Advice needed - Body fat loss...

[boomer77]

I'd like some advice regarding body fat loss. Here's my story:

I'm 28 years old and weight 195+/- pounds. A little more than a year ago, I lost approximately 50 pounds over roughly a nine month period on the Body for Life diet (I know, I know - but the diet/exercise plan worked for me). I've kept the weight off pretty well, but put back on 10 pounds or so during the holidays and haven't really gotten back on the diet hardcore to lose it. (I'm a far, far cry from the 235-240 I was this time a year ago, however.) In addition to that 10 pounds, there was a small "orbit" of fat around my waistline and some other areas of my upper body that I never was fully able to lose even when I got to my lowest point. (Unfortunately, genetics didn't deal me the best hand in the bodyfat arena - I'm very lean in my lower body, but carry a little more bodyfat than the average person in the upper body which was made worse by five or six years of being a total fatass.)

I'm not opposed to putting the time in the gym or at the table to acheive my goal - I eat relatively healthy now (six days a week I eat well and allow myself one day a week to eat whatever the heck I want) and I work out six days a week (three days of weights, three days of cardio). I don't use any "recreational" drugs and have developed pretty strong "will power," and am willing to stick to a pretty stringent diet/exercise/supplementation plan.

My goal is to shed 10-15 pounds, and, more importantly, as much body fat as possible. Now, I know that (short of a surgical procedure) I may never fully lose that little bit of fat around my lower abs/waistline, but I'd like to give it my best shot ... and that's where you guys come in. I would like to get your advice on a solid, 6-10 week "cycle" to best help me acheive my goal. I've read about DNP and it appears to fall most closely in line with my goals at least on the surface, but am open to taking most anything (Clen, Winstrol, etc. etc. etc.) if there is a better fat burning "enabler" out there.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

 

[Bob Smith]

First, DNP isnt something to play with and I wouldnt recommend it as anyones 1st choice for thermogenics.

Second, if you want a thermo, start with an ephedrine based product or clen.

Third, if BFL worked for you in the past, it can work for you again. Its not the best program out there, but its easy to follow and hits all the bases. The cardio portion of it is probably its best attribute.

Fourth, guys typically can have very lean legs and still have a little gut. Youre not abnormal in that regard.

Fifth, AAS isnt going to burn the fat for you. It will simply allow you to preserve or add some muscle while you are dieting.

Lastly, I would say to get your eating and training under control before even considering AAS.

 

[joe shmoe]

the only thing you'd "need" right now is a good ECA. you need to change your routine a bit too. that alone will usually help someone drop the fat.

what does your cardio look like? what time do you do it? what kind? how long? same goes for the diet. what do you eat?

you dont need DNP...its on the dangerous side and unless you've done alot of homework on it, i wouldnt go near it. plus, the sides are a bitch.

have a nice day

 

[Scorpius_Ogre]

There is no "Magic Pill", just get off your ass and do more cardio, clean up your diet, meaning... low carbs, good carbs... high protein... and lots of excercise.

Its as simple as that.... Don't even think about using DNP to "shed 10 or 15 pounds"

If you want to lose 10-15 pounds do this for 6 weeks:

1.) Do a minimum of 30 minutes high intensity per day.
2.) Reduce your carb intake.
3.) Increase your protein intake.

If you want a metabolism boost use ephedra or clen.

If you follow these directions its impossible NOT to lose weight if your overweight.

-Ogre

 

[joeycrabcakes]

sounds corny, but the south beach diet worked wonders for me. Basically no carbs, no fat, and no sugars. saw weight loss from the mid section quickly. Problem was, didnt have much energy, kinda felt lethargic, not good for hitting the weights when on this diet. Also, was always hungry at first, but got used to it.

 

[Bob Smith]

sounds corny, but the south beach diet worked wonders for me. Basically no carbs, no fat, and no sugars. saw weight loss from the mid section quickly. Problem was, didnt have much energy, kinda felt lethargic, not good for hitting the weights when on this diet. Also, was always hungry at first, but got used to it.

Well if that doesnt sound like a testimonial, I dont know what is!

 

[boomer77]

the only thing you'd "need" right now is a good ECA. you need to change your routine a bit too. that alone will usually help someone drop the fat.

what does your cardio look like? what time do you do it? what kind? how long? same goes for the diet. what do you eat?

you dont need DNP...its on the dangerous side and unless you've done alot of homework on it, i wouldnt go near it. plus, the sides are a bitch.

have a nice day

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joe,

thanks for the advice. i do cardio three times a week, first thing in the morning (like 5 am, typically) for an hour. i get on the treadmill, set the incline at 15% (max), begin at like 4.2 mph for five minutes to get my heartrate up and then throttle down to either 3.8 or 4 mph and settle in for a 55 minute walk.

as far as eating, i try to eat a pretty balanced diet - approximately 1600-1800 calories a day during the week divided approximately 50% carbs, 35% protein and 15% fat. on saturday, i eat a ton - prolly 5,000 calories or more consisting of whatever i feel like that day.

can you provide some more details on a good ECA?

thanks!

 

[boomer77]

There is no "Magic Pill", just get off your ass and do more cardio, clean up your diet, meaning... low carbs, good carbs... high protein... and lots of excercise.

Its as simple as that.... Don't even think about using DNP to "shed 10 or 15 pounds"

If you want to lose 10-15 pounds do this for 6 weeks:

1.) Do a minimum of 30 minutes high intensity per day.
2.) Reduce your carb intake.
3.) Increase your protein intake.

If you want a metabolism boost use ephedra or clen.

If you follow these directions its impossible NOT to lose weight if your overweight.

-Ogre

thanks Scorpius. any more details on taking clen or an ephedra product to give my metabolism a kickstart? it certainly could use it.

 

[crewboss]

thanks Scorpius. any more details on taking clen or an ephedra product to give my metabolism a kickstart? it certainly could use it.

if you are looking into ECA i recommend stocking up soon, as it will be off all shelves completely in a couple weeks.

i agree with these guys, sounds like you are a couple small changes away from buring that 15 lbs anyway. i've found 2 things make a big difference:

1. cardio in the morning before anything. i burn fat much more efficiently when i run a few miles in the morning as opposed to at mid day or early evening.

2. lower carbs/earlier carbs. when you think your carbs are low drop them a notch more and up protein, and eat the carbs even earlier in the day.

good luck

 

[eleven11]

sounds corny, but the south beach diet worked wonders for me. Basically no carbs, no fat, and no sugars. saw weight loss from the mid section quickly. Problem was, didnt have much energy, kinda felt lethargic, not good for hitting the weights when on this diet. Also, was always hungry at first, but got used to it.

You felt thay way because your body can't function properly without carbs. and these diets are just a quick fix and you are doomed to fail.
As long as you eat clean and keep your carb intake moderate and make sure there are complex carbs not simple carbs. I keep mt diet in the 40-40-20 range. I will decrease my carbs slightly over a period of time when I'm trying to get cut, I would never let it fall under 100 gr per day unless it's the last couple days before a contest but I don't compete so that doesn't matter. anyway the reason you felt that way was because your brain needs carbs to function properly ( 60 gr min per day ) If you do this type of diets keep them short to get some quick weight off then get on a more realistic long term diet.......11

 

[joe shmoe]

originally posted by boomer77
as far as eating, i try to eat a pretty balanced diet - approximately 1600-1800 calories a day during the week divided approximately 50% carbs, 35% protein and 15% fat. on saturday, i eat a ton - prolly 5,000 calories or more consisting of whatever i feel like that day.

well theres a problem right there. too high on the carbs. i'm not going to get into the math, but i would keep them below 100 grams/day. increase your protein.

as was said above, make sure the carbs you do eat are complex carbs, not simple carbs.

for an ECA stack, you can go to GNC, vitamin shop, or anywhere on-line and get something like "ripped fuel" or something along those lines. hydroxy-cuts, xenadrine. while it doesnt have ephedra in it, its still basically considered an ECA stack.

have a nice day

 

[Bob Smith]

You felt thay way because your body can't function properly without carbs. and these diets are just a quick fix and you are doomed to fail.
As long as you eat clean and keep your carb intake moderate and make sure there are complex carbs not simple carbs. I keep mt diet in the 40-40-20 range. I will decrease my carbs slightly over a period of time when I'm trying to get cut, I would never let it fall under 100 gr per day unless it's the last couple days before a contest but I don't compete so that doesn't matter. anyway the reason you felt that way was because your brain needs carbs to function properly ( 60 gr min per day ) If you do this type of diets keep them short to get some quick weight off then get on a more realistic long term diet.......11

Standard low carb diets, like Atkins and South Beach, are great for the general population but do not allow for adjustments for athletes/lifters. Once some adjustments are made, then the diets are great and work very well for most people.

 

[j-hawk]

my favorite

originally posted by boomer77
as far as eating, i try to eat a pretty balanced diet - approximately 1600-1800 calories a day during the week divided approximately 50% carbs, 35% protein and 15% fat. on saturday, i eat a ton - prolly 5,000 calories or more consisting of whatever i feel like that day.

well theres a problem right there. too high on the carbs. i'm not going to get into the math, but i would keep them below 100 grams/day. increase your protein.

as was said above, make sure the carbs you do eat are complex carbs, not simple carbs.

for an ECA stack, you can go to GNC, vitamin shop, or anywhere on-line and get something like "ripped fuel" or something along those lines. hydroxy-cuts, xenadrine. while it doesnt have ephedra in it, its still basically considered an ECA stack.

have a nice day

My favorite ECA is Stacker II with ephedra, don't get those ephedra free pills, waste i think. Stacker II is good because you only need one. Good luck, I'm in the same boat you are. When I came off a bulking cycle I crashed hard and didn't work out and like shit for a good 2 or 3 months and got drunk and depressed. Now I'm 235 from 200 and BF is out of control. So its up the cardio, back on the diet, ... oh who am I kidding, I'm gettin DNP!!!!

 

[eleven11]

Standard low carb diets, like Atkins and South Beach, are great for the general population but do not allow for adjustments for athletes/lifters. Once some adjustments are made, then the diets are great and work very well for most people.

When you say adjustments do you mean low carbs that are more realistic? I've read that you do lower carb diets but how low do you go and still have energy to lift and grow? When I do start lowering my carbs it's slowly over a period of time. I'll lower my total cal. intake for the day by 200cal in carbs only about every to weeks, over a 12 wk period, once I start getting into the lower carb range (under 175g per day )then I'll have a carb loading day once a week usually Sat. I'll increase my carbs about 500cals that day, that seems to help to keep the muscles full looking......11