year and have done so for multiple years.

I've had their test c, deca, primo, prop and even the sust 500 from them.

I found the sust 500 to be for the most part painless.

All i can think of is either they use some unique solvent in the Testosterone enanthate 500 compared to most other vials or i received a fucked up vial. I don't know.

The hospital for the most part was very confused at the beginning.

As my bloods was showing severe inflammation, vitals was showing high blood pressure and relatively high tachycardia. All with no real sign of infection.

White blood cells was slightly elevated but imo they was normal for the dosage of testosterone i was taking.

So all we can really say for sure is that something involving this vial of testosterone enanthate 500 caused severe inflammation.

The doctors put it down to a severe systemic reaction.

They do want to do an ultrasound to make sure no abscess is present. But apparently its highly unlikely. Unlikely enough for them to allow me to eat as they aren't expecting surgery.

Still can't leave until the ultrasound has been done and passed.
 
Is everyone missing the point?

It isn’t about the dosage of the test. It’s the concentration. He had a severe reaction to, most likely, the INSANE solvent use to dissolve 500mg/ml of test resulting in some shock on a systemic level.

I 100% don’t understand the attraction of high dose gear....especially if you aren’t pinning grams on grams.

You would have thought this was a discussion about Chinese arithmetic at first...

Well then dude should had been a bit more specific when talking about high doses gear. He could had come out and said high concentrations of solvents instead of making all of us arm chair Dr wade through the tea leaves. It could be possible this would happen using 300mg/ml gear brewed incorrectly or someone sensitive to that particular solvent to cause a reaction?
 
Well then dude should had been a bit more specific when talking about high doses gear. He could had come out and said high concentrations of solvents instead of making all of us arm chair Dr wade through the tea leaves. It could be possible this would happen using 300mg/ml gear brewed incorrectly or someone sensitive to that particular solvent to cause a reaction?

The first sentence of his post says 500mg/ml... I literally needed to read nothing else to know what the issue was.
 
What throws me off is the 9 weeks prior of pinning the same amount of the same compound from the same vial with no issues. 9 weeks. Unless Im totalling missing something.

I see where you're coming from but generally speaking if you are admitted inpatient in the ER with every cardiac symptom under the sun, you can be sure they are looking for every possible thing that can kill you in the next 24 hours. If they say it's a reaction to solvent, you generally don't get confident answers like that unless they are VERY certain.
 
The first sentence of his post says 500mg/ml... I literally needed to read nothing else to know what the issue was.

I guess what I’m saying is that this could happen with 300mg/ml gear brewed by a rookie friend etc. I don’t know how many people pin 500mg/ml gear but I assume it’s not a small number and yet you don’t see anyone else chiming in here with the same issues.

I mean shit this could had happen if he was pinning the same site over and over. An allergic reaction is just that.
 
I guess what I’m saying is that this could happen with 300mg/ml gear brewed by a rookie friend etc. I don’t know how many people pin 500mg/ml gear but I assume it’s not a small number and yet you don’t see anyone else chiming in here with the same issues.

I mean shit this could had happen if he was pinning the same site over and over. An allergic reaction is just that.
It absolutely could’ve. But 500mg/ml is guaranteed to be stuffed full of super solvents and IMO is going to be a bad time for 99% of users. It’s foolish to even brew it.
 
Got the brew recipie from my source. I had issues with 400mg test used their 300mg and no problems. The solvents used in their 400mg is actually less than some other compounds I run with no issue so in my case it’s not the amount of solvents, it’s the concentration of test that was causing the problem. So the OP concerns about concentration and not just solvents is valid, at least from my additional data point.
 
It absolutely could’ve. But 500mg/ml is guaranteed to be stuffed full of super solvents and IMO is going to be a bad time for 99% of users. It’s foolish to even brew it.

Wtf is super solvent. I mean the name alone would keep me away. Dissolving my insides.
 
On the very first injection i had severe pip and strong pain when bending leg after injection. Just thought it was due to the high concentration and thought i would just pull through it.

What throws me off is the 9 weeks prior of pinning the same amount of the same compound from the same vial with no issues. 9 weeks. Unless Im totalling missing something.

Well.. - - > "On the very first injection i had severe pip and strong pain"

And that he should have stopped immediately after the bad reaction but continued for 9 more weeks. Smh.
 
It’s just confusing to me that OP said he ran the same labs 500 mg/ml sust and had “no issues “. I would assume the same solvents would be in both the testE and the sust at 500 mg/ml. Maby goes back to guys having more pip and problems with testE then other esters?
 
It’s just confusing to me that OP said he ran the same labs 500 mg/ml sust and had “no issues “. I would assume the same solvents would be in both the testE and the sust at 500 mg/ml. Maby goes back to guys having more pip and problems with testE then other esters?
Whole thing is a bit of a mystery...from putting up with that pain for 9 weeks to using 500mg test for 200mg/week.
 
Whole thing is a bit of a mystery...from putting up with that pain for 9 weeks to using 500mg test for 200mg/week.

This whole thing has me confused. This isn't adding up, because I don't see how you can be fine for 9 weeks, then suddenly have an issue. I'd say that guaiacol or ethyl oleate could have been the problem, but if that were the case, why weren't they an issue from the start?

Was he injecting in the same spot every time? I don't get it.

The total amount of solvent that you'd end up injecting with 0.4ml of 500mg/ml wouldn't be much more than injecting 2ml of 250mg/ml, which people do all the time.

Something here is pear-shaped.
 
It absolutely could’ve. But 500mg/ml is guaranteed to be stuffed full of super solvents and IMO is going to be a bad time for 99% of users. It’s foolish to even brew it.

lol I bought 200mg/ml of npp once and it crashed multiple times in storage even after reheating. never again and didn’t even decide to inject it.
 
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