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Roco Bama
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Getting low IGF score from HGH tend to happen when people are running a cycle/blast. other than that, IGF test is still a reliable way to test HGH.
Give it a shot, like you said, its a very reasonable test. But I remember when buck went through it at pro muscle, I don't think there was a linear relationship. He blamed it on his cycle, but who knows
I've heard that, but I don't think there's a way to correlate it, and most people around here are running gear at the same time anyways
Roco Bama
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I wouldn't assume the HGH is underdosed. some meso members like @Jeffg353, @DickySmalls, @Rockclimber and few others were getting back poor IGF results when they were on a blast even though their HGH was legit
Diesel10
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I gotta do something with it anyway.
My current dosing is pretty much my baseline but my midsection feels like a pincushion. Lol
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My current dosing is pretty much my baseline but my midsection feels like a pincushion. Lol
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Diesel10
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Roco Bama
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most of them were taking blacktops and @Jeffg353 was taking ansomone and did numerous IGF blood test including blacktops and ansomone and they all came back legit except that his IGF level started decreasing right after he started running a blast. He tested his IGF level 3 times when he was on a blast.
Diesel10
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Interesting
Their blood tests here on meso?
Or thread link please, I'd love to read up on their experience.
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Their blood tests here on meso?
Or thread link please, I'd love to read up on their experience.
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Rockclimber
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I've experienced it twice, once with legitimate tested growth hormone and once with my current supplier. Both times my igf was in the 200s even running 5 + international units. I don't know if I'm not a responder or what the deal is but I can feel it working and my fat is melting off so I guess igf just does not work for me.
Diesel10
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Diesel10
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I guess the thing I have a hard time believing is that anyone on cycle has low igf from there hgh?!!
What about pro body builders.
And who takes hgh and doesn't run aas besides aids patients. Haha
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What about pro body builders.
And who takes hgh and doesn't run aas besides aids patients. Haha
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Rockclimber
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Both on cycle Unfortunately. I was just off cycle for 2 months but I was in Italy so I was also off GH. I was afraid to fly with it because it was many many vials and syringes. Not worth it
Diesel10
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Ok so I just read that whole thread that was linked. Thanks @rpbb
I absolutely appreciate the effort that @Jeffg353 put into the testing.
So NOT bashing here, but help me understand.
Most his igf tests were on cycle and had significant increase over baseline.
His igf baseline was off cycle.
He got back on cycle and hgh and pulled an igf of 350 all on same dosing.
Yes his igf seemed to decrease, but he was using a different kit for each test if I understood correctly. If his igf decreased while running same kit or same kits (batch) during same cycle that would be more significant IMO
Again I have no intention of trying to discredit his efforts, I applaud them actually.
But I just can't see the argument that being on cycle will lower igf scores from his testing.
Jeff's highest igf numbers were on cycle.
Very much inconclusive in my eyes.
If I've overlooked some aspect in his tests please point them out.
Respectfully
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I absolutely appreciate the effort that @Jeffg353 put into the testing.
So NOT bashing here, but help me understand.
Most his igf tests were on cycle and had significant increase over baseline.
His igf baseline was off cycle.
He got back on cycle and hgh and pulled an igf of 350 all on same dosing.
Yes his igf seemed to decrease, but he was using a different kit for each test if I understood correctly. If his igf decreased while running same kit or same kits (batch) during same cycle that would be more significant IMO
Again I have no intention of trying to discredit his efforts, I applaud them actually.
But I just can't see the argument that being on cycle will lower igf scores from his testing.
Jeff's highest igf numbers were on cycle.
Very much inconclusive in my eyes.
If I've overlooked some aspect in his tests please point them out.
Respectfully
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It was very similar to what happened to Buck at pro muscle.
Roco Bama
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It's a good idea to not travel with HGH if you don't have a prescription for it. can you do IGF bloods this time once you get back to the state so we can determine wether its your body or the cycle that's responsible for the low IGF score.
It normally takes 5 days for IGF levels to stabilized so you can pull bloods a week after you get back on it.
And I never felt it had anything to do with being on cycle either, and don't think anyone else ever figured out why some people don't get elevated igf levels on what they think is good or reasonably dosed hgh. It's the one thing that has always made me wary of generic hgh, the lack of hplc testing, as I believe bloodwork is very inaccurate. Was hoping we had the problem licked when we had analyzer doing the testing.
Diesel10
Member
Well I guess I'll double my dose and retest. If it remains close to baseline I might have to eat my words. 
But the lack of analytical testing is very discouraging for sure.
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But the lack of analytical testing is very discouraging for sure.
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