ADVICE FIRST TEST E, HCG, ARIMIDEX CYCLE

[Test_Subject]

And I'm also not a fan of using 18g needles for drawing since they are rough on stoppers and run the risk of a piece of rubber getting into the vial or syringe.

This has always confused me. Most of the gear I use is GSO, which is on the thicker side, and drawing with a 21g takes literally seconds.

Are people really that impatient that they can't wait three seconds?

 

[Nicorebel]

You probably plan to pin 2x per week, alternate left and right glute, no problem there. 23g x 1.5" worked for me at a bodyweight of 160lb.

I'd stick with 500mg/wk test. Good starting point, simple.

HCG dosing looks good but I'd double the duration, last HCG pin being 3 days before PCT starts. Insulin needles fine.

I'd run your AI as long as the HCG. As for dosing, idno, I only have experience with Aromasin.

PCT looks OK.

Good luck. My best advice for a beginner as you go through your cycle is, unless you're adjusting things because of negative side effects, just stick with your well thought out plan.

Thank you very much for your contribution.

Ok for the needle 23g, but I have read that needle 1.5'' is very long for a beginner, is better 1''. Confirm?

I increase the test dose to 500mg weekly.

HCG is recommended for 4 week, 6 week maximum.
Do I continue in the week 13-14 with HCGenerate?

You know you're short when you describe your height and include fractions of inches

ahah

a test cycle was too weak for me my first cycle to be honost. I had to throw in an oral. You will see great gains and feel great etc, but if youve run orals before you should throw one in there.

I have winstrol oral too. But I am worried about hair loss.
Do you think that I have to add winny for the last 4 week at 30mg ED?

 

[Zdzd929]

Thank you very much for your contribution.

Ok for the needle 23g, but I have read that needle 1.5'' is very long for a beginner, is better 1''. Confirm?

I increase the test dose to 500mg weekly.

HCG is recommended for 4 week, 6 week maximum.
Do I continue in the week 13-14 with HCGenerate?


ahah


I have winstrol oral too. But I am worried about hair loss.
Do you think that I have to add winny for the last 4 week at 30mg ED?

23gauge, 1.5" is good. I find that 1" isn't really long enough for glute/quads, they are thick muscles. If you were doing shoulders I'd say 1". You aren't gonna hit bone or anything with 1.5". Deeper you get it, less the PIP will be too

Edit: by thick, I mean like deep. Also 1.5" can be somewhat intimidating for first timer, but, to me, 1" feels the same as 1.5" it's the gauge of needle that makes difference

 

[lightmetal08]

Thank you very much for your contribution.

Ok for the needle 23g, but I have read that needle 1.5'' is very long for a beginner, is better 1''. Confirm?

I increase the test dose to 500mg weekly.

HCG is recommended for 4 week, 6 week maximum.
Do I continue in the week 13-14 with HCGenerate?


ahah


I have winstrol oral too. But I am worried about hair loss.
Do you think that I have to add winny for the last 4 week at 30mg ED?

1.5" seemed really long to me at first but it wasn't a problem. Half the time I had it buried to the hilt (not recommended) and I don't believe I ever hit bone.

Who recommends hcg for 6 weeks max and why? Desensitization? Not sure this has been verified.

As for HCGenerate, I have no experience with it, though I'd question the efficacy of any natural supplement.

 

[Test_Subject]

1.5" seemed really long to me at first but it wasn't a problem. Half the time I had it buried to the hilt (not recommended) and I don't believe I ever hit bone.

I use a 1" 23g for everything I rotate: delts, VG, glutes. Works just fine.

You don't need a long needle even for glute shots if you're reasonably lean.

 

[lightmetal08]

I use a 1" 23g for everything I rotate: delts, VG, glutes. Works just fine.

You don't need a long needle even for glute shots if you're reasonably lean.

I think next cycle I'm going to try delts, and you bet I'll be using 1".

 

[Test_Subject]

I think next cycle I'm going to try delts, and you bet I'll be using 1".

It sounds weird, but try to do your delt shots on days where you train shoulders. It helps with the PIP the next day, I find.

 

[lightmetal08]

It sounds weird, but try to do your delt shots on days where you train shoulders. It helps with the PIP the next day, I find.

Makes perfect sense really, bloodflow and all that.

 

[Test_Subject]

Makes perfect sense really, bloodflow and all that.

Exactly. Oh, and I noticed that I said 23g 1". I actually use 25g 1".

Hadn't finished my coffee ;p

 

[lightmetal08]

Exactly. Oh, and I noticed that I said 23g 1". I actually use 25g 1".

Hadn't finished my coffee ;p

Dude no way, that'd take like 8 seconds to draw who's got that kinda time.
I hook a garden hose up to my barrel for drawing.

 

[Test_Subject]

Dude no way, that'd take like 8 seconds to draw who's got that kinda time.
I hook a garden hose up to my barrel for drawing.

No no, to inject. 21g to draw.

 

[lightmetal08]

No no, to inject. 21g to draw.

I use the 23 for both and it seems fine, but the delt might take that 23 a little tougher.

 

[Test_Subject]

I use the 23 for both and it seems fine, but the delt might take that 23 a little tougher.

It's personal preference, really. Both will work, I just use a 25g because it leaves less of a wound. There's nothing wrong with using a 23g at all.

 

[Nicorebel]

1.5" seemed really long to me at first but it wasn't a problem. Half the time I had it buried to the hilt (not recommended) and I don't believe I ever hit bone.

Who recommends hcg for 6 weeks max and why? Desensitization? Not sure this has been verified.

As for HCGenerate, I have no experience with it, though I'd question the efficacy of any natural supplement.

I am confused about hcg. There are many way to use ( during cycle, pct) and there are many time to start with it ( from day 1, last 4 week).
I am afraid for desensitization of my balls.
What's the best way to use HCG for your experience?