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MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
AAVANG (Lab tested source)
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And just an fyi your supplier is fucking you anyway thats way expensive.
You dont, you cant make even close to about 100 vials with 100$. you can make about 40 and thats assuming its all test p. Did you think everyone order all test p? You forgot about almost everything, just like you do when youre talking about this situation.
by the way, big lou said if any of the guys who were scammed show him proof, he'll give them his private info
Dude it crashed because i didnt use a simple fuck recipe, of 2% 20% like you do. Sorry for trying to do better, as you can see now it paid off and i have it perfected. No pip or crashing from anyone here.
Im waiting on them to come forward only one has so far and hell have his gear in a few days.
achilles87
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I don't buy raws man neither should you it looks like. The only one that forgets anything is you when asked questions. Am I the one that scammed anyone? No. Am I the source? No. So tell me how your going to make right by the guys waiting on gear and how your going to get tx his gear back he sent that you didn't?
Wow that's damn good and hope guys like TX will take him up on that
So there's your chance to come really squeaky clean, Xeno/AAVANG/Progressive Labs. Clean up the mess you made FAST and this then won't happen.
Superfly
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Vang, I'm going to run progressive labs out of business. With my new Lab, Geico Labs!!! Watch out!!!!![emoji1]Toodles! Nice knowing you, so you still going to be here posting as Progressive Labs I am sure
@MindlessWork Troll. Get out of here.Wow that's damn good and hope guys like TX will take him up on that
So there's your chance to come really squeaky clean, Xeno/AAVANG/Progressive Labs. Clean up the mess you made FAST and this then won't happen.
I'm said it a few times anyone who has an outstanding order can pm me, I've got one already because I offered it right away. I asked tx to pm me too.
I know you're just looking out for people and I always liked you but I really think if you look at this objectively you'll at least think that maybe it's a possibility I wasn't out to scam anyone.
It really doesn't add up. I had a good thing going with XENO, look how many people loved the gear, there was no reason for all this. No financial incentive at all. Tx said himself how many people he replaced it was only 4 or 5.
Those were the small handful of transactions I had picked up in the few days prior to everything going to shit. There was no need for me to scam anyone especially not on just a few orders. To me those orders combined were worth less than 100$. I would have made at least double that just staying open one more day? That's why I keep stressing that point, you might think I'm a liar but $$$ doesn't lie.
A couple weeks prior to that happening I sent out a few thousand dollars in gear all at once, you can easily confirm that through tx and arf posts, so why didn't i bail then? Why would i go for the small little shit scam just a week or so later that would mean nothing to me in terms of $$$. What was my motive if it wasn't money?
Why am I even here defending myself and sending out orders? Nothing makes sense if this was a scam, none of it. But whatever man believe what you want you had your mind made up from the start, I'm just asking you to think about it for a second with an open mind, that's all.
achilles87
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I'm not wasting my time anymore because you keep saying the same thing that don't add up to me or anyone else. The only thing I'm going to say is no, I took up for you, even when superfly posted what he did. Then you seen all that and still didn't have the balls to come to me and say look it is me, you tried to lie more and dodge all that about you being xeno. I knew you were a helpful guy and have told people that ask about you how helpful you were, but no you pulled this shit. Make it right don't make people come to you that's bs go to them, you know who they are and where they are so man up and go take care of it. Don't post that bs they can come pm me here, this ain't your home and a lot of them guys are new to this and don't even know about this forum.
achilles87
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Also 4 or 5 people is to many it should be zero people.
I agree, and not being a dick but dude i have to point out the fact you're not thinking this through again.
What do you think the first thing I did was when I dropped XENO? Emails deleted, subscription canceled and computer wiped. I even said I had done that earlier man.
I don't remember who they were, most people don't use the same handle as their email and even then that would be hard.
The only way I can get orders out is for them to come to me. I guess I can make a post on arf tomorrow under a new handle but that's the next best thing I can do. Maybe I'm naive but I figured they already all knew by now over there.
At 250mg/ml and in 10ml vials 100g of test will make 40 vials total
mkulltra58
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I see your point about it being only 4 or 5 orders. But that doesn't changed the fact that you hid being Xeno. You could have said in your intro post that some people may know you and to PM you for more info. Then you could have disclosed this info privately to protect yourself. Also, it looks real shady that you haven't even tried to make things right until after being outed, nevermind even contacting your own rep to keep him updated.
It's the same shit with Phurios, NoPhat and several others. It's all about how you handle shit that makes the difference between success and failure here. Look at how 24k handled the Masteron issue or Pharmacom deals with issues.
When you play games, hide shit, or just plain out fuck up, you need to own your shit and deal with it. That is what seperates the people making money vs. those that are out of business.
Btw, I personally don't believe you would have sent out bunk gear since I believe you really wanted to and needed to make it here. But that doesn't just excuse all the rest of the stuff.
Also, if you are trying to make a run as Progressive, I would give up on that now and just be honest. I know you have already avoided that question several times tonight but again it's time to man up. You should already know by now it will eventually come out if you are.
No offense meant by any of this. I'm just trying to articulate clearly what has already been said here.
It's the same shit with Phurios, NoPhat and several others. It's all about how you handle shit that makes the difference between success and failure here. Look at how 24k handled the Masteron issue or Pharmacom deals with issues.
When you play games, hide shit, or just plain out fuck up, you need to own your shit and deal with it. That is what seperates the people making money vs. those that are out of business.
Btw, I personally don't believe you would have sent out bunk gear since I believe you really wanted to and needed to make it here. But that doesn't just excuse all the rest of the stuff.
Also, if you are trying to make a run as Progressive, I would give up on that now and just be honest. I know you have already avoided that question several times tonight but again it's time to man up. You should already know by now it will eventually come out if you are.
No offense meant by any of this. I'm just trying to articulate clearly what has already been said here.
Bro...Just go back through your emails and receipts and reach out to these guys...refund them, AND send them their orders with sincerest apologies, plus do the same for Tx even though he won't deal with you anymore...its called "service recovery", and even though you may not be able to sell volume on this board again you'll at least have peace of mind....Guys here from what i'm reading don't seem to care much about the Lie, especially if giving you the benefit of the doubt LE was on your ass...its the cover-up and the back and forth over everything but restitution stemming from the lie...you shouldn't care about now much it takes to make test right now...you should care more about making it right...i say this not as an attack or as a stan,(full disclosure if have purchased gear form AAvang).... but as someone who has fucked up in business and knows that even though you may have lost the customer the one thing they can't call you is crooked, if your attempts at resolving are sincere...just something to consider
Well yeah the first thing you would have done was post it out on the forum, and I didnt quite feel safe yet to be connected with xeno and of course no one would believe my story so of course I didn't tell you, but I was still going to take care of it. I don't think a few months for caution is the worst thing in the world.
achilles87
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2.5 divided by 100 equals 40 correct.
achilles87
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I said i was done, but that's bull shit. If you came to me with that I wouldn't of posted it on an open forum sorry man.
I'm not progressive, I just didn't acknowledge it because it didn't matter. I don't even know who that is.
And you're right about what you said, but of course I was going to hide it I wasn't going to risk it getting out and have LE just start placing orders under Aavang instead. I feel fairly safe at this point since its been a few months and I'm willing to correct it now like I had planned since the names were already connected.
I am trying to resolve it like I said it cost me almost nothing to, I just honestly do not have the emails receipts anything. It was all deleted the day I dropped off on XENO.
Anyone who wants their order only needs to pm me. I have no way of getting it to them otherwise
