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If you really wanna do accurate testing, do blood work on serostim and greenway.
Yes that’s the plan . Doing blood work this week on the serostim I been running 5 weeks .
Then start greenway for a few weeks and test them . Not sure if this is an issue but going to start a test p and tren a 8 week cycle . Not sure if that will affect results of testing ?
 
I can’t recall if yours were from greenway ?
I recall someone getting bloods from greenway. I plan on getting bloods this week from the seros . How long should I run the greenway before testing ?
Yes greenway, got a 456 on my labs, @Roco Bama you could be correct, I’m really not the most knowledgeable about this stuff, like I said that’s just what I was told. It was from a fairly respected member here so I figured it to be good information.
 
Yes that’s the plan . Doing blood work this week on the serostim I been running 5 weeks .
Then start greenway for a few weeks and test them . Not sure if this is an issue but going to start a test p and tren a 8 week cycle . Not sure if that will affect results of testing ?
Yes that cycle can have a negative impact on IGF levels. your blood work should be done before it. IGF levels reach peak in less than a week so you don't have to wait too long to do pull bloods.
 
I've also "heard" that tren may impact igf-1, BUT not negatively.
I've read some studies that seem to suggest that, but I don't recall if there was a quantitative raise mentioned.

Im really not too concerned at the moment in my igf testing, as all of them thus far have been while "on"

It would be interesting to do another igf test while off and compare results.

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I've also "heard" that tren may impact igf-1, BUT not negatively.
I've read some studies that seem to suggest that, but I don't recall if there was a quantitative raise mentioned.

Im really not too concerned at the moment in my igf testing, as all of them thus far have been while "on"

It would be interesting to do another igf test while off and compare results.

D10
What was your IGF results if you did it already ?
 
And let me clarify my post from this afternoon.
The studies I referred to weren't done on humans. They were done on rats or mice, I don't recall exactly.
So obviously data from rats to humans can't be correlated as fact, too many variables. But until we have some studies done on humans using trenbalone (unlikely) rat data is all we have unfortunately.


Now other compounds, specifically some serms, have been shown to reduce igf-1.

My last bloods drawn on my mk-677 run support that.
Towards the end of that cycle my poor nips were on a rampage so I started raloxifine, my igf went down, so did my nips..... Coincidence???
Take it however you like.


Baseline igf-1 217
Mid run igf-1 387
End of run igf-1 336

D10
 
And let me clarify my post from this afternoon.
The studies I referred to weren't done on humans. They were done on rats or mice, I don't recall exactly.
So obviously data from rats to humans can't be correlated as fact, too many variables. But until we have some studies done on humans using trenbalone (unlikely) rat data is all we have unfortunately.


Now other compounds, specifically some serms, have been shown to reduce igf-1.

My last bloods drawn on my mk-677 run support that.
Towards the end of that cycle my poor nips were on a rampage so I started raloxifine, my igf went down, so did my nips..... Coincidence???
Take it however you like.


Baseline igf-1 217
Mid run igf-1 387
End of run igf-1 336

D10
The liver needs a certain amount of estrogen in able to produce IGF1. When you take a SERM, it blocks all the receptor sites at that location in able for estrogen to bind to the liver ; therefore, lowering igf output. SERM no doubt 100% lower igf-1 scores

Tren, in fact increase estrogenic activity so in fact can actually help aid igf-1 levels , not lower them.

Personally, tren has never affected my scores so I’m not really sure why people are experiencing this, maybe due to other factors.
 
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